Do any schools force their kids to ignore the day entirely?Yeah look I am all for diversity, and if a class is going to make father's day cards at school I think that is a great thing. If a child doesn't have a father in their life, then by all means make a card for a step dad, mother, uncle, other special person. It's what most normal schools do.
It's about showing gratitude and respect for a positive adult male role model in your life.
Just ignoring it, because you have perhaps forgotten the value that positive role models pay in children's upbringing, is sad.
And we wonder why we are raising more and more incels / far right nutcase boys.
It's definitely more fair to assume that it's an issue of forgetting rather than an active attempt to diminish the value of a father to validate the mums who don't have the father of her children around.Just ignoring it, because you have perhaps forgotten the value that positive role models pay in children's upbringing, is sad.
Depends on the quality of the parent.There could be a resulting culture shift as the single mum life is validated over the two parent household.
People tend to think that someone saying it would be best having two parents in the home is an attack on those who don't, so they don't say it to protect someone from projecting their own feelings.
No doubt.Depends on the quality of the parent.
As I said in the OP four year olds wouldn't even know about Father's Day if their carers didn't tell them about it. Older kids might be aware of it but not get involved unless there was something organised by the school.Do any schools force their kids to ignore the day entirely?
I know a woman who has three kids to three separate dad’s, all her choice to be a single mum, I think at least one of the fathers doesn’t even know he’s a dad. Her eldest is 12 years old, never met his dad, and the word is he’s already reading the manosphere and identifying as an incel.No doubt.
Both boys and girls end up in bad cycles after growing up in broken homes and part of continuing that cycle is the glorification of single motherhood and the diminishing of the role of the other parent.
I don't think marriage is the reason children in those homes have better outcomes, the marriage itself is a symptom of the reason why.
I was talking about "glorifying single motherhood".Yes.
Boys learn how to treat women by watching how their father interact with their mother. Girls learn what to expect from men from how their father interacts with their mother.
Diminish the role of him and you create boys who don't have a measure of expectation against them for themselves or girls.
Once upon a time this was the decision, but increasingly women are choosing to have children without male presence because they have left it too long to find a partner, and the time horizons for fertility are rapidly approaching.Better to have a single parent family than a family with a dysfunctional relationship between cohabiting parents.
Do the stats back that up or is that another example of living your own way being the best way because yay you?I was talking about "glorifying single motherhood".
Ask any young single mum with no family support whether they feel "glorified".
Better to have a single parent family than a family with a dysfunctional relationship between cohabiting parents.
It's what my child psychologist friend says, so yay him. Then again, he also says parents overestimate their own day to day effect on their child's personality.Do the stats back that up or is that another example of living your own way being the best way because yay you?
Do you think there is a genetic reason that single mothers tend to have single mother children?It's what my child psychologist friend says, so yay him. Then again, he also says parents overestimate their own day to day effect on their child's personality.
Also, common sense.
And I'm happily married, we have two sons. So yay me.
If you said increasing education resources didn’t matter because a child’s ability to be educated essentially depends on his or her genetics you’d get strong disagreement from the same people who say fathers don’t matter because behaviour is ultimately mediated by genetics.If you can handball the agency to a higher level it absolves so much responsibility.
Works a treat.
These would be the same people who say that a child being exposed to trauma resulting in their violent actions, because they are predisposed to it due to their upbringing, don't deserve as long a prison sentence - as though their inability to choose their violent actions isn't more reason to protect society from them..If you said increasing education resources didn’t matter because a child’s ability to be educated essentially depends on his or her genetics you’d get strong disagreement from the same people who say fathers don’t matter because behaviour is ultimately mediated by genetics.
What did you give your father? Nothing. Me neither. It wasnt always a thingThe growing diversity in the forms that families take, and a lack of interest in the occasion from kids themselves, have seen it pass without a mention in many classes this year.
Apparently, at Annie Dennis Children’s Centre in Northcote that 'recognises the diversity in children’s family situations' they didn't celebrate Father’s Day this year because the kids simply weren’t interested.
Hold on, we are talking about four year olds. They only know about Father's Day because their carers tell them about it. They won't 'be interested' if the carer has the attitude
We don’t bring up Father’s Day because there are children with single and same-sex parents hereSome kids have two mums, some have no dad and some are from cultures where Father’s Day isn’t really a thing.
The Father's Day stall and gifts for Dad crafted by little hands are increasingly a thing of the past in Melbourne schools and kindergartens.www.theage.com.au
How about the majority of kids who do have a Dad? How about the kids who have two Dads? And why are we changing our culture to suit immigrants rather than them adapt to our ways?
As a Dad of three I've treasured every crappy present and card my kids have given me over the years. Probably up to six 'best Dad' mugs. I've got milk cartons with bits of paper and wools taped to them. I've kept every single card which is a historic record of their handwriting and increasing maturity.
Maybe the Age story was clickbait but fu** them if it was.