What are the odds that a guy could talk about grabbing someone by the pussy and weeks later be elected president?
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Thanks, I get that a lot. But funnily enough I end up being right most (not all) of the time.
Well Bill Clinton was president...
And I'd imagine he'd have lost if it came out he slept with his intern before the 1992 election
I wouldn't. His approval ratings rose during and after the Lewinsky scandal. And the Jennifer Flowers scandal was well known throughout his presidency.
Consensual sex (albeit adulterous) =/= sexual assault
Despite that, neither of those things seen to make a difference to public opinion in the States. The research suggests that once people have made their decision (and they do so reasonably early), they are unlikely to shift it, even in light of scandals/unpopular policy decisions by the candidate.
Despite that, neither of those things seen to make a difference to public opinion in the States. The research suggests that once people have made their decision (and they do so reasonably early), they are unlikely to shift it, even in light of scandals/unpopular policy decisions by the candidate.
I'm not sure the Lewinsky and especially Flowers scandals were all that consensual. Amongst the several others.
Personally I think your assertion that it didn't matter much is insufficient. Trump took a massive hit to his popularity and in the polls when that video came out. But having a candidate possibly being jailed three to four days prior to the election probably "trumped" that. Further unfortunately Hilary had much of the same stink as Trump on this issue, her husband was a serial sex hound who has paid out of court settlements before. I think you can say "it didn't matter" had the opposition not been who they were. All you can really claim now is that it may not have mattered based on the research.
Wasn't going to happen. Announcing that 'some emails were found and we haven't looked at them but we're just letting you know' shouldn't have been harmful but the need for the media to make things a horse race and present 'balance' hurt her more than any actual wrongdoing in that last week. That and Anthony 'Danger' Weiner's name poping up in association with her (the penis that literally f**ked a nation)
I'm not going to comment on whether or not it was going to happen but I find it interesting that Petraeus was almost jailed for a similar yet far less concerning governance issue.
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Trump getting elected is nothing more than an indicator of sentiment that is reoccurring all over the world. In uncertain economic times where the gap between the well-off and the lowest income earners couldn't be larger, we're seeing a large scale revolt against status quo middle-left politics that's gotten far too comfortable in it's own skin over the years.
There's been a giant collapse in left wing sentiment across the whole of Western Europe aswell.
It's looking like the constitutional referendum in Italy introduced by its centre left prime minister will fail.
The left wing government in France has world record low approval ratings and the much preferred party in the polls over there is a heavily right-wing nationalist party that babbles on about exactly the same sort of stuff Trump does.
The whole of the Eurozone doesn't really seem confident in centralized economic management by the ECB anymore.
With all this in mind, why would the average American with a piss poor wage compared to just about every 'democrat' in Washington DC vote for wall street's baby in the election? Most of the Democratic Party getting handouts from Goldman Sachs are just as out of touch with the average American as Trump would be.
At least trump, despite being completely unrealistic with his rhetoric about returning manufacturing and export jobs to the US was trying to be nationalistic and inclusive of the actual real workers in the country.
One could also say that Tony Abbott's very successful election campaign came from the same sort of nationalistic rhetoric as trump's did, albeit with the volume turned down a touch.
There's been a giant collapse in left wing sentiment across the whole of Western Europe aswell.
It's looking like the constitutional referendum in Italy introduced by its centre left prime minister will fail.
The left wing government in France has world record low approval ratings and the much preferred party in the polls over there is a heavily right-wing nationalist party that babbles on about exactly the same sort of stuff Trump does.
The whole of the Eurozone doesn't really seem confident in centralized economic management by the ECB anymore.
With all this in mind, why would the average American with a piss poor wage compared to just about every 'democrat' in Washington DC vote for wall street's baby in the election? Most of the Democratic Party getting handouts from Goldman Sachs are just as out of touch with the average American as Trump would be.
At least trump, despite being completely unrealistic with his rhetoric about returning manufacturing and export jobs to the US was trying to be nationalistic and inclusive of the actual real workers in the country.
One could also say that Tony Abbott's very successful election campaign came from the same sort of nationalistic rhetoric as trump's did, albeit with the volume turned down a touch.
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Is it the failure of the Left or in most cases Centrist parties, or is it the false idea that democracy is capitalism?
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You can point to a whole lot of things in each instance around the world but a swing further right is pretty much a worldwide trend in developed nations at the moment. Obviously a lot of these parties don't have the more capable leader at the helm that makes the most sense, which is the case for trump, but it just seems like the general population of these nations are fed up with middle-left politics and are voting to give the whole establishment a giant middle finger. So now we're having change for the sake of change.
When you look at the paid Wall Street bonus figures last year which were to the tune of 30 billion dollars and then look at the accumulated ACTUAL WAGE figures of US minimum wage earners of about 15 billion for the same time frame, you can understand why the average American wouldn't want to vote for a Wall Street sweetheart with her party getting funded by ******* Goldman. This is all 8 years after Wall Street got bailed out of their own stupidity by these same taxpayers.
I'm talking about the second batch that came up after it was announced she would not be prosecuted. Whatever your thoughts on the actual scandal the 2nd batch was always clearly all smoke it it was probably what hurt the most.
Interestingly that's the situation Germany found itself in in the 30s.
Chomsky said back in 2009-10 that the left should not attack and mock the tea party but instead offer solutions to their problems. All they hear is guys like Limbough telling them it's the illegal immigrants taking their jerbs and blah blah blah. He may have been right as there seems to be real appetite and approval for Bernie's agenda (maybe with someone a bit younger) when you present the individual proposals while even Trumps supporters actually seem to not like a lot of his proposals when presented to them (the old selective 'well he didn't mean that one' I guess).
So if the Democrats were to offer solutions to the problems these people have and embrace a progressive agenda with a candidate with less baggage it wouldn't win over everyone (bible thumpers and people who are just too invested in their 'team') but it would probably be enough to get back the Rust Belt states that should be blue but flipped this year.
More specifically to your points I think you're right that people are sick of 'others' being put first. The others can be corporate interest but there's plenty who see others as minorities as well apparently.
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Your point about both Sanders and Trump and the Rust Belt is a good one. On the one hand pushing an idea that they will be bringing back large scale manufacturing jobs to the united states is completely ridiculous, considering all the big manufacturing and export powers like China and Germany are substituting labor for capital/machinery and have been for decades to increase productivity and keep workers safe. On the other hand, it at least reminds the people living in those states that the leader of their country is thinking about them, and a way to make things better for them by adding to infrastructure and increasing their wage. Sometimes that sort of acknowledgement and thought in policy can go a long way in getting votes.
You were also bang on about minorities and anti immigration. Right wing politics, no matter how far right, has always used that as a way to unite people and get large amounts of votes from the general population. We see it in Trump. We see it in Poland and France with huge nationalist followings. We even saw it here with Tony Abbott and his 'stop the boats' catchphrase getting far better election results than Turnbull did.
Left wing parties worldwide are having a really hard time convincing people that taking on immigrants and asylum seekers is a good idea. When a large portion of these populations no longer have enough money to buy a house, buy a car, have children, and provide for their families, the difficulty in convincing them they should be sharing their country with people from outside is understandable. Especially when the people doing the convincing are politicians that are paid very very handsomely for what they do.
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I would call a pest removal business.
Trust me you do not want it dying there, your house will stink, blowflies will be everywhere and maggots crawling through into the house.
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Send some snakes in there after it. Then when the snakes get it, send a mongoose in after the snakes. Then move out because the mongoose now owns your house.
Good to see the conversation has steered away from politics and other controversial issues.
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