No non-Vic team has defeated a Vic team in the Grand Final without list or salary cap concessions

[blue harvest]

Salary cap in 2012 was 8.8million.Swans only paid after Cola 8million..7 other teams paid closer to full capacity in 2012.

Not according to this graph. They were right on the 8.8m and way above any other team when you add in the other allowances.

 

[Freomaniac]

we win next saturday and we're the first non vic team to beat a vic team in the grand final without list or salary cap concessions.

collingwood are $1.60 favourites while we're $2.35 underdogs no surprise really

good to see this thread reared its ugly head again.

have a crazy eagles supporting mate that put $100 in the start of the season at $40 to win the GF. They were $23 just to make it

 

[Final Siren]

no you don't. Since the split of Melbourne teams into the G or Etihad you see one team - Brisbane, beat two victorian teams, one of which calls etihad it's home, and years later, one win for Sydney over Hawthorn. Every other interstate premier beat another interstater.

Sure, but you're reaching this conclusion by coming up with different reasons why particular years shouldn't count. Since there are so few Grand Finals, if you do this, you can very quickly wind up with only two or three valid data points, and say, "Look how few there are!"

 

[Boston tiger]

The five best H&A records since 1990 are all Victorian. 9 of the top 12.

In the past 10 years, 9/10 Victorian teams have a better winning % at the MCG than EVERY non-Victorian team.

No non-Victorian side has ever defeated a Victorian side in the Grand Final without list or salary cap concessions.

The evidence is clear.

This is the VFL in drag.

Of course it is . Every club SA and WA knew this when they joined.
Unless you can change history and the demographic of Australia then it will always be a glorified VFL.
Is there a problem ?

 

[HTT]

no you don't. Since the split of Melbourne teams into the G or Etihad you see one team - Brisbane, beat two victorian teams, one of which calls etihad it's home, and years later, one win for Sydney over Hawthorn. Every other interstate premier beat another interstater.

It’s 8-8, and that even includes the last 5 years where mentally weak interstate teams have choked

 

[Boston tiger]

No. They did not.

Do your research.

Well someone must have been pissing in their pocket.

 

[blue harvest]

The five best H&A records since 1990 are all Victorian. 9 of the top 12.

In the past 10 years, 9/10 Victorian teams have a better winning % at the MCG than EVERY non-Victorian team.

No non-Victorian side has ever defeated a Victorian side in the Grand Final without list or salary cap concessions.

The evidence is clear.

This is the VFL in drag.

Just to clear this up now for the record in case the Eagles win, do they have list or salary cap concessions?

 

[Boston tiger]

No. They did not.

Do your research.

Eagles are originally a Victorian Football League club.

 

[Vic pokiesmon]

Salary cap in 2012 was 8.8million.Swans only paid after Cola 8million..7 other teams paid closer to full capacity in 2012.

I saw another graph from salarys of sporting clubs around the world.Showed swans had a cap of 8 Mill and ranked 8th.U look at Swans list in 2012 it was hardly star studded especially when u consider Goode's was on the veterans allowance.Mitch Morton who played for Eagles ,Tigers and Swans was asked about Cola and stated it should be 20% when comparing Sydney to Melbourne and Perth

 

[Colonial]

Of course it is . Every club SA and WA knew this when they joined.
Unless you can change history and the demographic of Australia then it will always be a glorified VFL.
Is there a problem ?

Actually we joined the AFL. Just saying.

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[Andrew Mc]

good to see this thread reared its ugly head again.

have a crazy eagles supporting mate that put $100 in the start of the season at $40 to win the GF. They were $23 just to make it

You could get 50/1 for Collingwood winning after round 2 as well.

 

[Boston tiger]

Actually we joined the AFL. Just saying.

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You are the AFL.

 

[Colonial]

You are the AFL.

Yep just like 18 other clubs.

It's our comp as well.

Bout time some vics accepted that.

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[The King!]

No vic club has beaten an interstate club in a grand final without the home ground advantage, or the extra opportunities for players to earn outside the cap eg work at fox footy, footy show etc

 

[Boston tiger]

Yep just like 18 other clubs.

It's our comp as well.

Bout time some vics accepted that.

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I accept everything the AFL does. Who’s complaining here?

 

[Colonial]

I accept everything the AFL does. Who’s complaining here?

Pointing out something that should be obvious is not complaining.



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[Boston tiger]

Pointing out something that should be obvious is not complaining.



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Go the Giants

 

[Colonial]

Go the Giants

Always


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[Bunk Moreland]

If West Coast defeat Collingwood,
I wonder what mythical West Coast “concessions” the proponents of this will invent in order to keep it going.

 

[Freomaniac]

Not according to this graph. They were right on the 8.8m and way above any other team when you add in the other allowances.

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surprised freo are 3rd on that list. Where is hawthorn in that table?

 

[blue harvest]

surprised freo are 3rd on that list. Where is hawthorn in that table?

Not sure, it wasn't fully labeled, only the first 2 were confirmed, Freo was an educated guess by the author hence the *.

 

[Andrew Mc]

Not sure, it wasn't fully labeled, only the first 2 were confirmed, Freo was an educated guess by the author hence the *.

Suspect Freo like Sydney and whoever is in 5th spot (maybe Hawks or North?) there had a fair whack of veterans payments that inflated their numbers. Sydney would have had Goodes and someone else that would have to be counted at 50% for the real cap, but would all show on the graph - Freo probably Pav and maybe Sandi.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-03-08/new-veterans-rule-put-all-clubs-on-a-level-playing-field

 

[Demonic Ascent]

Actually we joined the AFL. Just saying.

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You didn't join the AFL, you were created by the AFL.

 

[Colonial]

You didn't join the AFL, you were created by the AFL.

Incorrect

Was born well before the Giants were.

As such joined.

All clubs joined.

And if thats what you are hanging your hat on then you're ridiculous.

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[Demonic Ascent]

Incorrect

Was born well before the Giants were.

As such joined.

All clubs joined.

And if thats what you are hanging your hat on then you're ridiculous.

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http://www.gwsgiants.com.au/club/history/club-history

On March 13, 2008 the idea for the AFL’s newest club was born after the league won the support of the 16 club Presidents to establish an 18th side to be based at Blacktown International Sportspark in Western Sydney.