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As am I. I don't like free agency in the first place but if you're going to implement it you can't have teams getting compensation - especially when it's partially calculated by the length/size of the contract. The freed up space in the salary cap is your reward.
Will that still be your view when they change the qualifying period to something like 5 years and the rich clubs pillage us of the likes of Hrovat, Bonti and Stringer?

It could happen.
 

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Its funny because if Macca was our coach in 2009, we'd probably have selected Fyfe over Howard :(:(:(


Imagine lining up on Fyfe, Bonts, Macrae and Stringer. Good ******* luck!
So long as he's under instruction to handpass to any of the other three and only kick it as a last resort.
His first three quarters worse by foot than any I've seen from Boyd. Can find the ball though.
 

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As am I. I don't like free agency in the first place but if you're going to implement it you can't have teams getting compensation - especially when it's partially calculated by the length/size of the contract. The freed up space in the salary cap is your reward.
Our free agency is a joke - there should be no compensation and each club should have the right to trade a player to any other team after a minimum qualifying period - that would even up the playing field.
 
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Will that still be your view when they change the qualifying period to something like 5 years and the rich clubs pillage us of the likes of Hrovat, Bonti and Stringer?

It could happen.
Yes, that will still be my view - but highlights why I hate FA in the first place. There are so many inequalities in the system that they need to fix. I just don't like the idea of a team getting compensation for a player they couldn't keep. Melbourne probably won't be able to keep Frawley because of their long-term incompetence - so they're rewarded (while other clubs are disadvantaged) with a possible top-five pick. It doesn't sit right with me.
 

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Will that still be your view when they change the qualifying period to something like 5 years and the rich clubs pillage us of the likes of Hrovat, Bonti and Stringer?

It could happen.
Yep. As Dan said, I don't like the fact that clubs benefit for the inability to sign a player. I look at the Goddard case as an example. He wasn't asking for that much money, Saints could easily afford it and he was one of their best players, certainly not on the fringe and wasn't keeping any young players out, yet the Saints get rewarded with a first round pick and extra salary cap for what I see is essentially de-listing a player. Obviously their are other examples like Buddy where Hawthorn want to keep him but couldn't possibly match the contract and perhaps they'd be unfortunate to not get any compensation but thats just the way I see it.

On the clubs pillaging us, could happen sure but I'd like to think our club is compenant enough to keep our most important assets. Highlights the need to re-sign players early and draft "good people". ;)
 

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player movement and list management is still waaay too regulated for mine. some things i'd like to see.

Draft Lotto - bottom five teams, each with 20% chance of winning. talent usually evens out from about pick 4 or so, so the team that's finishing 6th last (like us) has less incentive to tank the final 5 games to scrape into the lotto. the bottom team has no dis-incentive to win the last 5 games.

Compo / Priority Picks - get rid of them.

Trading Future Picks - this is a no-brainer. it gives clubs more chips with which to equalise trades, allowing easier player movement.eg - we might have traded P4 (2013), wood, and P5 (2014), P22 (2014) for patton, mid round compo pick (2014), second rounder (2014). more equitable deals get done, more often.

Free Agency - i'd love for players to be RFAs at 4 years, UFAs at 6 years. i'd crying many tears in my weetbix if macrae left in two years time - but we might be able to replace him with a sam reid. or harley bennell. if small clubs can't run a tight ship, they'll lose players and deservedly so. Include a mid-season FA period over bye week (see below).

Contract Flexibility - team options and player options for extra seasons or early terminations. Might allow clubs to look at players with injury history (Cam Conlon), competition for places (Ryan O'Keefe) or inconsistent form (Jarrad Grant) and give them more of a chance. Allow contracts with mid-season end dates or terminations co-inciding with a FA week. Imagine this year that Jake Carlise used a player option to opt out of his essendon contract 6 months early and test FA in the mid-year FA period. We pick up Carlise, the Dons add O'Keefe. The Lions sign ruckman from a state league.

anyway...i needed to get that off my chest. it's been brewing for a while.
 

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I'm for Free Agent compensation for a little while - until player movement becomes more common.
Our Free Agency is not like American sports where you can lose a free agent and then have enough room to get a free agent to replace him.
Once the FA rules are relaxed, or players are just simply more willing to leave, than we can scrap compensation. But as a player leaving on FA is still relatively uncommon, then we still need compensation.
I'd be looking at scrapping or at least reducing compensation at within 3-5 years, or when they relax FA rules.
 

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I just took a quick look at the merchandize on the Bombers site.

I especially like the line of products that they have for sale encouraging their supporters to "Don the Sash."

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I would have gone with Hide the Stash but regardless I Approve
 

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Will the week-after-playing-the WB curse strike again?
richmond have been cursed pretty much all year after losing to us :p

I think we physically wear out teams, as shown by the pressure applied on the AFL page
even though they put as much pressure back, so they have to work harder because we work hard
but aren't skilled/experienced enough to put teams away
 

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Oh how sweet is it when Essedon are being beaten? :p
Some nights you just can't lose ... because one team or another has to lose (or else neither wins).

Last night I was hoping for a Freo win because of my deep, ingrained, irrational hatred of anything Carlton. That was until Dav1d pointed out that a Carlton win would improve our prospects in the draft order. So I started hoping Carlton would win. Then they flashed over to Mick Malthouse fuming in the coaches box and I started supporting Freo again. Then they flashed over to Ross Lyon throwing his head back at a 50m penalty and I started supporting Carlton, but then I thought, ahh bugger the draft order and I my let instincts take over ...

"GO THE DOCKERS!!"
 

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Yeah, it's delightful. The round after that big dud Carlisle boots 8 against us and is paid marks the second he gets hands on the ball, he spends a night at the SCG running around like a headless chook.
 

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Yeah, it's delightful. The round after that big dud Carlisle boots 8 against us and is paid marks the second he gets hands on the ball, he spends a night at the SCG running around like a headless chook.
He also missed a basic set shot. The bugger rarely missed against us.
 
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