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Only if hospitals fill. If there is capacity, everyone should get access to medical facilities. But an unvaccinated, non-exempt person with coronavirus shouldn't get a bed if it means someone else misses out.What kind of society will we become if we decide not to give anti-vaxxers (as ignorant and misguided as they are) medical treatment if they contract Covid19.
That would almost make the medical industry monsters, deciding who gets to Iive and or possibly die because that said person was fearful and ignorant about getting the jab.
Read up on the Hippocratic Oath Folks.
Isn't this what triage is though?What kind of society will we become if we decide not to give anti-vaxxers (as ignorant and misguided as they are) medical treatment if they contract Covid19.
That would almost make the medical industry monsters, deciding who gets to Iive and or possibly die because that said person was fearful and ignorant about getting the jab.
Read up on the Hippocratic Oath Folks.
If you refuse to get the vax and then contract Covid, then why the feck should you be eligible to be treated in the public system which is funded by taxpayers money ??
Sorry, you can't have your cake and eat it too with this one.
A known and debunked lie, you and your fake account know nothing.I thought only the unvaccinated were at risk though?
the government taxes us for not having private health insurance, which is a ******* joke given how much of a scam it is sometimes and the access to the universal healthcare system. taxing people because they refused simple, free and instant preventitive treatment (ie vaccines) is entirely reasonable.I think the answer to this is either a yearly medicare tax you have to pay if you're not vaccinated or some sort of tax that applies every time you check into a non essential service if you're not vaccinated.
Similar to the tobacco and alcohol taxes we already have to help offset the drain on the health system that these choices create.
this. we cannot refuse people treatment, we are not bloody america. but we can tax them extra (like with private health insurance, tobacco, alcohol etc) to account for the additional risk and workload they put on the system.What kind of society will we become if we decide not to give anti-vaxxers (as ignorant and misguided as they are) medical treatment if they contract Covid19.
That would almost make the medical industry monsters, deciding who gets to Iive and or possibly die because that said person was fearful and ignorant about getting the jab.
Read up on the Hippocratic Oath Folks.
Only if hospitals fill. If there is capacity, everyone should get access to medical facilities. But an unvaccinated, non-exempt person with coronavirus shouldn't get a bed if it means someone else misses out.
Isn't this what triage is though?
Triaging is not a decision of who lives and who dies. It's who needs help the most.
What kind of society will we become if we decide not to give anti-vaxxers (as ignorant and misguided as they are) medical treatment if they contract Covid19.
That would almost make the medical industry monsters, deciding who gets to Iive and or possibly die because that said person was fearful and ignorant about getting the jab.
Read up on the Hippocratic Oath Folks.
Any truth to the rumour Eastern Wood retired due to the vaxx mandate? Heard from a pretty reliable source, but it wasn’t mentioned through the media.
Any truth to the rumour Eastern Wood retired due to the vaxx mandate? Heard from a pretty reliable source, but it wasn’t mentioned through the media.
I don't think the Hippocratic Oath holds much weight to be honest.
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The head of the Victorian AMA said the following today: Those do not believe Covid-19 is real or a threat should update their advanced care directives and inform their relatives that they do not wish to receive care in the public health system if diagnosed with the virus
Victoria AMA says Covid-deniers and anti-vaxxers should opt out of public health system and ‘let nature run its course’
Hospital system is already under pressure and will get worse as restrictions lift, state AMA president sayswww.theguardian.com
Quite rightly both the national AMA and the Victorian Government have pointed out this isn't going to happen - treatment will be provided regardless of belief or vaccination status. The AMA noted: “Doctors will always provide care to patients considering their right to make their own decisions, even bad ones like not getting #vacced,” and James Merlino: “I can understand the sentiment but that’s not the way we operate. We need to care for every single Victorian,” .
I get the frustration but the bottom line is people get treatment regardless of whatever stupid decision they've made.
Well, it is a reality. For example, two candidates for a liver transplant. Candiatate A) A fatty, drinks a dozen beers a night. Candidate B) Fit, healthy (except for a dodgy liver), eats well blah..... who do u think gets the liver hey?I don't agree with this personally. I'm a chubby man because I like food and I don't like exercise and I wouldn't want my medicare to be torn up because of choices I've made.
In saying that, if I go to a hospital and I'm in a waiting room, and some otherwise fit and healthy patient requires a bed, they should be entitled to it before I am because I've made my choices.
Actually, a great example to illustrate the pointHO relevant in functioning healthcare, however IF overrun (ie war) expect discrimination to apply. ie HO would imply Aus/Ger injured soldiers from 1 battle got = care via Aus Army medical in WWII, but not the practical reality given limited resources). This is the possible reality the AMA is trying to communicate.