Simmo28
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If it meant flags in 2026 and 2028 then yeah I would take that
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If it meant flags in 2026 and 2028 then yeah I would take that
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Hart, of course. Shows you don’t necessarily need many coaches if you are good enough.
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It also shows 1997 has absolutely zero relevance to 2020
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I'm not convinced it's a soft cap issue as we were willing to exceed it.
IMO it's a case that we have left it too late for next season as other assistants are already contracted. Why appoint someone as a senior assistant for the sake of having someone with the title.
I would be surprised if we don't appoint a senior assistant for the following season & hopefully we are sounding out potential candidates during 2020 once Nicks has settled in.
It's not helped that the club are telling porkies that the role isn't needed.
Seems to me there are two reasons coaches get Senior Assistants. Because they are new and want an experienced senior coach to be a mentor to them, or they need someone who is strong in areas they are weak.
I don't think there are any experienced coaches who are available who we would want. Brad Scott maybe but he took a job with the AFL pretty quickly so probably had no interest in moving interstate. He also probably would have wanted more money than we would be paying Nicks.
We don't know what Nicks thinks his weaknesses are and he probably needs to coach for a year to truly find that out.
I'd bet Nicks talked to a few people and with the club weighed up the options available and decided there wasn't anyone worthwhile available at this point in time.
The club is never going to come out and say that the reason we aren't going for a senior assistant is because of a lack of quality candidates, because it would be an unnecessary slap in the face to the people we talked to, people we may want to join the club in the future when they show their value. Saying "Nicks decided he wants fewer voices" is saying to those people "It's not you, it's me".
I don't think there are any experienced coaches who are available who we would want. Brad Scott maybe but he took a job with the AFL pretty quickly so probably had no interest in moving interstate. He also probably would have wanted more money than we would be paying Nicks.
We don't know what Nicks thinks his weaknesses are and he probably needs to coach for a year to truly find that out.
I'd bet Nicks talked to a few people and with the club weighed up the options available and decided there wasn't anyone worthwhile available at this point in time.
The club is never going to come out and say that the reason we aren't going for a senior assistant is because of a lack of quality candidates, because it would be an unnecessary slap in the face to the people we talked to, people we may want to join the club in the future when they show their value. Saying "Nicks decided he wants fewer voices" is saying to those people "It's not you, it's me".
Is the Club telling Pokies or is that what a few want to believe.
Do we need a senior Assitant coach or do we head in the direction most of the top Club are heading in getting an opportision Strategy coaches and beefing up there development groups.
Is the use by date on senior assistants expired, Looking to 2020 and more clubs are dropping the role, Even GWS has not replaced Nicks with a senior assitant.
Do the Crows run with Heath Younie as a coaching director/ shoulder to lean on to all the Crows coaches, ie AFL, SANFL, AFLW and we beef up the development group. Few of the top clubs are heading that way, The introduction of the AFLW has changed the way some clubs are strutured with shared resources.
You’ve used that name more times than you’ve seen someone at Henley.
Was going to say the exact same thing. With the possibility of that dominance continuing as well.
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How these peanuts are still in charge of the club is beyond me... couldn't make this shyt up if you tried .
How these peanuts are still in charge of the club is beyond me... couldn't make this shyt up if you tried .
Agreed.
No point filling a role with the best available if that best isn't quality. Better of going without one, then working out what is needed over the next year and taking the time to target a quality person.
Of course, the club is never going to come out and say "welp we took too long to call for a review and then by the time it was completed all the remaining candidates were rubbish". So they just do the usual weasel-word thing of saying they "opted not to have a senior assistant (because all the good ones are taken)".
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Once would have been about right then
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Decision to not have senior assistant for 2020 based on who is available/late timeframes: B-
Messaging around this topic: F
Messaging around this topic: F
the other 2 were *ups, he only needs to be mediocre to be an improvement. No different to replacing Burto with an auto-reply email. We’re miles ahead on all counts.
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It’s amazing how we’ve moved further away from the best footy dept, to the point where it’s all no-names.
Maybe Nicks & co turn out to be guns and it all works out. Maybe.
It’d be more a case of dumb luck than shrewd appointments though. A bit like having a few 3rd and 4th round draft picks turn into champions. Not impossible but unlikely.
Richmond realised a problem and recruited the best footy head available. Doing anything other than what they did leads to Brett Burto getting the gig. Applying your logic results in the Scott Camporeales making our club their home regardless of real performance. DO NOT tie yourself down with structure, it’s meaningless. When our footy dept recruits or elevates a Senior Assistant, we hope it will be a worthwhile appointment/promotion. Who would actually trust our decision makers to make this call right now? If the call was made it would be of the pre-existent power base, so some dimwit like Campo gets the gig. Clear air, let’s see how the club goes under Nicks.
there’s likely better than Hart out there. But I doubt that any forward coach in the league had to deal with a list wide toxic culture, incompetent senior coach, incompetent senior assistant slash GAME DAY STRATEGY coach and a disastrous forward ball movement game plan. Look, I‘m happy to nail Hart to the same cross as every other counterproductive person on our org chart. But, identifying Hart as a significant issue when the top 3 of our coscjing hierarchy have either been terminated or paid out seems simplistic to me.
pretty obvious that you’d need the right assistant.
Oh I agree, that’s why I can live with one more season with him under a new coach and footy ops manager.
yep, he’s not even close to a concern of our club right now. Chappo must go, Roo not far behind.
Just listened to the Tex interview with Roo and Ditts. Roo made mention we didn’t have a Senior Assistant Coach in 2017 or 2018. We got into the GF in 2017 without a Senior Assistant Coach, so exactly how necessary is this role anyway? Did all recent premiership teams have a Senior Assistant Coach?
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