Society/Culture Nobody has anything new to say about God.

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Interesting.....I was unaware of the fact that Secular humanism has a moratorium on the use of Orwell.....Clearly I missed the memo.

It was sent out a while back. Check your email.

 

[Procrastinator35]

So clearly you don't understand the concept of "constitutional monarchy".

I was being glib.....But I'll have a fair dinkum crack this time all the same.

Is that where you have the last of the British royal line killed by your patsy in Cromwell, then kick out the last Jacobite Catholic king, before usurping the throne with an Orange-man from Holland, who summarily delivers the running of the Bank of England, over to the criminal cartel that had backed Cromwell to begin with?

How am I doing so far?

 

[Procrastinator35]

It was sent out a while back. Check your email.

Clearly my spam filter is working just fine then.

 

[Procrastinator35]

Taking out the hubris, it is the maladies and the neuroses and the insecurity about death and the shortness of our time here that has, I believe, led to humans seeking an outside assurance that life means something beyond our alotted time.

Many draw comfort from this security. Fair enough too. Not everyone needs it though.

As opposed to the hubbub & tumult of the forum in the seeking after fortune & fame.....AKA the modern rat-race....No distraction from our fate there at all.

 

[Roylion]

I was being glib.....But I'll have a fair dinkum crack this time all the same.

Is that where you have the last of the British royal line killed by your patsy in Cromwell, then kick out the last Jacobite Catholic king, before usurping the throne with an Orange-man from Holland, who summarily delivers the running of the Bank of England, over to the criminal cartel that had backed Cromwell to begin with?

How am I doing so far?

Well you could get some historical facts right for a start. And it's also very clear you don't understand the concept of constitutional monarchy or the concept of 'Divine Right of Kings'. Look I may have a spare seat in my next history tutorial class. Perhaps if you attend you might gain some much needed historical knowledge, instead of the fairy floss you read and swallow on conspiracy websites. And who knows? One day I might even take some of the things you say on here seriously.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

As opposed to the hubbub & tumult of the forum in the seeking after fortune & fame.....AKA the modern rat-race....No distraction from our fate there at all.

Variety is the spice of life! We're all on our own individual quests here. I know what you're saying though - there is nothing to worship in the modern rat race. Certainly not the Holy Dollar.

No fate but what we make?

 

[Procrastinator35]

And who knows? One day I might even take some of the things you say on here seriously.

Heaven forbid....

I forgot, you're the subscription text-book king.....Shame, as you're missing out on what actually happened behind the scenes.

Never mind.

 

[Procrastinator35]

Ill go to the wall over letting religious conservatives claim use of the term 'double think'. Orwell wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2011/06/orwell-vs-god/

Orwell vs God
A very Christian atheist
Robert Gray

 

[Roylion]

I forgot, you're the subscription text-book king.....Shame, as you're missing out on what actually happened behind the scenes.

Except that there's little evidence that your claims did actually happen "behind the scenes" in the way that you wished it did. Your presentation of historical facts is also very poor and don't particularly fill me with much confidence that you actually know what you're talking about.

Never mind.

Of course.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

And it's even more poorly understood by people who do not "beiieve" in it.

If one bothers to understand the "scientific theory of evolution", then many of the things you describe can be "explained away" by that theory.

Not to mention there's modern, observable examples of evolution going on right now.

https://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/04/080421-lizard-evolution.html

Italian wall lizards introduced to a tiny island off the coast of Croatia are evolving in ways that would normally take millions of years to play out, new research shows.

In just a few decades the 5-inch-long (13-centimeter-long) lizards have developed a completely new gut structure, larger heads, and a harder bite, researchers say.

In 1971, scientists transplanted five adult pairs of the reptiles from their original island home in Pod Kopiste to the tiny neighboring island of Pod Mrcaru, both in the south Adriatic Sea.

Genetic testing on the Pod Mrcaru lizards confirmed that the modern population of more than 5,000 Italian wall lizards are all descendants of the original ten lizards left behind in the 1970s...

...The transplanted lizards adapted to their new environment in ways that expedited their evolution physically, Irschick explained.

Pod Mrcaru, for example, had an abundance of plants for the primarily insect-eating lizards to munch on. Physically, however, the lizards were not built to digest a vegetarian diet.

Researchers found that the lizards developed cecal valves—muscles between the large and small intestine—that slowed down food digestion in fermenting chambers, which allowed their bodies to process the vegetation's cellulose into volatile fatty acids.

"They evolved an expanded gut to allow them to process these leaves," ( biology professor Duncan) Irschick said, adding it was something that had not been documented before. "This was a brand-new structure..."

 

[Procrastinator35]

Except that there's little evidence that your claims did actually happen "behind the scenes" in the way that you wished it did. Your presentation of historical facts is also very poor and don't particularly fill me with much confidence that you actually know what you're talking about.

The victors re-write the history, so it will cover over their ill-deeds.....Your naiveté is so sweet sometimes.

 

[Procrastinator35]

Not to mention there's modern, observable examples of evolution going on right now.

"They evolved an expanded gut to allow them to process these leaves," Irschick said, adding it was something that had not been documented before. "This was a brand-new structure..."

How is an expanded gut & bigger muscle walls between the large & small intestines a 'brand new structure'?.....Even human guts expand & contract as our diets differ.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Infantile responses. Why even bother? The brainwashing is strong in this one.

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You believe in a fairy.

I couldn't produce something more infantile than that if a stuck a knitting up my nostril and rearranged my neurons for an hour.

 

[chelseacarlton]

What's the pay gap between the 57 genders?
Inquiring SJW's want to know!

I don’t care for identity at all,you are what you is,if you care to identify as a car or some phytoplankton good for you,it doesn’t bother me either way.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

"They evolved an expanded gut to allow them to process these leaves," Irschick said, adding it was something that had not been documented before. "This was a brand-new structure..."

How is an expanded gut & bigger muscle walls between the large & small intestines a 'brand new structure'?.....Even human guts expand & contract as our diets differ.

Human guts expand and contract... but these lizards grew NEW TISSUE in a new functioning way when set apart from the original population. They became distinct from the rest of the Italian wall lizard population. A sub-species evolved.

 

[Procrastinator35]

Human guts expand and contract... but these lizards grew NEW TISSUE in a new functioning way when set apart from the original population. They became distinct from the rest of the Italian wall lizard population. A sub-species evolved.

You mean a sub-species adapted to the differing conditions, whereby a favourable characteristic became pre-dominant.....I'll bet they can still produce progeny with the old stock too.

 

[Leeda]

no but god is superficial and altogether selfish. after all he is all about following him and his cohorts..

so that dude is a kind of dynamic who keeps himself to himself and everyone else can get a load on.. or a load off.

trash talk isn't wrong and tiring of wrecked positions is also a good working position..

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

You mean a sub-species adapted to the differing conditions, whereby a favourable characteristic became pre-dominant.....I'll bet they can still produce progeny with the old stock too.

Isn't that what evolution IS? Favourable characteristics becoming dominant and thus changing the species through selective breeding? Humanity's intellect means we can develop tools and stuff to change the environment around us, but most of the animal kingdom don't have the luxury of tool-making.

 

[Baby Duck]

Wrong!
You’re using the logical fallacy argument.
Intelligent design 101,it’s banal and illogical.
The universe is 13.7 billions years old,our planet 4.5 billion years,there’s a lot of time for the evolutionary principle to enact symbiotic relationships between flora and fauna.
Trial and error and a whole lot of natural selection.
You’re only god of the gapping,it’s dull mate!

Yes, I knew you would say all that. Canned response. You asked, I answered. I shall leave you to it.

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[Procrastinator35]

Isn't that what evolution IS? Favourable characteristics becoming dominant and thus changing the species through selective breeding? Humanity's intellect means we can develop tools and stuff to change the environment around us, but most of the animal kingdom don't have the luxury of tool-making.

It's certainly what adaptation is.....There is still zero solid evidence in the fossil record for one type of animal kingdom 'evolving' into another.....Species differentiate all the time, but only within the confined limits of their pre-set & predetermined morphological parameters.

To my way of thinking, the fact a caterpillar can morph into a butterfly is some pretty magical s**t.....But that caterpillar aint gonna morph into something outside of it's pre-set genetic code.....Just aint gonna happen.

 

[Roylion]

The victors re-write the history, so it will cover over their ill-deeds.....Your naiveté is so sweet sometimes.

Yeah. What do I know? Only 35 years of teaching and studying history at secondary and tertiary level. I suppose your years of reading conspiracy websites and watching Youtube clips made by amateurs specialising in pseudo-history and psuedo-science gives you a level of expertise in historical matters that I clearly cannot hope to match. After all you now know the "real story."

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

It's certainly what adaptation is.....There is still zero solid evidence in the fossil record for one type of animal kingdom 'evolving' into another.....Species differentiate all the time, but only within the confined limits of their pre-set & predetermined morphological parameters.

To my way of thinking, the fact a caterpillar can morph into a butterfly is some pretty magical s**t.....But that caterpillar aint gonna morph into something outside of it's pre-set genetic code.....Just aint gonna happen.

True, it aint gonna happen. When cell growth leaps outside its hardwired coding in most (if not all) organisms it gets called 'cancer'. Species definitely differentiate, and in the beginning only mildly. But check this out;

https://phys.org/news/2010-09-scientists-evolution-action.html

(PhysOrg.com) -- The yellow-bellied three-toed skink (Saiphos equalis) is one of only three reptiles known to have different methods of reproduction in different places. In the coastal areas of New South Wales (NSW), near Sydney, Australia, the skink lays eggs, while in the northern highlands of NSW, it tends to favor giving birth to live young. Scientists say we are witnessing evolution in action, with the skink half-way in its transformation from an egg-layer to a bearer of live young.


The skink resembles a small snake, but with miniature legs. It reaches a length of about 18 cm, and is mostly nocturnal, feeding on insects.

Biologist James Stewart, of East Tennessee State University, and colleagues in the US and Australia have been studying the skink and have found ‘intermediate’ skinks that retain their eggs internally longer than others. It appears the live-bearers evolved from these.

The scientists have also discovered that as they retain their young internally for longer, the thickness of the eggshell is reduced until, for those bearing live young, the shell is merely a thick membrane. Having a thinner shell enables the mother to keep the embryo well fed while the egg is inside her body, but there is less calcium available for the embryo. Stewart and the team found that the uterus in the egg-layers secreted calcium that became incorporated into the embryo. “It’s basically the early stages of the evolution of a placenta in reptiles,” Stewart said.

Placentas! In lizards!

 

[Baby Duck]

Science tells us there are only two genders....

Dont open that can of worms. Just leave them to their delusions and politicised psuedoscience. Seriously. Just observe and shake your head. The moment you initiate any kind of interaction they will bombard you with passive aggressive insults and strong pressure to conform. They canr handle discussion unless its an echo chamber, their thinking was designed for them to be that way.

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[Colin Northcott]

Yeah. What do I know? Only 35 years of teaching and studying history at secondary and tertiary level. I suppose your years of reading conspiracy websites and watching Youtube clips made by amateurs specialising in pseudo-history and psuedo-science gives you a level of expertise in historical matters that I clearly cannot hope to match. After all you now know the "real story."

To be fair, you're self proclaimed mental sense of being superior means jack.

Rgds
Colin

 

[Procrastinator35]

Yeah. What do I know? Only 35 years of teaching and studying history at secondary and tertiary level. I suppose your years of reading conspiracy websites and watching Youtube clips made by amateurs specialising in pseudo-history and psuedo-science gives you a level of expertise in historical matters that I clearly cannot hope to match. After all you now know the "real story."

I never said you didn't 'know' your stuff.....You are clearly the most astute history scholar on this site for your chosen field.....What I question is the 'official' version of things according to those accepted textbooks.

We only need look at what's happening in Gaza today....I wonder whose 'version' of events will become the anointed text-book rendition in 50 years time?....Hmmmm.

Just because my version, interpretation & take on events doesn't 'accord' with the 'officially anointed historical narrative, doesn't of necessity make them pseudo, false or wrong....History is being re-written & is subject to correction all the time.

As Orwell noted.....Those in power & control of the current narrative need to control (re-write) the historical version of events as well.