No deal for CHick

[USAEagle]

It was reported on the news today that the Eagles have refused to consider giving up COx or Gardiner for Chick.

Well done Eagles. Hawthorn will bend. They are losing CHick and will not want to lose him for nothing.

 

[Geonet]

It was reported on the news today that the Eagles have refused to consider giving up COx or Gardiner for Chick. Well done Eagles. Hawthorn will bend. They are losing CHick and will not want to lose him for nothing.

And now there is this ridiculous speculation in an article written by Caroline Wilson, that St. Kilda is eyeing Michael Gardiner in a so called "complicated swap", to replace Peter Everitt who is leaving the club. Why in the world would Gardiner leave a successful club like the Eagles to go to St. Kilda, the perpetual near the bottom of the ladder club ?

Read article here:

http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/articles/2002/09/25/1032734223543.html

 

[jod23]

Originally posted by USAEagle
It was reported on the news today that the Eagles have refused to consider giving up COx or Gardiner for Chick.

Well done Eagles. Hawthorn will bend. They are losing CHick and will not want to lose him for nothing.

Yep were playing hardball because we know we hold all the cards. Simple as that, funny how some Hawk supporters seem to believe that they are in the best position??

 

[Jabber]

Originally posted by Geonet


And now there is this ridiculous speculation in an article written by Caroline Wilson, that St. Kilda is eyeing Michael Gardiner in a so called "complicated swap", to replace Peter Everitt who is leaving the club. Why in the world would Gardiner leave a successful club like the Eagles to go to St. Kilda, the perpetual near the bottom of the ladder club ?

Read article here:

http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/articles/2002/09/25/1032734223543.html

Unfortunately I can see some credibility in this - Eagles would in all likelyhood end up with Chick & one of Hawthorn's ruckmen. St. Kilda would get Gardiner, & Hawthorn would get Everitt & a high draft pick.

Eagles Gain - Chick & either Campbell or Loats (would prefer Thompson)
Eagles Loss - Gardiner

St. Kilda Gain - Gardiner
St. Kilda Loss - Everitt & High draft pick (possibly no.1 depending on Carltons punishment)

Hawthorn Gain - Everitt & High draft pick (possibly no.1)
Hawthorn Loss - Chick & either Campbell or Loats

While I wouldn't like to see this happen, it is a trade that could work for everybody.

 

[Pessimistic]

If you guys don't want chick then why keep writing about him ?

As you can see there are other ruck options around.

In any case saw gardiner in action on BB&B on ch7 and he is a sycho. Makes everitt look like an oxford don. Keep him, goes well with the matera boys.

Perhaps Saints would see Loats as a better prospect than Gardiner.

 

[Jabber]

Originally posted by Pessimistic
If you guys don't want chick then why keep writing about him ?

As you can see there are other ruck options around.

In any case saw gardiner in action on BB&B on ch7 and he is a sycho. Makes everitt look like an oxford don. Keep him, goes well with the matera boys.

Perhaps Saints would see Loats as a better prospect than Gardiner.

"sycho" try psycho. I think you make Everitt look like an Oxford Don.

By all means St. Kilda take Loats.

 

[Pessimistic]

Originally posted by Jabber


"sycho" try psycho. I think you make Everitt look like an Oxford Don.

By all means St. Kilda take Loats.

or try (p)edantic , or (p)iss off

 

[Thrawn666]

Originally posted by Pessimistic
If you guys don't want chick then why keep writing about him ?

Oh make no mistake we want him, its just he isnt worth giving up one of our young ruckman for. Hawthorn is overestimating his worth, he wants to go, he will go or sit out a year, so the Hawks are the team with the rough end of the pineapple. We dont NEED him, but we do want him. Hawthorn can either deal or have a discontented player or no player at all.

 

[iceman]

Thats right - we do want him. We wanted him 2 years ago and we still want him now; its just we wont give up a player of Gardiners calibre for him

 

[Goldenblue]

Re: Re: No deal for CHick

Originally posted by jod23


Yep were playing hardball because we know we hold all the cards. Simple as that, funny how some Hawk supporters seem to believe that they are in the best position??

Yup.

Reading some of these other posters (babycakes ) simply dont have a clue when it comes to trading.

Give up Gardiner for Chick?

Gardiner is worth more than 2 Chicks.

Play hardball Hawthorn, you wont get Gardiner, you are simply dreaming.

 

[larrikin]

Originally posted by Jabber


Unfortunately I can see some credibility in this - Eagles would in all likelyhood end up with Chick & one of Hawthorn's ruckmen. St. Kilda would get Gardiner, & Hawthorn would get Everitt & a high draft pick.

Eagles Gain - Chick & either Campbell or Loats (would prefer Thompson)
Eagles Loss - Gardiner

St. Kilda Gain - Gardiner
St. Kilda Loss - Everitt & High draft pick (possibly no.1 depending on Carltons punishment)

Hawthorn Gain - Everitt & High draft pick (possibly no.1)
Hawthorn Loss - Chick & either Campbell or Loats

I'm a bit lost here. How do Hawthorn gain Everitt and the no 1 pick for a guy who wants to leave and a bloke who can't play?

Originally posted by Jabber

While I wouldn't like to see this happen, it is a trade that could work for everybody.

Looks like it works for Hawthorn and that's about it IMO.

 

[carlyp]

Originally posted by Jabber


Unfortunately I can see some credibility in this - Eagles would in all likelyhood end up with Chick & one of Hawthorn's ruckmen. St. Kilda would get Gardiner, & Hawthorn would get Everitt & a high draft pick.

Eagles Gain - Chick & either Campbell or Loats (would prefer Thompson)
Eagles Loss - Gardiner

St. Kilda Gain - Gardiner
St. Kilda Loss - Everitt & High draft pick (possibly no.1 depending on Carltons punishment)

Hawthorn Gain - Everitt & High draft pick (possibly no.1)
Hawthorn Loss - Chick & either Campbell or Loats

While I wouldn't like to see this happen, it is a trade that could work for everybody.

That aint going to happen Jabber! The Eagles will not let Gardiner or Cox go! Get it through your thick skull....GARDINER AND COX ARE STAYING PUT!

 

[Jabber]

Originally posted by carlyp


That aint going to happen Jabber! The Eagles will not let Gardiner or Cox go! Get it through your thick skull....GARDINER AND COX ARE STAYING PUT!

Ouch - Thick Skull.
Cmon Carly you know I'm all for keeping Gardiner, and Cox. I was the one blowing Cox's horn earlier when everyone wanted to trade him.

I was just throwing some idea's into the ring, based on Carolyn Wilsons garbage in the Age.

Hmmmm - maybe my skull is a bit thick though (don't need that helmet afterall)

 

[carlyp]

Originally posted by Jabber


Ouch - Thick Skull.
Cmon Carly you know I'm all for keeping Gardiner, and Cox. I was the one blowing Cox's horn earlier when everyone wanted to trade him.

I was just throwing some idea's into the ring, based on Carolyn Wilsons garbage in the Age.

Hmmmm - maybe my skull is a bit thick though (don't need that helmet afterall)

Ok Im sorry Jabber, its just whenever anyone talks about any of my boys being traded I get scared because I dont want them to go! I want them to sty with us!

 

[Jabber]

Originally posted by carlyp


Ok Im sorry Jabber, its just whenever anyone talks about any of my boys being traded I get scared because I dont want them to go! I want them to sty with us!

OK - your forgiven. Maybe you can rub some moisturizer into my thick bald skull to make up.

 

[Goldenblue]

Love that sig Carls

 

[carlyp]

Originally posted by Jabber


OK - your forgiven. Maybe you can rub some moisturizer into my thick bald skull to make up.

OK OK OK! If I must!

Thanks Gb! I love yours too!

 

[GoEagles]

We'd still like Chick - if it's for the right trade. The club has stated that Cox and Gardiner aren't going anywhere - so thats out.

As for choosing between Loats and Gardiner, I'd say Mark Seeby would be a better ruckman than Loats!

 

[Jabber]

Originally posted by GoEagles
We'd still like Chick - if it's for the right trade. The club has stated that Cox and Gardiner aren't going anywhere - so thats out.

As for choosing between Loats and Gardiner, I'd say Mark Seeby would be a better ruckman than Loats!

I've had a look at Loats profile and didn't realise he has been on the Hawks list since 1999. Only played 4 games and didn't even make the Box Hill Hawks Premiership side this year. He has good size, but based on his progress after 4 years you would think he isn't up to AFL level. Robert Campbell looks a more likely type.

I'd probably stick with Seaby though after looking more closely. 22nd pick in a quality draft obviously means the Eagles rate him highly. What size is he? - I can't find his profile on AFL.com.

 

[Voice of Reason]

Originally posted by Jabber
I'd probably stick with Seaby though after looking more closely. 22nd pick in a quality draft obviously means the Eagles rate him highly. What size is he? - I can't find his profile on AFL.com.

AFL.com is crap. You need to get down to a West Perth WAFL game. He's very tall but hasn't yet filled out physically. Good pace and has played seniors this year without obvious injury problems. I wouldn't expect AFL till the year after next though.

 

[Jabber]

Originally posted by Voice of Reason


AFL.com is crap. You need to get down to a West Perth WAFL game. He's very tall but hasn't yet filled out physically. Good pace and has played seniors this year without obvious injury problems. I wouldn't expect AFL till the year after next though.

- I know AFL.com is crap, but I'm in Melbourne and can't see him in the WAFL.

Very tall = 200cm+ ??

 

[Mr Q]

Originally posted by Voice of Reason


AFL.com is crap. You need to get down to a West Perth WAFL game. He's very tall but hasn't yet filled out physically. Good pace and has played seniors this year without obvious injury problems. I wouldn't expect AFL till the year after next though.

Saw a WAFL game with West Perth last weekend. Wasn't sure if there were any West Perth players out there though.

Sorry, couldn't resist

 

[larrikin]

Originally posted by Jabber


- I know AFL.com is crap, but I'm in Melbourne and can't see him in the WAFL.

Very tall = 200cm+ ??

He'd be aroundthe 200cm mark, very agile too. Not strong enough for AFL yet.

He looks a bit like Cox did when he first came into the side.

 

[Jabber]

Originally posted by larrikin

He'd be aroundthe 200cm mark, very agile too. Not strong enough for AFL yet.

He looks a bit like Cox did when he first came into the side.

Sounds promising

 

[Voice of Reason]

Originally posted by Mr Q

Saw a WAFL game with West Perth last weekend. Wasn't sure if there were any West Perth players out there though.

Sorry, couldn't resist

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