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It's only lazy anti-intellectual rubbish to morons who insist they label others to make them feel better about their own idiocy.
All humans are born by default as atheists.
They have to be indoctrinated for many years to believe the tripe the religious swallow without question, the abject anti-intellectuals they are, one and all.
As usual the lunatics in charge of the churches asylum insist it is those outside who are the nutters.
BULLSHIT!!!!! Atheism takes a leap of faith just like any other religion.
 

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BULLSHIT!!!!! Atheism takes a leap of faith just like any other religion.
Atheism- disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.

It is not faith it is a lack of belief/faith.

Faith- 1) complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
2) strong belief in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual conviction rather than proof.
 
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When you reject one thing naturally that forms a vacuum and you must adopt another set of beliefs. Saying its just a lack of something is trying to have your cake and eat it too. Atheism is the assertion that there is no God. If you all simply lacked the belief then there would be no desire to go around telling people they are wrong. Atheism to me is the reduction of man and nature to purely mechanical functions. It denies the spirit and soul, it denies that the intangible qualities that theists discuss as reality are even real at all. It takes man and says that he is nothing more than the firing of neurons and chemical reactions in the brain. This is the logical end of atheism that very few atheists acknowledge or believe because as I said already its hopelessly depressing and just plain nonsensical.

At the end of the day neither side has or ever could show definitive proof that theirs is correct. Personally my only belief is that there must be some sort of deity. Thats it. Beyond that I hold no religious beliefs because religion = control and thats not for me really. I am influenced though by Christian thought.

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Do you know why this vacuum is needed to be filled with a detached abstruse supernatural being? No?

Well I’m going to tell you. You see, for the intellectual, reality is unpalatable. People, you, exist purely for the basest of reasons, this reality creates too much vertigo and hence disbelief. But this is an inescapable fact, and therefore a person has to create for them self something more satisfying. The person wonders (sic) continually, constantly exposed to the answer yet still asking “what is the meaning?”.

I could imagine modern humans telling the Neanderthals that humans exist to wake up every morning, hop into their car and drive for an hour to work for 7 hours per day, to pay off a 30 year old home loan created by thugs, the Neanderthals would call modern humans a pack of unevolved regressive brutes, but that’s the truth of the matter. The meaning of life is only as intellectually satisfying as the brutes who have constructed society - that’s why it’s so dumb, that’s why people try to find something else, just like a lushworker in the coat pockets of a passed out wino.
 

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Do you know why this vacuum is needed to be filled with a detached abstruse supernatural being? No?

Well I’m going to tell you. You see, for the intellectual, reality is unpalatable. People, you, exist purely for the basest of reasons, this reality creates too much vertigo and hence disbelief. But this is an inescapable fact, and therefore a person has to create for them self something more satisfying. The person wonders (sic) continually, constantly exposed to the answer yet still asking “what is the meaning?”.

I could imagine modern humans telling the Neanderthals that humans exist to wake up every morning, hop into their car and drive for an hour to work for 7 hours per day, to pay off a 30 year old home loan created by thugs, the Neanderthals would call modern humans a pack of unevolved regressive brutes, but that’s the truth of the matter. The meaning of life is only as intellectually satisfying as the brutes who have constructed society - that’s why it’s so dumb, that’s why people try to find something else, just like a lushworker in the coat pockets of a passed out wino.
In my opinion a spiritual reality that would include some kind of deity is deducible from the immense order and balance of nature. Its not just that atheism, which you call reality, is unpalatable. It is cloistering intellectually. It puts great limitations on thought, which is of course the opposite of the propaganda spewed by most atheists. Fossilized systems of religion can certainly do the same thing however. Atheism leaves no room for progression of thought really, it states what is how it sees it and you're a heretic if you say otherwise.

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In my opinion a spiritual reality that would include some kind of deity is deducible from the immense order and balance of nature. Its not just that atheism, which you call reality, is unpalatable. It is cloistering intellectually. It puts great limitations on thought, which is of course the opposite of the propaganda spewed by most atheists. Fossilized systems of religion can certainly do the same thing however. Atheism leaves no room for progression of thought really, it states what is how it sees it and you're a heretic if you say otherwise.

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I’m not an Atheist I’m a Gnostic (not to be read as Agnostic), because I know God. It’s just that God is not all that He is cut out to be, you won’t find God if your expectations are too high.
 

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God does not seem terribly interested in our affairs.

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Only where, for example, munny isn’t concerned.

Say if a Christian is sitting within their house, pondering their lot, they may think to themselves, “Why is suffering all pervasive? It appears I’m close to poverty all the time. This must be due to original sin. God exists”

Let me correct this for the Christian,

“Why is suffering all pervasive? It appears I’m close to poverty all the time. This must be because banks can legally calculate a loan amount, with interest, based on the recipient living in poverty. God exists”
 

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It's empirical deduction.

You can never be sure of anything, but that's not a rational basis to live a life.
Then why are atheists so damn sure about it, while also tellinf everybody its actually just a lack of belief? Makes no logical sense, which smells of bigger agendas at work.

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Then why are atheists so damn sure about it, while also tellinf everybody its actually just a lack of belief? Makes no logical sense, which smells of bigger agendas at work.

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Atheists are only certain when it comes to dismissing the bullshit rationale that almost always follows "believers".
 

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In my opinion a spiritual reality that would include some kind of deity is deducible from the immense order and balance of nature. Its not just that atheism, which you call reality, is unpalatable. It is cloistering intellectually. It puts great limitations on thought, which is of course the opposite of the propaganda spewed by most atheists. Fossilized systems of religion can certainly do the same thing however. Atheism leaves no room for progression of thought really, it states what is how it sees it and you're a heretic if you say otherwise.

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There are literally 10s of billions of galaxies in the observable universe which extrapolates out to 1 billion trillion stars, this would leave an unfathomable number of planets. We on this "pale blue dot" are just plain lucky, our existence is just pure numbers and chance IMO. The Earth was not "designed" for us, it was inevitable given the size of the cosmic petri dish. The human race suffers from a gargantuan case of delusions of grandeur.

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On November 4, 2013, astronomers reported, based on Kepler space mission data, that there could be as many as 40 billion Earth-sized planets orbiting in the habitable zones of Sun-like stars and red dwarf stars within the Milky Way galaxy.[1][2] 11 billion of these estimated planets may be orbiting Sun-like stars.[3] The nearest such planet may be 12 light-years away.[1][2]

Scientific findings since the 1990s have greatly influenced the scope of the fields of astrobiology, models of planetary habitability and the search for extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI). NASA and the SETI Institute have proposed categorising the increasing number of planets found using a measure called the Earth Similarity Index (ESI) based on mass, radius and temperature.[4][5] According to this measure, as of 23 July 2015, the confirmed planet currently thought to be most similar to Earth on mass, radius and temperature is Kepler-438b.[6] Scientists estimate that there may be billions of Earth-size planets within the Milky Way galaxy alone.[2][7]
 

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BULLSHIT!!!!! Atheism takes a leap of faith just like any other religion.
LOL.
Sorry you are totally wrong.
Does it require a leap of faith to not be born believing in hobgoblins or fairies?

Same old BS.
Desperately trying to drag others into your delusion, even those outside of it..
 

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Then why are atheists so damn sure about it, while also tellinf everybody its actually just a lack of belief? Makes no logical sense, which smells of bigger agendas at work.

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This seems to be your mental issue...not that of the atheist.

It is not for the person who makes absolutely no claim to supply any evidence of anything.
The religious types posit the existence of a sky fairy, it's up to them to supply the evidence.
In the absolute absence of any at all they are the one who stand without argument.

The atheist is just left staring at the idiot who claimed he had a sky fairy.

Yet you tools want to blame the atheist for your flaccid existence?

I laugh at you.
 
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About the same leap it takes not to believe in dragons and unicorns.
Dragons & unicorns appeal to the human imagination mightily though.....Tis almost as if they are transcribed upon our human psyche intrinsically, one might say.:)

Ponder that for a moment Chief, the greatest Admin in history.
 

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Dragons & unicorns appeal to the human imagination mightily though.....Tis almost as if they are transcribed upon our human psyche intrinsically, one might say.:)

Ponder that for a moment Chief, the greatest Admin in history.
Moment spent pondering.

And.... back to reality.
 
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