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Because you come across as dumb. You support rubbish sensational statements. Here I’ll show you what can happen when you play the happy clappy atheist game with Mr Dawkins.

He is saying the Jewish God in the Old Testament is a made up character written by the Jewish people for the Jewish people. Importantly this fictional character written by the Jews for the Jews is the most evil character of all time

What does that tell you about the Jewish people?

Surely the people that invent the most unsavoury character of all time must be the most unsavoury people of all time.

Sieg Heil Sieg Heil Sieg Heil
Nothing to argue with here. Jews turned themselves into simpering prostrates in the face of their own invention, Then they wrote about Him(?) and their preposterous fantasies ad nauseum. It is for this reason that their religion has any currency at all - that they wrote it down, and then slavishly repeated those scribblings at every given (or stolen) opportunity. Great sales people - shit fantasists. Haters of their own humanity, which is why they denigrate any successful human endeavour as being the work of God, and anything which turns to shit as being the fault of mere humans. What a putrid take on an existence which is wasted on them, and their current fellow-travellers.
 

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Nothing to argue with here. Jews turned themselves into simpering prostrates in the face of their own invention, Then they wrote about Him(?) and their preposterous fantasies ad nauseum. It is for this reason that their religion has any currency at all - that they wrote it down, and then slavishly repeated those scribblings at every given (or stolen) opportunity. Great sales people - shit fantasists. Haters of their own humanity, which is why they denigrate any successful human endeavour as being the work of God, and anything which turns to shit as being the fault of mere humans. What a putrid take on an existence which is wasted on them, and their current fellow-travellers.
But dude.....They are God's chosen people.....and all the rest of us are merely Goy.

That's why they rule the world.....Cause they're the chosen one's.
 

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Nothing to argue with here. Jews turned themselves into simpering prostrates in the face of their own invention, Then they wrote about Him(?) and their preposterous fantasies ad nauseum. It is for this reason that their religion has any currency at all - that they wrote it down, and then slavishly repeated those scribblings at every given (or stolen) opportunity. Great sales people - shit fantasists. Haters of their own humanity, which is why they denigrate any successful human endeavour as being the work of God, and anything which turns to shit as being the fault of mere humans. What a putrid take on an existence which is wasted on them, and their current fellow-travellers.
There’s a chance Jesus was a black Jew. Grrr.
Or we we not doing the blacks ? Sorry
 

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Dawkins knows what sells.
Last time I looked Dawkins didn't have his own state inside Italy and multi billion dollar investments with the Rothschilds of Britain, France and America, with the Hambros Bank, with the Credit Suisse in London and Zurich. In the United States with the Morgan Bank, the Chase-Manhattan Bank, the First National Bank of New York, the Bankers Trust Company, Gulf Oil, Shell, General Motors, Bethlehem Steel, General Electric, International Business Machines, T.W.A.......and about $30 billion tied up here to round it out.
 

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Last time I looked Dawkins didn't have his own state inside Italy and multi billion dollar investments with the Rothschilds of Britain, France and America, with the Hambros Bank, with the Credit Suisse in London and Zurich. In the United States with the Morgan Bank, the Chase-Manhattan Bank, the First National Bank of New York, the Bankers Trust Company, Gulf Oil, Shell, General Motors, Bethlehem Steel, General Electric, International Business Machines, T.W.A.......and about $30 billion tied up here to round it out.
I’m guessing you are talking about this mob.
AN ANZ access account probably wouldn’t cut it.


“Stalin famously said of the Church, “The Pope! How many divisions has he?” Less well known is Churchill’s response that Stalin “might have mentioned a number of legions not always visible on parade”. Indeed, the reach and influence of the Church are not easily described by statistics alone, yet the raw statistics are staggering enough.

The Church operates more than 140,000 schools, 10,000 orphanages, 5,000 hospitals and some 16,000 other health clinics. Caritas, the umbrella organisation for Catholic aid agencies, estimates that spending by its affiliates totals between £2 billion and £4 billion, making it one of the biggest aid agencies in the world.

Even these numbers only tell half the tale. Caritas does not include development spending by a host of religious orders and other Catholic charities, while most of the 200,000 Catholic parishes around the world operate their own small-scale charitable projects which are never picked up in official figures. Establishing like-for-like comparisons is hard, but there can be little doubt that in pretty much every field of social action, from education to health to social care, the Church is the largest and most significant non-state organisation in the world.

“The Roman Catholic Church is the largest non-government provider of health care services in the world.[1] It has around 18,000 clinics, 16,000 homes for the elderly and those with special needs, and 5,500 hospitals, with 65 percent of them located in developing countries.[2] In 2010, the Church's Pontifical Council for the Pastoral Care of Health Care Workers said that the Church manages 26% of the world's health care facilities.[3]

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God exists.

Unless you believe God does not exist.

And then God really does not exist.

Mind is all and everything.
Fixed your syllogism for you......Funny how it works equally well both ways.....now aint it.

Ergo....It is no argument at all.
 

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Fixed your syllogism for you......Funny how it works equally well both ways.....now aint it.

Ergo....It is no argument at all.
It is not an argument, it is human nature, much of which, if not most, even for the rational, is not driven by rationality.

The wise simply know it.
 

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Fantasy sells more, which is why the Bible is such a popular book alongside other such Fantasy classics as The Lord of the Rings, The Wheel of Time series, A Song of Ice and Fire, etc etc
Though truth is stranger than fiction; & we all know that the Gods work in mysterious, invisible ways.
 

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Though truth is stranger than fiction; & we all know that the Gods work in mysterious, invisible ways.
Nah, truth ain't stranger than fiction in general.

Though I do agree that your gods act in ways that are undetectable, given they don't exist and thus are unable to do anything. Hope this helps P35.
 

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In the year of our Lord 2018
Unicorns
Giant sea monsters eating people
Capricious gods that have, coincidentally, characteristics and personality traits that your average human would exhibit
Human and animal sacrifices
Wars, murders, kidnappings, rapes and pillaging
Magic
Talking trees (bushes)
Etc, etc

Great themes all present in those fantasy classics that I mentioned
 
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Unicorns
Giant sea monsters eating people
Capricious gods that have, coincidentally, characteristics and personality traits that your average human would exhibit
Human and animal sacrifices
Wars, murders, kidnappings, rapes and pillaging
Magic
Talking trees (bushes)
Etc, etc

Great themes all present in those fantasy classics that I mentioned
And which all appeal to the imagination of mankind.

Would you like to deny the existence of that too?....I mean, after all.....It's invisible also, much as consciousness is......You know, that thing you are depending upon, in order to type those very words.

You'll get there one day.
 

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We don't need to prove that imagination and consciousness exist, or are real, given we all use/experience it.

Your imaginary gods however....
 

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Unicorns
Giant sea monsters eating people
Capricious gods that have, coincidentally, characteristics and personality traits that your average human would exhibit
Human and animal sacrifices
Wars, murders, kidnappings, rapes and pillaging
Magic
Talking trees (bushes)
Etc, etc

Great themes all present in those fantasy classics that I mentioned
Every time you write the date you are really writing ..I love you Lord Jesus
 

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Every time you write the date you are really writing ..I love you Lord Jesus
Nah, if I write the date it's because I'm writing the date.

BTW I need to come clean, I tell a lie - only one of those Fantasy novels I listed mentions unicorns, and it wasn't LoTR, GoT or the Wheel of Time series (from memory). You can work out which one is left.
 

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Nah, if I write the date it's because I'm writing the date.

BTW I need to come clean, I tell a lie - only one of those Fantasy novels I listed mentions unicorns, and it wasn't LoTR, GoT or the Wheel of Time series (from memory). You can work out which one is left.
Sounds like your struggling at the moment. Hang in there.
 

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Dawkins knows what sells.
When John Lennon declared that “they” were “bigger than jesus”,he was correct in more ways than one.
The youth movement from the mid to late 50’s and into the 60’s changed the world.
It really was a movement to the great unshakling of the mind forged manacles of the totalitarian/autocratic past,be it religion,bloodline or politic.
Youth culture has been the most significant cultural shift of realignment in history that our humanity has ever faced,bar the enlightenment!
The universe has recently been remapped and is far more older,diverse and complex than we’d even previously surmised.
If something can,which is close to empirically proven through modern math,come from nothing,does that indeed alter the way some would have to believe in god?
Is god nothing,rather than something?
There are vast amounts of nothing in the universe that contain vast amounts of something.
Why is the nothing so full,when something must have been be responsible for it?
If the fullness of nothing requires something,why create nothing which is so full?
Why does something create nothing, which is full of something,need to exist beyond the mere existence of nothing?
If nothing can create something from nothing,why is there an argument for something creating something ,which is full nothing to create something which is full of nothing?
The holy books are something,full of nothing,humanity has risen to the challenge and will continue to push theism back into a corner where it shall or should remain,until required to answer our questions against the crimes it has perpetuated against humanity and our collective reasoning!
That is why “your” something currently exists,because it has yet to pay recompense,or yet to answer for the crimes “we” wish it answer for!

Your nothing has a lot to answer for!
Ours has by definition,has NOTHING!
 
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