Society/Culture Nobody has anything new to say about God.

[Geelong_Sicko]

My cupeth hath filleth overeth.

We just evolved as nature intended into the greatest team of the modern era P35.

Ha! Lingy does both poses!

 

[Procrastinator35]

Ha! Lingy does both poses!

But our cups are newer & shinier & come without any tell-tale gaps between em.....Yours is the Holy trinity of the Gaps.....Just like the gap in the Holy Trinity today.

 

[Pie eyed]

Dragon and unicorns are based upon facts but misinterpreted and embellished - dinosaur fossil bones in the case of dragons and narwhal tusks for the unicorn.

I would be tempted to believe such BS if the small mouse like mammals that survived the destruction of the dinosaurs and last saw a living dinosaur had the ability to pass down mythology...
That not being the case, your claim is total and absolute BS.

 

[Pie eyed]

English anacondas?

Egyptian Boa Constrictors?

Hey man...back in the day Bethlehem was in South America....everybody knows that?
Boa's every *in where even in the manger.....

 

[Admiral Byng]

I would be tempted to believe such BS if the small mouse like mammals that survived the destruction of the dinosaurs and last saw a living dinosaur had the ability to pass down mythology...
That not being the case, your claim is total and absolute BS.

I'm not making it up, there have been various papers published on this. In the case of unicorns there is documented evidence of medieval people keeping narwhal tusks as curiosities in the belief they came from unicorns.

 

[Procrastinator35]

I'm not making it up, there have been various papers published on this. In the case of unicorns there is documented evidence of medieval people keeping narwhal tusks as curiosities in the belief they came from unicorns.

Dragons also still exist today.....Just don't tell ole pie-in-the-sky there.....Genius that he is.

 

[Admiral Byng]

Dragons also still exist today.....Just don't tell ole pie-in-the-sky there.....Genius that he is.

The Komodo Dragon was unknown to western science before 1900. The legend of St George and the dragon for example dates back to the dark ages. it is a case of the Komodo lizard (which is what it undoubtedly is) is named after the mythical creature, not the other way around.

 

[Procrastinator35]

The Komodo Dragon was unknown to western science before 1900. The legend of St George and the dragon for example dates back to the dark ages. it is a case of the Komodo lizard (which is what it undoubtedly is) is named after the mythical creature, not the other way around.

Sure....Though the early explorers would definitely have come across it at times.....The flying Teradactyl would likely be a dinosaur version.

The point is more that the Dragon is a central mythological figure in almost all cultures, even though it's morphological structure & details can vary, the essential defining character of & it's place in our human psyche remains almost universal across cultures.....Take the Loch Ness Monster, Japans' Godzilla & the Chinese water & twin Dragons, as exemplars thereof.....Saint George & the Dragon is of course, the Celtic/Anglo version.

 

[Admiral Byng]

Sure....Though the early explorers would definitely have come across it at times.....The flying Teradactyl would likely be a dinosaur version.

The point is more that the Dragon is a central mythological figure in almost all cultures, even though it's morphological structure & details can vary, the essential defining character of & it's place in our human psyche remains almost universal across cultures.....Take the Loch Ness Monster, Japans' Godzilla & the Chinese water & twin Dragons, as exemplars thereof.....Saint George & the Dragon is of course, the Celtic/Anglo version.

Dinosaur fossils are found all around the world, in every continent (including Antarctica).

 

[Procrastinator35]

Dinosaur fossils are found all around the world, in every continent (including Antarctica).

Sure.....I still recall the chart from when I was a school-kid:

 

[Baby Duck]

"We shall unleash the nihilists and the atheists and we shall provoke a great social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to all nations the effect of absolute atheism; the origins of savagery and of most bloody turmoil." - Albert Pike

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[Scallop Industry Thug]

"We shall unleash the nihilists and the atheists and we shall provoke a great social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to all nations the effect of absolute atheism; the origins of savagery and of most bloody turmoil." - Albert Pike

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Cool.

Got an ETA?

 

[Procrastinator35]

"We shall unleash the nihilists and the atheists and we shall provoke a great social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to all nations the effect of absolute atheism; the origins of savagery and of most bloody turmoil." - Albert Pike

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When the world & material existence become ends in themselves, then $$$ takes the place of God.

 

[Admiral Byng]

When the world & material existence become ends in themselves, then $$$ takes the place of God.

Already happened in the USA, the evangelical Trojan movement have replaced God with the values of market capitalism. Clever move, would never have got away with calling market capitalism a moral code in its own right, but to dress is up in a veneer of religiosity makes it easy to sell to the masses.

 

[Snake_Baker]

 

[Snake_Baker]

 

[Baby Duck]

Cool.

Got an ETA?

1917 - Today

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[Baby Duck]

When the world & material existence become ends in themselves, then $$$ takes the place of God.

Death squads in the middle of the night and concentration camps help with that. As does a materialistic dogma of science. Science and humanism are the new religion, as given to us by men like Pike.

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[Baby Duck]

Already happened in the USA, the evangelical Trojan movement have replaced God with the values of market capitalism. Clever move, would never have got away with calling market capitalism a moral code in its own right, but to dress is up in a veneer of religiosity makes it easy to sell to the masses.

Thank Edward Bernays and his massive financial backing. He said that instead of blanketing neighbourhoods and relying on your good name to push a product, instead go through the phone book and arrange meetings with the heads of already existing organisations starting with churches. Point being to change society to suit the product rather than the other way around. Ever noticed how we are sold fantasies and dreams through emotions? No one tells you how good the quality of anything is. The car industry works this way, and cars have become of increasingly poorer quality as you watch ads containing catchy mantras and folks driving over mountains or on empty roads...

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[Baby Duck]

Truth be told the church has basically always been used as a means of reinforcing obesiance to the authority of the state. It was this way long before the Christian era. Today obesiance to authority is promoted through science and the green "save the planet" religion.

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[Showbags]

This idea that religion has a monopoly over morality is utter horseshit.

If you followed the bible to the letter you would need to execute gay people, blasphemers, adulterers, disobedient children, non-virgins on their wedding night, sabbath breakers, people from other religions.

I dont think anyone could objectively argue that any of that is not immoral. Moderately religious muslims or christians are more moral than their fundamentalist counterparts (see ISIS and some evangelical Christians) precisely due to the fact that moderates reject the more repugnant parts of their religious texts and instead follow secular humanist principles in place of those.

 

[Baby Duck]

This idea that religion has a monopoly over morality is utter horseshit.

If you followed the bible to the letter you would need to execute gay people, blasphemers, adulterers, disobedient children, non-virgins on their wedding night, sabbath breakers, people from other religions.

I dont think anyone could objectively argue that any of that is not immoral. Moderately religious muslims or christians are more moral than their fundamentalist counterparts (see ISIS and some evangelical Christians) precisely due to the fact that moderates reject the more repugnant parts of their religious texts and instead follow secular humanist principles in place of those.

Its moreso the idea that developed from Christianity that man is a divinely created being and therefore has intrinsic value and rights that can only be altered by the creator. Humanist morals operate on subjective popular opinion. Its subjective moral relativity vs objective moral standards. Basically if you did something I disagreed with there would be nothing objective we could look to determine who is in the right. Religion was developed to stop this situation arising because it always tended towards conquest and bloodshed.

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[Geelong_Sicko]

Already happened in the USA, the evangelical Trojan movement have replaced God with the values of market capitalism. Clever move, would never have got away with calling market capitalism a moral code in its own right, but to dress is up in a veneer of religiosity makes it easy to sell to the masses.

Trojans? But their cars look so SILLY!

 

[Showbags]

Its moreso the idea that developed from Christianity that man is a divinely created being and therefore has intrinsic value and rights that can only be altered by the creator. Humanist morals operate on subjective popular opinion. Its subjective moral relativity vs objective moral standards. Basically if you did something I disagreed with there would be nothing objective we could look to determine who is in the right. Religion was developed to stop this situation arising because it always tended towards conquest and bloodshed.

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This idea that we would all be cracking each others heads open and feasting on the goo inside without fear of a sky fairy's wrath is nonsense.

If your contention was true then there would be a strong correlation between religiosity and social cohesion. It is in fact almost the complete opposite. The more religious theocratic countries are the ones struggling on that front while the less religious secular countries do much better.

Your thought process is actually frightening. It's basically admitting that you don't think it is wrong to rape or murder someone unless a sky fairy tells you it's wrong. Does that mean you would be going around raping and murdering if you had no belief in god and no for fear of your god's wrath? I'll do you the courtesy of suggesting no you wouldn't.

 

[Procrastinator35]

This idea that we would all be cracking each others heads open and feasting on the goo inside without fear of a sky fairy's wrath is nonsense.

If your contention was true then there would be a strong correlation between religiosity and social cohesion. It is in fact almost the complete opposite. The more religious theocratic countries are the ones struggling on that front while the less religious secular countries do much better.

Your thought process is actually frightening. It's basically admitting that you don't think it is wrong to rape or murder someone unless a sky fairy tells you it's wrong. Does that mean you would be going around raping and murdering if you had no belief in god and no for fear of your god's wrath? I'll do you the courtesy of suggesting no you wouldn't.

What's that famous quote again from Dostoyevsky's Crime & Punishment?

"Without God, then anything is permissible".....God here is symbolic of that small voice of reason & conscience that we all possess....And when we turn our backs on it or ignore it often enough, then it most assuredly withers away....And when that becomes societally endemic, then we are most assuredly in trouble.