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Yeah Tilt was a very good show i was hoping they would make season 2 but i heard there not going to

That's cause most poker fans and serious players didn't really like it. I can't comment on it as I haven't seen it myself, but that's what I hear from a number of people.
 

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regarding daytrippers post - interesting article - the bloke obviously knows how to play poker. I think his last play is terrible though, when someone check-raises you 9/10 they have you beat. you don't see many check raise bluffs online, it was should've been obvious he made set on the flop, and thats not even taking into account someone slow playing A's or K's. He a better player than me though but just my 2 cents.
 

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purple sneakers said:
regarding daytrippers post - interesting article - the bloke obviously knows how to play poker. I think his last play is terrible though, when someone check-raises you 9/10 they have you beat. you don't see many check raise bluffs online, it was should've been obvious he made set on the flop, and thats not even taking into account someone slow playing A's or K's. He a better player than me though but just my 2 cents.

ive been reading Justin's website for awhile for about 5 months now and he did it for a reason. The guy plays $200-$400 SnGs all day he knows what he is doing hehe :)

Yeah the play wasnt great but he probably had a read on his opponent or just made that one mistake. Who cares? he still earns more than i do a year in a week or two of playing.
 

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regarding daytrippers post - interesting article - the bloke obviously knows how to play poker. I think his last play is terrible though, when someone check-raises you 9/10 they have you beat. you don't see many check raise bluffs online, it was should've been obvious he made set on the flop, and thats not even taking into account someone slow playing A's or K's. He a better player than me though but just my 2 cents.

Terrible move. If he folds, he's still alive with a pretty healthy stack. This situation screams set. I don't believe has has A-A or K-K, 'cause he would have been re-raised pre-flop, especially from the BB facing a bet, which is the correct play.
 
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I just got cruelled.

Down to last 24 of 176. Top 10 paying.

Safely in 4th or 5th, make raise from button on JQ suited, SB calls.
I'm leading chipwise, 25000-22000

Flop comes J, 10, 5, no flush draws

SB goes all in, can't put him on overpair because he favours the slow play, so maybe AJ, the only hand I can see him in front with.

I call, he shows A,10. Hits A on the river.

Finished in 12th, so close yet so far, hate going out on a right decision. Would have been chip leader too.

Anyway, off to bed for the 6a.m $300 tourney.
 
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Anyway, off to bed for the 6a.m $300 tourney.

150 something players.

Played well early getting my $2500 stack up to $3500 in the early blind period before not doing much for the next hour. Then got seated next to an aggressive player on my left, he with triple my stack

Flat called from SB with AA he raised, I called again, came up KA9 he bet heavy, I raised, he folded . Very next hand called from button with 9,10 suited, he called, 3 in the pot, came up 9,4,5 he went all in, I called, he showed 9,7. I figured he either had KK,AA or nothing. Took the gamble and took chip leadership with about 9000.

Not much for the next hour, getting down to about $7000 and up to $8800 again sitting in 25th of 66, top 20 pay. Before irrelevant short stack went in with me on the SB, I raised the 300BB to 800 with 88, he called, came up A84, two spades, I checked, he checked, another spade, I went all in.
He shows J&10 of spades. River = no help, I'm out.
Maybe should have gone in a card earlier, but I'd probably make the same play 8 of 10 times hoping he has the A.


I could have taken $200 in the qualifier so I'm a little disappointed, but as they say, that's poker. Not a bad experience for $5.50 against the sharks.
 

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You didn't do much wrong, Falchoon.

Maybe like you said, would have made the move after the flop but who knows he may have gone all in anyway before getting the flush. He's basically even money to get it from that position as it stood.

Missus has gone shopping for the day so will be enjoying my afternoon playing the SAG's on Pokerstars. :D
 
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Guys anyone know any sites other than Pacific poker which have Free rolls, that are absolutley free, dont have to make a deposit first or anything?
 

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raised the 300BB to 800 with 88, he called, came up A84, two spades, I checked, he checked, another spade, I went all in.
He shows J&10 of spades.

I'm assuming you tried to check-raise here. The correct play would have been to bet out to put pressure on the opponent with the draw on the table. Most good players usually don't chase draws to a big bet, but if they guy was short-stacked, the chances are he would have called, anyway.

But, tough luck. There's nothing I hate more than flopping a set and having it cut down by a flush.
 

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Here's a scenario i heard about at the burswood casino.

Pot limit game.

One player had pocket 4's and another player had pocket aces.

3 of the community cards were 4 4 ace.

player with 2 aces betted $1000 after the river (thinking he had aces full of 4's) and got called by player with quad 4's........things got a little bit ugly after that lol
 

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monarch4 said:
Here's a scenario i heard about at the burswood casino.

Pot limit game.

One player had pocket 4's and another player had pocket aces.

3 of the community cards were 4 4 ace.

player with 2 aces betted $1000 after the river (thinking he had aces full of 4's) and got called by player with quad 4's........things got a little bit ugly after that lol

Played at Crown the other night (just 4/8 limit) and my brother gets dealt pocket aces. Flop comes A-K-K, giving him a very nice looking boat. Bets it right down to the river obviously, with another bloke who turns over pocket kings ... bad way to go out.
 
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First time I played at Crown,playing 2/4 limit, I had A&3 of diamonds

flop came 4 & 5 of diamonds and another 4, turn was a K, final card was a 2 of diamonds.

There were 3 of us in the pot unfortunately, because if you go H to H you can bet forever, but with 3 it is capped at 4 bets.

First bloke turns over 44 for 4 4's
2nd guy mucks.
I turn over A2345 of diamonds.

2nd guy cost me a small fortune.
 

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Played Crown for the first time on Tuesday night - had a great time.
Came third in my first game and (stupidly) played an incredibly bad hand in my second game and crashed out early. Highly recommend it though - everyone was very helpful to a "live table newbie" like me.

I'm after some advice people - when it comes down to "heads up" is there a particular strategy you employ? To me, it seems like an "all in" fest 'til someone hits 2 - 3 good hands in a row. Very little skill. Any thoughts?
 

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I'm after some advice people - when it comes down to "heads up" is there a particular strategy you employ? To me, it seems like an "all in" fest 'til someone hits 2 - 3 good hands in a row. Very little skill. Any thoughts?

There's a lot of skill in playing heads up. Heads up is a completely different ball game. There are different strategies to employ depending on your stack-size - obviously if you're short-stacked you'd look to double up quickly, whereas if you've got chips, you'll look to push the player around and put some pressure on.

Of course, you should see a lot more flops heads up, as you can play a lot more hands. If you're in late position, you need to play aggressively. If an opponent bets into you and you have the nuts on the flop, re-raise. You can't allow your opponent to see another card, as remember, he's not playing the big hands he would at a full-size table.

While under the gun, it's usually a good play to bluff out when necessary. For instance, if you have nothing and three spades hit the flop, it's a good idea to make a bet. The odds are that your opponent will fold to the possibility of the flush - but you should fold quickly to a re-raise, of course.

Also, remember, the best hand might not be the hand you'll lose to. For example, there's a good chance in most situations that you have the best hand with middle pair... but of course, you need to be careful.

If you're under the gun and you have the nuts, try to check-raise. This is a good play heads up. Remember, a check is a sign of weakness, so there's a good possibility that your opponent will bet out, especially if he's hit an inferior hand. A check-raise is a good way to put some pressure on, and perhaps even gather a call.

Try and take away pots on the flop when you have the nuts, but there is a flush draw. You don't want to be sucked-out to a calling station. You should never ever check in this situation.

Of course, when you get to this point, it's probably a good idea to have studied your opponent for most of the game. By now, you should have a good idea of his betting patterns, and if he's a tight/loose, passive/aggressive player.

But, the main advice I would give is to be aggressive in this situation. You can't sit back and wait for "all-ins" or "three good hands". Hope that helps a bit.
 
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Just thought I'd let every about the the aussie millions at crown in Jan. $10,600 buyin, there are Sats being run at Titan, Paradise and Party some start as low a $4. I don't really like any of these rooms but I am having a go at Party, they have a steps SnG for $11.
 

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I have just turned 18 about 3 months ago and live in Adel. Yet to play at the casino but me and 7 other mates usually try to play once a week or so with a $5 buy in. We all start with 25 chips.

On friday night we played and it we had probably only been playing for 30 mins with 1 person already out and i was dealt A4 offsuit. Raised preflop and flop came 235. As i was on the button, first guy raised and second guy called. I reraised and they both called. Turn comes 3. I knew one of them prolly had a 3 but i knew with straight i was still ahead. Bet again and was left with just 3 chips. River comes 2! This is when i knew i was buggered becasue it was now bleedingly obvious that someone had the fullhouse. Everyone checked suprisingly, i think waiting for me to bet but i didn'y, knowing i was gooooooorn. As it was i lost the hand and was left with 3 misely chips.

Next hand all in with J5. Picked up two more fives on the flop and won, now with 9 chips! All in next hand with Q7 and doubled up again with pait of queens. Now with about 20 or so chips i knew i had a slight chance but i was still on the short stack in a big way.

Kept going and suddenly luck began to turn my way. Was picking up good hands but at the same time bluffing a bit aswell. Bluffing in our games doesnt work that much due to the lowish stakes but for sum reason it did that night

Eventually there was just 3 of us left with about roughly the same amount of chips. Then down to 2. Had way morew chips than the other guy by this stage and pretty much just bullied him.

I was stoked with my comeback and i just love the game and hate it at the same time!
 

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On friday night we played and it we had probably only been playing for 30 mins with 1 person already out and i was dealt A4 offsuit. Raised preflop and flop came 235. As i was on the button, first guy raised and second guy called. I reraised and they both called. Turn comes 3. I knew one of them prolly had a 3 but i knew with straight i was still ahead. Bet again and was left with just 3 chips. River comes 2! This is when i knew i was buggered becasue it was now bleedingly obvious that someone had the fullhouse. Everyone checked suprisingly, i think waiting for me to bet but i didn'y, knowing i was gooooooorn. As it was i lost the hand and was left with 3 misely chips.

If I'm playing this hand against good players, and I've raised pre-flop, I play this hand very aggressively. Why? Because it's unlikely good players will call a pre-flop raise with A-3, A-2, K-2, K-2 etc.

I'd also question why someone is raising and/or calling with middle/bottom pair, and such a weak pair at that. You've raised preflop, which shows a sign of strength, and I doubt any reasonable player would raise/call with a pair of 2's or 3's, when they're most likely running into a high pocket pair, or even the top pair of 5's.

Of course, that's the thing about playing with friends... they could have anything... ;)
 

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Crosby87 said:
If I'm playing this hand against good players, and I've raised pre-flop, I play this hand very aggressively. Why? Because it's unlikely good players will call a pre-flop raise with A-3, A-2, K-2, K-2 etc.

I'd also question why someone is raising and/or calling with middle/bottom pair, and such a weak pair at that. You've raised preflop, which shows a sign of strength, and I doubt any reasonable player would raise/call with a pair of 2's or 3's, when they're most likely running into a high pocket pair, or even the top pair of 5's.

Of course, that's the thing about playing with friends... they could have anything... ;)


Yeh alot of them are very loose and becasue of the low stakes will try to win with anything. There are probably only 4 of us who really take it seriously and try to win. Having said that if one of the others has a lucky night they sumtimes win
 

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Yeah, I know what you mean. I used to play with a few guys and sometimes you'd get to the showdown and flip up a flush, and they'd have absolutely nothing.

One time, I had K-Jd, raised preflop, to one caller. Flop came 2d, 2s, 7d. I bet out, and my mate called. Turn came Ad. I bet out, he raised, I moved all in. I flipped over the nut flush, and he showed a full house, twos full of sevens - his starting hand being 2-7o, of course.

He had only learnt the game a couple of weeks before, but he still knew it was the worst starting hand possible.

I was pretty ********ed at that point, but we were only playing for fun. :)
 
Been playing with mates for a while and have just set up a regular weekly game at work.

Haven't tried online poker before this weekend, but it is scarily good.

Put in US$50 at PokerStars.com and lost it straight away on a combo of s&g and tournaments. I'm in a freeroll at the moment and am doing ok (down to last 600 of 6000, and fairly well placed ($42k from an original $1.5k). If I can drag myself into the top 27 I get a seat in a $1k money game.

Very worried that it will be all too easy for me log on at work tomorrow and pull out the credit card. ;)
 

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moomba said:
Been playing with mates for a while and have just set up a regular weekly game at work.

Haven't tried online poker before this weekend, but it is scarily good.

Put in US$50 at PokerStars.com and lost it straight away on a combo of s&g and tournaments. I'm in a freeroll at the moment and am doing ok (down to last 600 of 6000, and fairly well placed ($42k from an original $1.5k). If I can drag myself into the top 27 I get a seat in a $1k money game.

Very worried that it will be all too easy for me log on at work tomorrow and pull out the credit card. ;)

Hey hows it going?

i started the same as you chucking $50 into pokerstars 6 months ago or so. Now ive increased it a hell of a lot since then. Your best thing to do is read forums and then read some more forums. The more you know about the game the better you will go. Read up about bankrolls, position,check-raising etc
Its amazing how much you can learn that you dont really think about.
 
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