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Or replacing scientists who suppose that science proves there is no God.
Not sure science does that regardless of what that f-wit Richard Dawkins says.
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Or replacing scientists who suppose that science proves there is no God.
Or astronomers who are now examining places 35 billion light years away and wondering why there’s not one sign of god yet
Or astronomers who are now examining places 35 billion light years away and wondering why there’s not one sign of god yet
Yep because God is a distance thing.
I feel like this may be the most important thread on BF, or maybe it's the least important. I don't know, you tell me, or not.
But what actually is god, anyway? Is it a being, a denominational being, an energy? Is it everything? Or nothing? Shouldn't we at least agree on what 'god' actually is before we discuss it?
Who/what actually is god? It's a question that has been asked throughout the ages. Is there actually any meaning in existence? Any meaning at all? Do you ever ask yourself these questions?
DISCLAIMER: it's Saturday night and I'm quite intoxicated(and will probably regret this post).
Agreed. My own perception is that 'god' is not an omnipotent being, though that is not to discount the possible existence of 'gods', per se.
I also do not buy in to creationism but understand why, given the belief in god as a creator, people would see it that way.
I'm an agnostic, and certainly don't subscribe to any of the organised religions. But the suggestion that science has just about got it all figured out is beyond ludicrous. So we can see stuff that is really far away, that certainly answers all our questions...Or astronomers who are now examining places 35 billion light years away and wondering why there’s not one sign of god yet
...........the suggestion that science has just about got it all figured out is beyond ludicrous. .............
The claim that "we've seen 35 billion light years away but haven't found god" could only be interpreted as "well, we've basically seen it all". Far from true. Science is still in its infancy in many regards.Science doesn't claim this.
The claim that "we've seen 35 billion light years away but haven't found god" could only be interpreted as "well, we've basically seen it all".
Science is still in its infancy in many regards.
IMO atheism is unscientific. On the one hand, we know that creationism etc is bullshit. But on the other, we have no real idea yet of what reality is or of how many "realities" there are, so how can we rule out the metaphysical?
Atheism is unscientific?!?!The claim that "we've seen 35 billion light years away but haven't found god" could only be interpreted as "well, we've basically seen it all". Far from true. Science is still in its infancy in many regards.
IMO atheism is unscientific. On the one hand, we know that creationism etc is bullshit. But on the other, we have no real idea yet of what reality is or of how many "realities" there are, so how can we rule out the metaphysical?
That single comment is what I was responding to, I was not making the suggestion that the science field in general believe that their job is nearly done.This is a single comment assigned from a single field of science, not science in total.
How do you arrive at that conclusion?
1) Atheism is not necessarily "unscientific"
2) "Metaphysics" is basically philosophy. It's not synchronized with science until science ratifies some aspect of it.
I personally don't rule things in or out without decent evidence.
That single comment is what I was responding to, I was not making the suggestion that the science field in general believe that their job is nearly done.
I consider science to be in its infancy due to many reasons.
God is the logos; that which creates and speaks things into being, the conscious creative thought that generates ideas and in turn manifests the un-real into the real, whether physically or meta-physically.I feel like this may be the most important thread on BF, or maybe it's the least important. I don't know, you tell me, or not.
But what actually is god, anyway? Is it a being, a denominational being, an energy? Is it everything? Or nothing? Shouldn't we at least agree on what 'god' actually is before we discuss it?
Who/what actually is god? It's a question that has been asked throughout the ages. Is there actually any meaning in existence? Any meaning at all? Do you ever ask yourself these questions?
DISCLAIMER: it's Saturday night and I'm quite intoxicated(and will probably regret this post).
Totally agree. Which is why I consider it extremely unlikely that any of the major religions have it right, or are even close.As for scriptural gods, there's very little if any scientific support for them.
Existence itself is unexplained by science. There is a hypothesis that existence is due to, or dependent upon, some higher being, or metaphysical energy or whatever. I don't believe such a theory, nor do I rule it out.Yet you have ruled in the possibility of God with absolutely zero decent evidence.
I do wish people wouldn’t frame themselves as evidence-based when, in reality, they are happy to believe any madcap idea that fills a gap in their life.
While it can be difficult to prove a negative, I'm not yet satisfied that there is good reason to rule out some form of "god".