Opinion Non-Crows AFL 13: Offseason

[latinoheat]

Rumour that Voss has been sacked

 

[cleanhands]

Rumour that Voss has been sacked

Spec rumours lies

 

[Samcro24]

We might not be required to beat any of those teams away to win a flag....?

That old saying. Anyone, anywhere.
Are we that team? Results to me suggest not quite. We’ll see.

 

[adelaidecrows]

That old saying. Anyone, anywhere.
Are we that team? Results to me suggest not quite. We’ll see.

Thats the mantra of any good team. I think we are close. The players have belief and honestly if we went to Geelong this weekend, id back us in to win. And Geelong really is the last frontier for us. The advantage we have in the finals is that the players have no weight of expectation and arent carrying demons of poor past finals results.

 

[footy4ever]

That Collingwood side is really only missing Hill from their 22 who likely is back in next week.....

We are gonna to get the strongest Collingwood outfit of the whole year next week.

Apparently we scored the strongest Hawks side also.

 

[Geoffa32]

Apparently we scored the strongest Hawks side also.

It was.

 

[MRB37]

 

[footy4ever]

This is gonna sound strange but I think the path to a GF is easier from 2nd place than it is from 1st if there isn't a straight sets loss from the 4

2nd place plays 3rd first at home, they win straight through to the preliminary final in the preliminary they play a weaker team than they did in the qualifying final 4th or 5th

1st upon beating 4th likely play 3rd in a prelim a harder or if 3rd upset 2nd in the Qualifying final then it's 1 v 2 to make the Grand final.

Love to know the stats on how often 3rd beats 2nd compared with 4th beating 1st.

Also I think if we don't finish top two, playing Geelong at the MCG in a qualifying final is probably still a good result, if we win great home preliminary final but we get an extra game at the MCG which would help us to believe even more that we are ready.

Not as strange as first thought. If 1 and 2 win first week as 'expected' and 3 and 4 win through to the PF then 1v3 and 2v4 in those preliminaries. Position 2 gets the 'weaker' opposition. How often has that happened though? I wonder haha.

Numbers-wise it makes sense to finish 2nd but this year the teams are so even from the top down to 9 I don't think it matters which team you play, but - (understatement) it certainly matters if you're playing on your home deck so finishing as high as possible is the go.

Tonight? - even though I hate them second only to Port, Ima barracking for Hawks.

However, how lovely it would be to see hawks drop out of the 8, or Collingwood to drop out of the top 4? A loss tonight could send either team on that path. Delicious, I might add. So now I'm TORN.

 

[Coopers]

That Collingwood side is really only missing Hill from their 22 who likely is back in next week.....

We are gonna to get the strongest Collingwood outfit of the whole year next week.

Gooooood. Crush them. Crush their best team. Demoralize them.

 

[WetCrow1991]

Will be nice to break the Collingwood hoodoo pee finals though

We’ve got a lot of monkeys off or back this year

Wins against top sides
Win at the mcg
Wins away against top sides
Hawks we’d had a poor recent record against us

1 less mental burden to the into
Finals (although this group I think is mentallly strong so probably means nothing to them and it’s more outside noise)

Hawks recent record is more like 15 years. 6-16 since 2010. Only beaten them once at Adelaide Oval, in 2020, which barely counts. It was a gorilla off the back.

 

[cmndstab]

What’s interesting here and im
Not sure if this is Normal is where these players are coming from from.

Dominated by the contending sides and poorly represented by developing teams

Top 9= 29
Bottom 9= 11

Would be interesting to see past year trends but wonder if in a season where the gap from top 9 to the rest is bigger than ever is this not a ominous sign for the future of those struggling teams?

I think it's just easier to stand out as a junior in a good team.

The likes of Harley Reid who can just walk into a non-functional side and dominate are rare as hen's teeth. Most of the time when a young kid comes into a bottom side, they are asked to take on a larger burden than they should against seasoned AFL players.

 

[Bovo]

Rumour that Voss has been sacked

Did this rumor start just now, in this thread? Seems authentic. I’ll post it on the Carlton board. They’ll love me!

 

[PeterSalt]

Did this rumor start just now, in this thread? Seems authentic. I’ll post it on the Carlton board. They’ll love me!

They know, it's been going on since their boards 5 hour meeting yesterday

 

[Geoffa32]

Did this rumor start just now, in this thread? Seems authentic. I’ll post it on the Carlton board. They’ll love me!

C4 posted on Port Board it was ratified last night.

 

[ams4crows]

What’s interesting here and im
Not sure if this is Normal is where these players are coming from from.

Dominated by the contending sides and poorly represented by developing teams

Top 9= 29
Bottom 9= 11

Would be interesting to see past year trends but wonder if in a season where the gap from top 9 to the rest is bigger than ever is this not a ominous sign for the future of those struggling teams?

Ade 4
Coll 2
Bris 5
Geel 3
GC 3 (bumped up because of game in hand)
Freo 2
Haw 4
GWS 3
Dogs 3

Syd 0
Port 1
Melb 1
Carl 0
Stk 2
Ess 2
Rich 1
NM 3
WC 1

This also tells me North's list management needs work if they have 3 of the best players under 22 and still anchored to the bottom

 

[GreyCrow]

Carlton need/ed to move quick

With Melbourne gaining front runner status the next best coach will be in demand

Voss was gone ( I feel) at seasons end - this just speeds up the process to get the next hire in

 

[TRP1996]

It is a notable difference between us and our top 4 competitors. How often would the last 3 premiers be in the top 4 together in the 4th season? Feels like it would be a bit of a rarity.

2014 - Hawks (13), Swans (12), Cats (11)?

The same three were all also top 4 in 2016, at which point they were still the three most recent premiers (technically in 2016 Hawthorn alone were ‘the last three premiers’).

 

[FR0GGY]

C4 posted on Port Board it was ratified last night.

Why post it on the port board?

 

[GreyCrow]

2 games that could make the difference in tipping comps around Australia

Hawthorn v Collingwood

I am still undecided on this one. Hawks played well for much of the game last week and without Tex probably sneak the win. Collingwood comprehensively beaten by Brisbane are harder to assess. Is it tapering is it form is it the downswing?

Day out is big for Hawks

Port v Freo

What! Really? Yes really. Home game for Port their season winding down - and while they still have 1 more home game I feel this is the one they may set themselves for . The Battle of the Baby Brothers - The Wharfie Cup

Freo should start favourites but I can be convinced Port win this

All the rest should play out as expected though Richmond might surprise

 

[Cromulant]

That old saying. Anyone, anywhere.
Are we that team? Results to me suggest not quite. We’ll see.

What would it take for you to believe ??

 

[Cromulant]

2 games that could make the difference in tipping comps around Australia

Hawthorn v Collingwood

I am still undecided on this one. Hawks played well for much of the game last week and without Tex probably sneak the win. Collingwood comprehensively beaten by Brisbane are harder to assess. Is it tapering is it form is it the downswing?

Day out is big for Hawks

Port v Freo

What! Really? Yes really. Home game for Port their season winding down - and while they still have 1 more home game I feel this is the one they may set themselves for . The Battle of the Baby Brothers - The Wharfie Cup

Freo should start favourites but I can be convinced Port win this

All the rest should play out as expected though Richmond might surprise

Freo havent beaten Port at AO I dont think

 

[SugarShane]

Hawks recent record is more like 15 years. 6-16 since 2010. Only beaten them once at Adelaide Oval, in 2020, which barely counts. It was a gorilla off the back.

As someone pointed out a few weeks ago, the 2020 win was also technically an "away" game. A very pedantic distinction, but until last week we'd never beaten Hawthorn in a home game at Adelaide Oval.

 

[AFC979810]

I think it's just easier to stand out as a junior in a good team.

The likes of Harley Reid who can just walk into a non-functional side and dominate are rare as hen's teeth. Most of the time when a young kid comes into a bottom side, they are asked to take on a larger burden than they should against seasoned AFL players.

I love Curtin, but if you offered me Reid for Curtin right now I wouldn't hesitate to take Reid.

Reid would be so dominant alongside Dawson, Rankine, Peatling and Soligo.

 

[Viva la Mattner]

I love Curtin, but if you offered me Reid for Curtin right now I wouldn't hesitate to take Reid.

Reid would be so dominant alongside Dawson, Rankine, Peatling and Soligo.

Pass

Reid comes across a petulant child, lacks maturity of DC

Can see him being the new Goddard mould of #1 pick.

Flashy, can be elite but mostly mouths off and comes across a flog

 

[Cromulant]

I love Curtin, but if you offered me Reid for Curtin right now I wouldn't hesitate to take Reid.

Reid would be so dominant alongside Dawson, Rankine, Peatling and Soligo.

Like Curtin will be ??