Oppo Camp Non Eagles Discussion Thread

[bassmanx]

I thought Gaff would be our first 300 gamers but as I understand it he wants to go back to Vic at the end of the year.

Struggling to see a 300 gamers for us in the next decade let alone a 350 gamer. Never liked Pav but well done on 350 games.

Unlike. Please show yourself out.

 

[Matele]

It's like going on Reddit.

I vehemently disagree

 

[RookiePick]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-07-19/gach-nyuon-expected-to-be-charged-with-threats-to-kill

I wonder if we can draft the uber driver. Obviously has a big heart and a bit of fight about him.

 

[WCErevival]

http://www.watoday.com.au/afl/west-...s-v-the-best-ever-eagles-20160706-gpzphf.html

Kim Hagdorn's best-ever Fremantle team:
Backs: Dale Kickett, Stephen O'Reilly, Shane Parker.
Half-Backs: Michael Johnson, Luke McPharlin, Troy Cook.
Centres: Stephen Hill, David Mundy, Shaun McManus.
Half-Forwards: Paul Hasleby, Matthew Pavlich, Jeff Farmer.
Forwards: Justin Longmuir, Tony Modra, Hayden Ballantyne.
Ruck: Aaron Sandilands, Nat Fyfe, Peter Bell.
Interchange: Peter Mann, Michael Walters, Adrian Fletcher, Ben Allan.
Near Misses: Ryan Crowley, Jason Norrish and Clive Waterhouse.


Kim Hagdorn's best-ever Eagles:
Backs: Ashley McIntosh, Darren Glass, David Wirrpanda.
Half-Backs: John Worsfold, Glen Jakovich, Guy McKenna.
Centres: Peter Matera, Dean Kemp, Chris Mainwaring.
Half-Forwards: Daniel Kerr, Josh Kennedy, Chris Lewis.
Forwards: Phil Matera, Peter Sumich, Brett Heady.
Ruck: Dean Cox, Chris Judd, Ben Cousins.
Interchange: Matt Priddis, Andrew Embley, Michael Gardiner, Dwayne Lamb.
Near misses: Mark LeCras, Don Pyke, Drew Banfield.


Thoughts on who would win?

Surely Freo have someone better than McManus for the wing

 

[La Dolce Vita]

http://www.watoday.com.au/afl/west-...s-v-the-best-ever-eagles-20160706-gpzphf.html

Kim Hagdorn's best-ever Fremantle team:
Backs: Dale Kickett, Stephen O'Reilly, Shane Parker.
Half-Backs: Michael Johnson, Luke McPharlin, Troy Cook.
Centres: Stephen Hill, David Mundy, Shaun McManus.
Half-Forwards: Paul Hasleby, Matthew Pavlich, Jeff Farmer.
Forwards: Justin Longmuir, Tony Modra, Hayden Ballantyne.
Ruck: Aaron Sandilands, Nat Fyfe, Peter Bell.
Interchange: Peter Mann, Michael Walters, Adrian Fletcher, Ben Allan.
Near Misses: Ryan Crowley, Jason Norrish and Clive Waterhouse.


Kim Hagdorn's best-ever Eagles:
Backs: Ashley McIntosh, Darren Glass, David Wirrpanda.
Half-Backs: John Worsfold, Glen Jakovich, Guy McKenna.
Centres: Peter Matera, Dean Kemp, Chris Mainwaring.
Half-Forwards: Daniel Kerr, Josh Kennedy, Chris Lewis.
Forwards: Phil Matera, Peter Sumich, Brett Heady.
Ruck: Dean Cox, Chris Judd, Ben Cousins.
Interchange: Matt Priddis, Andrew Embley, Michael Gardiner, Dwayne Lamb.
Near misses: Mark LeCras, Don Pyke, Drew Banfield.


Thoughts on who would win?

That freo side is embarrassing

us by a 100



by half time

 

[truman]

http://www.watoday.com.au/afl/west-...s-v-the-best-ever-eagles-20160706-gpzphf.html

Kim Hagdorn's best-ever Fremantle team:
Backs: Dale Kickett, Stephen O'Reilly, Shane Parker.
Half-Backs: Michael Johnson, Luke McPharlin, Troy Cook.
Centres: Stephen Hill, David Mundy, Shaun McManus.
Half-Forwards: Paul Hasleby, Matthew Pavlich, Jeff Farmer.
Forwards: Justin Longmuir, Tony Modra, Hayden Ballantyne.
Ruck: Aaron Sandilands, Nat Fyfe, Peter Bell.
Interchange: Peter Mann, Michael Walters, Adrian Fletcher, Ben Allan.
Near Misses: Ryan Crowley, Jason Norrish and Clive Waterhouse.


Kim Hagdorn's best-ever Eagles:
Backs: Ashley McIntosh, Darren Glass, David Wirrpanda.
Half-Backs: John Worsfold, Glen Jakovich, Guy McKenna.
Centres: Peter Matera, Dean Kemp, Chris Mainwaring.
Half-Forwards: Daniel Kerr, Josh Kennedy, Chris Lewis.
Forwards: Phil Matera, Peter Sumich, Brett Heady.
Ruck: Dean Cox, Chris Judd, Ben Cousins.
Interchange: Matt Priddis, Andrew Embley, Michael Gardiner, Dwayne Lamb.
Near misses: Mark LeCras, Don Pyke, Drew Banfield.


Thoughts on who would win?

Surely Nic Nat in that team, imagine him tapping it down to that midfield

 

[kane249]

Surely Nic Nat in that team, imagine him tapping it down to that midfield

I agree, was a better ruck than Gardiner but Gardiner was no slouch either.

 

[wraglesweb]

Talk of Walters to GWS McCarthy to Fremantle. GWS would be rubbing their hands together if that happens

 

[The_Eagles]

As much as I give Pav shit for playing at Shitmantle, I have a tonne of respect for him. 350 games at one of the most mediocre clubs going around. Only played in 1 finals match up to 2010, which they lost to Essendon. Lots of players would've looked for success elsewhere, but he stayed at Freo and didn't take the go home offer early in his career. He decided to spend his career bringing success to Freo, rather than chasing success at Hawthorn or Sydney, and after the Durant (biggest campaigner) thing in the NBA, my respect for anyone who doesn't jump ship has tenfolded.

I sound like a freagle, but the bloke is a champ. Well done.

What? The Dockers played in a prelim in 2006

 

[The_Eagles]

Talk of Walters to GWS McCarthy to Fremantle. GWS would be rubbing their hands together if that happens

No way they would do that. I bet it ends up a third rounder and Mayne or something

 

[wraglesweb]

No way they would do that. I bet it ends up a third rounder and Mayne or something

GWS are after a small forward. Might be a pick back to Freo or something

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Walters is one of Freo's very few untouchable players.

 

[wraglesweb]

Walters is one of Freo's very few untouchable players.

Has been reported by Callum Twomey, that he could be part of the McCarthy deal,

 

[Quinz]

Walters is one of Freo's very few untouchable players.

Because he always falls over at the slightest contact?

 

[Biggie]

How have our purple friends reacted to this claim?

Well I hope.

 

[Keys]

How have our purple friends reacted to this claim?

Well I hope.

Calling bullshit and bitching about GWS ruining McCarthy

Also claiming that their forward line saviour is only worth a 3rd round pick

**** I hope GWS refuse to trade again

 

[wraglesweb]

Would be stupid if Freo did do it more than likely GWS just asked about him, I'm sure Freo wouldn't give him up

 

[Back One Out]

Kim Hagdorn's best-ever Eagles:
Half-Forwards: Daniel Kerr, Josh Kennedy, Chris Lewis.
Forwards: Phil Matera, Peter Sumich, Brett Heady.
Ruck: Dean Cox, Chris Judd, Ben Cousins.
Interchange: Matt Priddis, Andrew Embley, Michael Gardiner, Dwayne Lamb.
Near misses: Mark LeCras, Don Pyke, Drew Banfield.

Brett Heady was a classy half forward and had a terrific year in 1991, but he wasn't better than Mark LeCras. People tend to romanticise the ex-premiership stars. LeCras kicked a stack of goals for some shitty Eagles teams during his peak years as a forward target. He made the All Australian team in 2010 (robbed in 2009). Heady was never All Australian.

LeCras has been an underrated gun player. More consistent and more durable than Heady was.
He also has more strings to his bow. He can play midfield, half forward or full forward.


Heady
20yo, 1990, 20 games, 374 disp (18.7), 24 goals (1.20)
21yo, 1991, 26 games, 450 disp (17.3), 47 goals (1.81)
22yo, 1992, 11 games, 164 disp (14.9), 20 goals (1.82)
23yo, 1993, 19 games, 282 disp (14.8), 24 goals (1.26)
24yo, 1994, 21 games, 233 disp (11.1), 44 goals (2.10)
25yo, 1995, 15 games, 160 disp (10.7), 30 goals (2.00)
26yo, 1996, _7 games, 109 disp (15.6), _4 goals (0.57)
27yo, 1997, 21 games, 370 disp (17.6), 23 goals (1.10)
28yo, 1998, 15 games, 188 disp (12.5), 21 goals (1.40)
29yo, 1999, _1 game, ___1 disp _(1.0), _0 goals (0.00)

Total: ____156 games, 2331 disp (14.9), 237 goals (1.52)


LeCras
18yo, 2005, _2 games, _13 disp _(6.5), _2 goals (1.00)
19yo, 2006, _4 games, _35 disp _(8.8), _5 goals (1.25)
20yo, 2007, 19 games, 179 disp _(9.4), 36 goals (1.89)
21yo, 2008, 11 games, 115 disp (10.5), 23 goals (2.09)
22yo, 2009, 21 games, 292 disp (13.9), 58 goals (2.76)
23yo, 2010, 21 games, 286 disp (13.6), 63 goals (3.00)
24yo, 2011, 22 games, 358 disp (16.3), 47 goals (2.14)
25yo, 2013, 15 games, 237 disp (15.8), 30 goals (2.00)
26yo, 2014, 15 games, 272 disp (18.1), 30 goals (2.00)
27yo, 2015, 24 games, 440 disp (18.3), 45 goals (1.88)
28yo, 2016, 16 games, 262 disp (16.4), 28 goals (1.75)

Total: ____170 games, 2489 disp (14.6), 367 goals (2.16)

 

[MIKE85]

Heady also had to compete in a forward line with the likes of sumich at his peak, and to a lesser extent Gehrig for a few years. Those days it was much more key forward centric, so a smaller spread of goal kickers compared to the modern day forward lines. Lecras played as one of the key targets for a fair chunk of time, in a shit team, with little to no pressure. Heady stood up in finals, in grand finals, in a time where we were the hunted, an he still performed.

I like lecras, he's been a great player for us, but I'd still have heady ahead of him just for his ability to perform when needed, which unfortunately lecras hasn't always done.

You are correct though about people romanticising premiership players, we all do it, and time makes it even greater!

 

[Matera92]

http://www.watoday.com.au/afl/west-...s-v-the-best-ever-eagles-20160706-gpzphf.html

Kim Hagdorn's best-ever Fremantle team:
Backs: Dale Kickett, Stephen O'Reilly, Shane Parker.
Half-Backs: Michael Johnson, Luke McPharlin, Troy Cook.
Centres: Stephen Hill, David Mundy, Shaun McManus.
Half-Forwards: Paul Hasleby, Matthew Pavlich, Jeff Farmer.
Forwards: Justin Longmuir, Tony Modra, Hayden Ballantyne.
Ruck: Aaron Sandilands, Nat Fyfe, Peter Bell.
Interchange: Peter Mann, Michael Walters, Adrian Fletcher, Ben Allan.
Near Misses: Ryan Crowley, Jason Norrish and Clive Waterhouse.


Kim Hagdorn's best-ever Eagles:
Backs: Ashley McIntosh, Darren Glass, David Wirrpanda.
Half-Backs: John Worsfold, Glen Jakovich, Guy McKenna.
Centres: Peter Matera, Dean Kemp, Chris Mainwaring.
Half-Forwards: Daniel Kerr, Josh Kennedy, Chris Lewis.
Forwards: Phil Matera, Peter Sumich, Brett Heady.
Ruck: Dean Cox, Chris Judd, Ben Cousins.
Interchange: Matt Priddis, Andrew Embley, Michael Gardiner, Dwayne Lamb.
Near misses: Mark LeCras, Don Pyke, Drew Banfield.


Thoughts on who would win?

Lol would they even kick a goal?

Not a single winner on any line for them.

 

[RookiePick]

Mike beat me to the punch but anyhoo...

How did Heady go compared to other Half forwards of his time? The era was much more dominated by the full forward being the focal point - in our case Suma and lower possession totals in general.

I may have my rose tinted glasses on but I remember Heady as more of a big match player than Lecca in general.
4 goals in the 91 grannie, 6 goals in the 94 prelim and leading WC goal scorer in the 94 qualifying final vs Collingwood that we won by 2 points.

Plus Heady took some screamers. Gotta love the lads who fly

 

[ioppolo]

What? The Dockers played in a prelim in 2006

Completely forgot about that, had other things on my mind that finals series.

 

[DanWCE]

Talk of Walters to GWS McCarthy to Fremantle. GWS would be rubbing their hands together if that happens

I doubt that will happen. Has a young family, they've just bought a new house near their investment property and seem very settled in their neighbourhood. Can't imagine Freo will unload one of the only players they have who can kick goals when its their biggest deficiency.

 

[Yamumluvsbigcox]

Gws just sticking it up freo by targeting a contracted player . Love it some quality melts by the purples

 

[kane249]

McCarthy will go for a second rounder IMO

Where Freo get that second rounder is the big question as they gave that up for Bennell.