No Oppo Supporters Non Bulldog Footy Talk - Bulldogs only - Part 2

[ManOfClay]

Is this a main board or Bay 13 thing? Wines is a jet. Would slot in amazingly at the Dogs.

Main board.

I just don't rate him all that highly.

 

[immortalmike]

Main board.

I just don't rate him all that highly.

Bigger prime Matty Boyd with worse skills and contested ability.
Never got the hype.

 

[Super Hans]

Wines is very good, don't think he has the game to be a superstar. Came into the league as a man do the natural improved isn't there.

He'd get a game for us easily, though.

 

[immortalmike]

Wines is very good, don't think he has the game to be a superstar. Came into the league as a man do the natural improved isn't there.

He'd get a game for us easily, though.

Who do you take out?
Clay? Wallis?

 

[Super Hans]

Who do you take out?
Clay? Wallis?

I think he's better than those two. He'd get in over Dunkley also.

 

[LittleG]

Main board.

I just don't rate him all that highly.

The guy can't hit a barn by foot. He is shockers.
In saying that, he is great at hardballs and handballs. I wouldn't play him ahead of Wallis or Clay, as their foot skills are better. Don't think we need another player who can't kick well in our midfield.

 

[immortalmike]

I think he's better than those two. He'd get in over Dunkley also.

I don't on Wallis. He'd get a game over Dunkley for the time being but I doubt that'd last long.

 

[Hard Ball Get]

If he was at Sydney or Hawthorn right now, he'd be elite. It's hard for kids like him in the environment he's in. Little support and huge expectations.

 

[gangsta deluxe]

Dont agree with your opinion MoC (think Wines is a gun, and would be equal third with Macrae in terms of our mids if with us) but their reaction to you was ******* pathetic. Had no intention of engaging with your point at all.

 

[Yojimbo]

Oliver Wines

Games - 84, Kicks - 877, Handballs - 1077, Disposals - 1954,
Marks - 249, Goals - 37, Behinds - 38, Tackles - 413,
Hit Outs - 173, Frees For - 95, Frees Against - 81,
Brownlow Votes - 23.

Contested Poss - 957, Uncontested Poss - 997,
Effective Disposals - 1,235, Disposal Efficiency - 63.2 %,
Clangers - 280, Contested Marks - 24, Goal Assists- 54,
Inside 50's - 302, Marks Inside 50 - 34, Clearances - 403,
Rebound 50's - 91, One Percenters - 88, Bounces - 13.

His 11 Brownlow votes in 2016 was only bettered by
Marcus Bontempelli and Lachlan Hunter.

 

[ManOfClay]

Just throwing out numbers doesn't really cut it in my books. To me Wines is too slow and his skills don't make up for it

 

[hutchy31]

Agreed. May of won premiership but seems like there are lots of areas he wants to tweak and improve. The SWAT part

Did Robbo really write an article that quoted Bevo on SWOT analysis, where it then lists what it stands for (strengths, weaknesses, opportunities and threats) - and called it SWAT?

It may be pedantic, but that's ******* awful from a journalist and then missed by an editor.

 

[ManOfClay]

Dont agree with your opinion MoC (think Wines is a gun, and would be equal third with Macrae in terms of our mids if with us) but their reaction to you was ******* pathetic. Had no intention of engaging with your point at all.

The only somewhat attempt to address it was pointing out Caleb Daniel is built like a toddler but gets games.

Missing the whole point about skills.

 

[BRWB]

Wines is a bloody good player who'd walk into our team IMO. Much as I love Smith and Dunkley, he kills them. He's done it better for longer than Wallis as well IMO.

Given their draft positions the Macrae comparison is interesting. As a biased Dogs fan I've always rated Macrae marginally ahead of Wines and think that tiny gap widened a little last year.

Wines is a butchering beast. But being a ball butcher hasn't stopped Dangerfield from being rated by many as the best in the league. So I can see why many rate Wines highly. I don't rate him as much as some, as I mark ball butchers like Wines and Danger (and Boyd the mid) harder than many - but that's more a personal preference.

 

[Northern Dogs]

See Joel Selwood got pinged for speeding and lost his licence for a month. Any truth in the rumour that he ducked his head below the steering wheel in an attempt to avoid detection??

 

[BRWB]

See Joel Selwood got pinged for speeding and lost his licence for a month. Any truth in the rumour that he ducked his head below the steering wheel in an attempt to avoid detection??

You'd imagine Joel would have been instructing the police on how to write out a ticket whilst pointing them at other cars.

 

[Bemoreboyddog]

Skipped dogs family day to go to Carlton vs Dees. Would have gone to dogs if it was intra-club.

This place is packed!

 

[Dav1d]

Skipped dogs family day to go to Carlton vs Dees. Would have gone to dogs if it was intra-club.

This place is packed!

Traitor

 

[compact72]

Traitor

#banvd

 

[Bemoreboyddog]

Give me footy over laps. That, and at least an extra hour in travel time.

I'm confident Dees will play finals this year. If they can get some polish/class in the midfield, look out.

 

[jdz101]

I can't rate Wines as an elite midfield player with sub 60% disposal effiency...especially with his level of handballs.

His kicking really lets his awesome contested game down.

 

[Bemoreboyddog]

Pure Gawn dominance. I'm putting him in my SuperCoach team now.

 

[Dav1d]

Pure Gawn dominance. I'm putting him in my SuperCoach team now.

I'm tempted to put Stefan Martin in mine
I think the rule changes might benefit him

 

[Substance]

Pity we only play Carlton once.

 

[Freshwater]

Wines is a bloody good player who'd walk into our team IMO. Much as I love Smith and Dunkley, he kills them. He's done it better for longer than Wallis as well IMO.

Given their draft positions the Macrae comparison is interesting. As a biased Dogs fan I've always rated Macrae marginally ahead of Wines and think that tiny gap widened a little last year.

Wines is a butchering beast. But being a ball butcher hasn't stopped Dangerfield from being rated by many as the best in the league. So I can see why many rate Wines highly. I don't rate him as much as some, as I mark ball butchers like Wines and Danger (and Boyd the mid) harder than many - but that's more a personal preference.

Gets me thinking that in a few years McCrae could be as good as Danger. McCrae is the same size and when he gets stronger he could do anything. It took Danger 8-9 years before he became the best in the league.