No Choke!

[PAFC2004]

Who cares if the eagles were favourites? You had an outstanding season, and it amounted to nothing. If that's not a choke, Port Adelaide have never choked.

 

[Redlegs14]

Because they lost a game that their opposition were outright favorites to win?

Let me explain something to you about favouritism.WC were favourites before the game.That much is true.Adelaide were 4 goals up at half time,kicking with a 3 goal breeze in the 3rd quarter.Therefore,at half time,we were favourites.Being favourites at half time takes precedence over being favourites at the start of the game.This cannot be denied.Plus we had a weeks break and were playing at home.Take nothing away from WC,they were magnificent,but we choked.Why do you care anyway?Now get over it and stop crying.

 

[Lightning_Rod]

one thing with all of this, people seem to think we have lost a home prelim, we havent ever lost a home prelim final ever. crows did. in 2001 we played the hawks at home in a semi, 2002 we played brisbane at the gabba and 2003 we played the woods at the g

 

[PAFC2004]

Redlegs14 has put it perfectly.

 

[Greatness23]

You were piss poor on saturday as well.

So you're not even backing yourself up now? I win.
And as piss poor as we were on saturday, the Eagles were that much better.

 

[afc9798]

no excuses.if you keep up all this crap about being underdogs in matches, and taking that as a go-pass, then you should seriously start rebuilding. a premiership winning team should be able to beat anyone at anytime, not matter the lead up. ricciuto, edwards, clarke, goodwin, mcleod are the whole reason you are successful at the moment. and they are basically gone at end of next season.

what you gonna do if you fail again next year? try again for another and fall short like we did in '05? doubt it. if you fail again next year after an awesome home and away season, neil craig is going to be put on the block

It's a fair point, but how do you explain that Sydney won last year after losing the QF and West Coast made it this year after losing the QF. According to you they should have been able to win anywhere against anyone and if they can't, then you can't be a contender.

 

[Redlegs14]

FFS guys,Port supporters have accepted they choked in 2001(somewhat debatable),2002 & 2003.Why the f*** can't you just accept we have as well.You guys better hope we win the premiership next year,especially if we finish in the top 2,otherwise our record will be even worse and if you think it's bad this year,wait till next year.But I guess you'll just make up even lamer excuses next year to convince yourselves that it's not a choke.F***ing accept it and get on with life.

 

[The Floodbuster]

So you're not even backing yourself up now? I win.
And as piss poor as we were on saturday, the Eagles were that much better.

Yes you win if it pumps up that little ego of yours.

Camry Chokers

 

[Greatness23]

Let me explain something to you about favouritism.WC were favourites before the game.That much is true.Adelaide were 4 goals up at half time,kicking with a 3 goal breeze in the 3rd quarter.Therefore,at half time,we were favourites.Being favourites at half time takes precedence over being favourites at the start of the game.This cannot be denied.Plus we had a weeks break and were playing at home.Take nothing away from WC,they were magnificent,but we choked.Why do you care anyway?Now get over it and stop crying.

Everybody knows that the way the game is played these days, 3-4 goal margins are not big leads at all and can be lost in an instant. Just look at our last few minutes, WC were up up by 3 goals and we got to within a goal, oooh West Coast must have 'choked' in those last few minutes then. Come on man. We played good for one half, West Coast played better for one half.
West Coast WERE magnificant, it was hardly a choke.
If we had lost to Freo that could've been a choke, but we didn't. IMO no team that makes a prelim can be considered chokers unless they have only lost like 1 game for the year and lose the prelim.
If we dominate next year and finish top 2, then lose in the first round, clearly a choke.

 

[relapse]

Eagles were ranked 3rd and the Crows first, Crows had a weeks rest and home ground advantage. How dumb are you?
It sounds as dumb as when we smashed you guys in Rd 21 this year and your supporters were goingaround afterwards saying that you lost because we were the favourites. You are a bloody Idiot.

Actually West Coast finished first at the end of the minor round

You say people are dumb, but you use the term smashed about the last showdown, that wasnt a smashing you idiot. We smashed em yeah we won by a couple of goals real smashing there IDIOT.

 

[MarkT]

No injury Excuses?

Francou and Primus were two of the best playres going around but we did not have them in 03 and 04 champ.

I think Lade missed 01, and we have had many injuries problems in our finals campaigns. Get a clue mate.

You had them pre 03 and you won in 04. That about sums that excuse up IMO before you even worry about who replaced them. everyone gets some injuries. Port's problems were not about who wasn't there they were about who was there.

 

[The Floodbuster]

And the classy Port supporters come out to play. I hope you spend some time with Toots, he needs a special friend.

I never said it was sucked in about Trents injury. I actually felt for the young lad. Flowers from Matthew would of been sweet for Poor little Trent. As gruesome as the injury was it was one of the best tackles I have ever seen.

 

[PAFC2004]

Everybody knows that the way the game is played these days, 3-4 goal margins are not big leads at all and can be lost in an instant. Just look at our last few minutes, WC were up up by 3 goals and we got to within a goal, oooh West Coast must have 'choked' in those last few minutes then. Come on man. We played good for one half, West Coast played better for one half.
West Coast WERE magnificant, it was hardly a choke.

So we can claim that our opposition was brilliant in the games we lost. It astounds me that you think we choked, yet you didn't. You are fighting a losing battle.

 

[Total Power]

Let me explain something to you about favouritism.WC were favourites before the game.That much is true.Adelaide were 4 goals up at half time,kicking with a 3 goal breeze in the 3rd quarter.Therefore,at half time,we were favourites.Being favourites at half time takes precedence over being favourites at the start of the game.This cannot be denied.Plus we had a weeks break and were playing at home.Take nothing away from WC,they were magnificent,but we choked.Why do you care anyway?Now get over it and stop crying.

Amen brother.Finally a sensible crows fan.

 

[relapse]

Who cares if the eagles were favourites? You had an outstanding season, and it amounted to nothing. If that's not a choke, Port Adelaide have never choked.

That isnt what a choke is, a choke is losing a game that there is no reason that you should ever lose it. The points that are being raised are more straw clutching than anything else. You only had to look at the way Port played in those finals it spoke for itself. It didnt have anything to do with not making the GF.

I always saw it as the collingwood loss was bad but a learning experience, the loss against Sydney was inexcusable. Port were clearly the best team and finished 3 games clear on top of the table. The loss against Sydney was where the choker moniker came from.

I want someone to convince me that Port losing to an injury decimated Sydney in 2003 wasnt due to Port having stage fright. That was where the whole choke thing came from. I think the loss to St Kilda last season constituted more of the term choke than what it did this year.

As for people talking about what happens if Adelaide fails again next year. There is no chance IMO for Adelaide to even be in contention for a GF next season. The age of our side in comparision to the sides like WCE suggest that the Eagles still have a lot of upside while our side this season doesnt have any more upside so if we couldnt get the job done this year, time to regroup and try and build for another premiership assualt down the track.

 

[PAFC2004]

relapse, you obviously forget what our injuries were like over those years.

 

[The Floodbuster]

Actually West Coast finished first at the end of the minor round

You say people are dumb, but you use the term smashed about the last showdown, that wasnt a smashing you idiot. We smashed em yeah we won by a couple of goals real smashing there IDIOT.

You guys finished 1st last year at the end of the minor round, you were in exactly the same as West Coasts situation as last year, only this year it was reversed.
Yet the Crows lost both times, last years prelim wasn't a choke because it was away although you finished top???
This years is not a choke because although you won your first final and had a home prelim it wasn't because West Coast finished top???

IDIOT

 

[Lightning_Rod]

You guys finished 1st last year at the end of the minor round, you were in exactly the same as West Coasts situation as last year, only this year it was reversed.
Yet the Crows lost both times, last years prelim wasn't a choke because it was away although you finished top???
This years is not a choke because although you won your first final and had a home prelim it wasn't because West Coast finished top???

IDIOT

on top of this issue, we never lost a home prelim all our prelim loses were away from home.

 

[captain ebert]

LOL! Do you have selective memory or something?

2006 crows had a far superior % - the likes of which had not been seen for years.

last weekend, + previous finals defeats all amount to a choke, a wasted season. you still have not learnt from past mistakes despite every footy pundit out there believing you had done so, remember, adelaide were out right favourites for the flag.

so what happened? pressure of every south australian's expectation got to you guys on saturday & the weeks leading up?

chokers.

 

[BIG DADDY]

Adelaide should have been favourite....week off....2 key players back...home ground/crowd...WCE poor away finals record...windy conditions....

As favourites with a significant lead at half time....still fresh...wind behind...should have been GAME OVER...bring it on Swannies

Sorry boys but looks very much like a choke from where we sit (experienced chokers...according to you guys)

 

[Redlegs14]

Everybody knows that the way the game is played these days, 3-4 goal margins are not big leads at all and can be lost in an instant. Just look at our last few minutes, WC were up up by 3 goals and we got to within a goal, oooh West Coast must have 'choked' in those last few minutes then. Come on man. We played good for one half, West Coast played better for one half.
West Coast WERE magnificant, it was hardly a choke.
If we had lost to Freo that could've been a choke, but we didn't. IMO no team that makes a prelim can be considered chokers unless they have only lost like 1 game for the year and lose the prelim.
If we dominate next year and finish top 2, then lose in the first round, clearly a choke.

Oh come on man.We had the week off and we were playing at home.We should have run over the top of them.I'm not disagreeing that WC were magnificent,because they were,but our boys didn't step up when the game was on the line.That's called choking under finals pressure.You have lost this battle,so just retreat quietly into the background.I am a proud Crows supporter,and I always will be,but they let us down.They CHOKED!

 

[Greatness23]

So we can claim that our opposition was brilliant in the games we lost. It astounds me that you think we choked, yet you didn't. You are fighting a losing battle.

And you are showing complete ignorance. Port - 3 games, favorites and lost. Adelaide - 1 game, favorite and lost.

Do we have to go back into history and look at every team that ONCE went into a final as favorites and lost and call them chokers? Please.

Oh come on man.We had the week off and we were playing at home.We should have run over the top of them.I'm not disagreeing that WC were magnificent,because they were,but our boys didn't step up when the game was on the line.That's called choking under finals pressure.You have lost this battle,so just retreat quietly into the background.I am a proud Crows supporter,and I always will be,but they let us down.They CHOKED

Like I said, do we have to go back over history, look at every Prelim that a team lost that had the home ground advantage and call THEM chokers?
Geez looks like we have to call every single team that has ever lost a final 'chokers'.

 

[PAFC2004]

And you are showing complete ignorance. Port - 3 games, favorites and lost. Adelaide - 1 game, favorite and lost.

Do we have to go back into history and look at every team that ONCE went into a final as favorites and lost and call them chokers? Please.

Forget about favouritism. You were the standout team throughout the year.

 

[captain ebert]

reads like a choke to me:

"We have to play better in finals. Our record in the home and away series has been great but we haven't been able to win the couple of games we've needed to get into a Grand Final.

who said that?

 

[relapse]

Amen brother.Finally a sensible crows fan.

On a side note your sig isnt actually correct there are sides that have won more premierships in their respective competitions.