Politics No opt-out of filtered Internet

[Ant_]

You can tell an election is on the way. ALP have delayed their internet filter.

http://www.theage.com.au/technology...backs-down-on-net-filters-20100709-10381.html

 

[cancat]

You can tell an election is on the way. ALP have delayed their internet filter.

http://www.theage.com.au/technology...backs-down-on-net-filters-20100709-10381.html

This is as predictable as it is despicable. They are not campaigning on it because it's a vote loser then if elected they will bring it back.

 

[Ant_]

This is as predictable as it is despicable. They are not campaigning on it because it's a vote loser then if elected they will bring it back.

Agreed, it's still a vote loser for anyone with half a brain. Shame the masses will probably vote Gillard in.

 

[Ant_]

Oh and if you're a Telstra, Optus or Primus customer let us know how your censored internet is going?

 

[Clay Davis]

Oh and if you're a Telstra, Optus or Primus customer let us know how your censored internet is going?

Is it already censored? LOL.

 

[Hoffy95]

Oh and if you're a Telstra, Optus or Primus customer let us know how your censored internet is going?

Yeah it's terribly frustrating not being able to access the censored content any more...

 

[Ant_]

Is it already censored? LOL.

Those three are volunteering

 

[cancat]

Those three are volunteering

Sauce?

 

[placebo]

Those three are volunteering

They're volunteering? Volunteering?.....
What the gee hippy **** is that s**t.

 

[Ant_]

Sauce?

In the article linked above

n the meantime, major ISPs - including Optus, Telstra and iPrimus - have pledged to block child-abuse websites voluntarily. This narrower, voluntary approach has long been advocated by internet experts and brings Australia into line with other countries such as Britain.

 

[Cousin Jed]

Yeah it's terribly frustrating not being able to access the censored content any more...

Hi Stephen

 

[Ant_]

Mark is joking but this is pretty much Conroy's thoughts.

Just remember: Everyone in Australia is clearly "opting in to child pr0n" unless they're customers of Telstra, Primus, Optus #openinternet

http://twitter.com/NewtonMark/status/18088220120

 

[Ant_]

Liberals response here

http://twitdoc.com/docview?doc=3409...pi034yow/SmithonFilter.pdf&hits=254&qs=3echz5

 

[footyfreak]

strong response

 

[Helicopter Punt]

If you're not using the Internet for pr0n (I'm talking the extreme/violent/exploitative/paedophilic stuff, not just you're run-of-the-mill hardcore sex scenes) or anything else that could be considered 'questionable', will this Internet filter really effect you?

Considered questionable by who?
Who gets to define questionable?

 

[Ant_]

strong response

On this issue ALP are more right wing then the Liberals it seems.

 

[Helicopter Punt]

Yes, let's all be free to do anything we want, right?

YES.
I am capable of thinking for myself.
If you need the government to do your thinking and change your nappies what's wrong with opt in?

 

[Damon_3388]

Considered questionable by who?
Who gets to define questionable?

Well generally stuff that's already against the law would be what I'd put in the "questionable" category.

 

[footyfreak]

Well generally stuff that's already against the law would be what I'd put in the "questionable" category.

Don't think anyone is arguing that.

You are missing the point. If only illegal stuff was to be blocked it wouldn't be such an issue...but it isn't only illegal stuff, it is anything considered to be unreasonable by some secret organisation that doesn't have to tell you what they have blocked.

Surely you can see the problem with that?

Then there is the speed issues with having a compulsory filter! Plus a whole bunch more stuff.

 

[omit]

Oh and if you're a Telstra, Optus or Primus customer let us know how your censored internet is going?

my nets been slow as **** today. not sure if it has anything to do with Telstra and their censoring though

My plan

my speed today

that's 1/3 of the maximum speed I can get

oh and I can't access childporn.com or howtobuildabombforterroristpurposes.com

 

[Wonaeamirri33]

I'm guessing Telstra must not be filtering at the moment, because my speed's pretty much the same...

 

[dumb]

i'm waiting for it to be dropped, and then conroy tells us after the election he has a 'mandate'.

labor may delay plans but i hope the issue isn't dropped by the other parties.

 

[Damon_3388]

Surely you can see the problem with that?

I never actually stated whether I'm for or against it.

I haven't read right through the 40 page thread, so I probably haven't heard all sides of the argument, but my thought was that if it was just blocking extreme pr0n/illegal stuff (which was the impression I got from what I'd heard about it, but apparently it's more than that), then I'd be in favour of it.

However, if it's blocking more than that and slowing things down (which you'd think the technology would be sophisticated enough to prevent "unneccesary" blocking or speed issues), then it's not a great idea.

By the way, this is my result from SpeedTest.net just now - TPG ADSL Ultimate 1500 (ADSL+2 isn't available in my area):

That looks a fair bit slower than what others a putting up (and complaining about), yet it only takes a second for an entire webpage to load for me, and 10 minutes to download a whole album of songs, and I'm perfectly happy with that. I only upgraded from dial-up a month ago, so this speed is still a luxury and still pretty amazing to me.

 

[footyfreak]

I never actually stated whether I'm for or against it.

I haven't read right through the 40 page thread, so I probably haven't heard all sides of the argument, but my thought was that if it was just blocking extreme pr0n/illegal stuff (which was the impression I got from what I'd heard about it, but apparently it's more than that), then I'd be in favour of it.

And that's the whole problem. People don't understand how bad it is. Not your fault and I'm not having a go but think about the fact you think that and you're a young guy....imagine 40-70 year olds with no idea about technology at all except crap they read or see on the 7:30 report or similar.

 

[Damon_3388]

And that's the whole problem. People don't understand how bad it is. Not your fault and I'm not having a go but think about the fact you think that and you're a young guy....imagine 40-70 year olds with no idea about technology at all except crap they read or see on the 7:30 report or similar.

Well there needs to be some proper coverage in the "everyday at-a-glance" media (if that makes sense), because all I've really heard is that the idea for an Internet filter has been thrown out there, and it'd block out "questionable material". There hasn't been much at all about it actually being implemented or what it specifically involves on news programs (I probably don't read the papers as much as I should).