Oppo Camp Non-Eagles Discussion

[Chief]

Continued in Part 2:

Oppo Camp - Non-Eagles Discussion

Who gives a **** about finals anyway So overrated It’s all about the draft these days

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[kane249]

 

[Avalor]

WHAT A LAUGH! So funny!

 

[Byron_Clanger]

I'm HOWLING. Carlton have won more games in 11 games than we have in our last 40 and their club is imploding while our club is just straight chilling and offering Simmo time off at the end of the season. A stable club is a good club. We'll get through it, and when we do Carlton would've gone through another three coaches and 10 board members/CEO's.

 

[ziad]

I'm HOWLING. Carlton have won more games in 11 games than we have in our last 40 and their club is imploding while our club is just straight chilling and offering Simmo time off at the end of the season. A stable club is a good club. We'll get through it, and when we do Carlton would've gone through another three coaches and 10 board members/CEO's.

Where was wandering nut job down in the rooms with a microphone when you need him

 

[FKASC]

A stale club is a good club.

is it though?

 

[kane249]

I'm HOWLING. Carlton have won more games in 11 games than we have in our last 40 and their club is imploding while our club is just straight chilling and offering Simmo time off at the end of the season. A stable club is a good club. We'll get through it, and when we do Carlton would've gone through another three coaches and 10 board members/CEO's.

It's coming up to 30 years since their last flag (tainted by suspected salary cap breaches) and they've won 4 spoons since then.

Amazing how it's not so easy to win flags when you have those pesky things called a salary cap and draft.

 

[Dylan82]

Hmmm... compare the pair - one gets one week, the other no case to answer...








Oh, that's right, the suspended one isn't playing for a Victorian club - carry on then.

 

[Rowan18]

Hmmm... compare the pair - one gets one week, the other no case to answer...








Oh, that's right, the suspended one isn't playing for a Victorian club - carry on then.

Both players are grubs and deserve a ban.

 

[KERRPOW]

Hmmm... compare the pair - one gets one week, the other no case to answer...








Oh, that's right, the suspended one isn't playing for a Victorian club - carry on then.

The out for dangerflog is that theball is right there

 

[Natho]

I won't lie, I thought that was Andrew Gaff for a split second.

His performances have been criminal

 

[Ochre]

Hmmm... compare the pair - one gets one week, the other no case to answer...

That's normally what happens when two incidents are very, very different.

 

[Farang83150]

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[Goroyals22]

Listening to Healey and Cornes tonight on the radio with the champion data guy… there’s a wingman who is having the best season by a wingman since 2016.. Nic Martin ….if only he wasn’t right under our noses





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[Keys]

It’s all just become too hard for the AFL so they’ve just thrown their hands in the air and said **** it

The original complainants are left to take whatever alternative legal action they choose and the three men accused of racism (Clarkson, Fagan and Burt) aren’t to face charges but haven’t been exonerated either. Nobody has heard their version of events nor have they been given either an opportunity to clear their name or be required to explain their actions

Total balls up by the AFL and the only loose end from their perspective is this :

This agreement does not preclude the AFL from bringing a charge under AFL Rules against Hawthorn FC with respect to the commissioning and oversight of the Binmada Report.

Expect the AFL to find that just like Melbourne didn’t tank and Essendon didn’t provide PEDs to their players, Hawthorn didn’t racially vilify the complainants but they’ll be fined for it by some other name - probably bringing the game into disrepute

And they’ll move on like nothing ever happened

 

[KERRPOW]

 

[Bender_]

Either Fagan is 4 foot 3 or they couldn't find a single photo of them standing next to each other in their Hawthorn days.

 

[briztoon]

Either Fagan is 4 foot 3 or they couldn't find a single photo of them standing next to each other in their Hawthorn days.

5'4".

 

[ziad]

It’s all just become too hard for the AFL so they’ve just thrown their hands in the air and said * it

The original complainants are left to take whatever alternative legal action they choose and the three men accused of racism (Clarkson, Fagan and Burt) aren’t to face charges but haven’t been exonerated either. Nobody has heard their version of events nor have they been given either an opportunity to clear their name or be required to explain their actions

Total balls up by the AFL and the only loose end from their perspective is this :



Expect the AFL to find that just like Melbourne didn’t tank and Essendon didn’t provide PEDs to their players, Hawthorn didn’t racially vilify the complainants but they’ll be fined for it by some other name - probably bringing the game into disrepute

And they’ll move on like nothing ever happened

Out of the Melbourne didnt tank play book. This may not go away though.

 

[Rowan18]

It’s all just become too hard for the AFL so they’ve just thrown their hands in the air and said * it

The original complainants are left to take whatever alternative legal action they choose and the three men accused of racism (Clarkson, Fagan and Burt) aren’t to face charges but haven’t been exonerated either. Nobody has heard their version of events nor have they been given either an opportunity to clear their name or be required to explain their actions

Total balls up by the AFL and the only loose end from their perspective is this :



Expect the AFL to find that just like Melbourne didn’t tank and Essendon didn’t provide PEDs to their players, Hawthorn didn’t racially vilify the complainants but they’ll be fined for it by some other name - probably bringing the game into disrepute

And they’ll move on like nothing ever happened

I think lot of blame needs to be directed at the people appointed to the panel who were completely inept at running the process. I hope the AFL has refused to pay them.

The ABC should also have a good think about how them leaking the report messed with things as well.

 

[Keys]

I think lot of blame needs to be directed at the people appointed to the panel who were completely inept at running the process. I hope the AFL has refused to pay them.

The ABC should also have a good think about how them leaking the report messed with things as well.

Everything about it has been mismanaged. Hasn’t been handled at all well by anyone involved

 

[UseR2006]

Fages has issued a statement:

CHRIS FAGAN’S FULL STATEMENT

I refer to the public statement issued tonight by the AFL concerning the Hawthorn investigation.

The investigation has now been terminated, with the agreement of the complainants and the investigation panel. It is right that this should occur. It is long overdue.

I have maintained my public silence on the issues raised publicly because I was bound to confidentiality by the rules of the AFL investigation. It has been a very distressing several months for me since these allegations were first published by the ABC without the investigation that was conducted having asked for my version of events.

*I am innocent of any of the allegations made against me and always have been.

I have been in footy for a long time - most of my life. In that time I have had the interests of the welfare of my players as my foremost consideration. I have treated all players with equality and fairness.

I have always respected the tremendous contribution that First Nations people have made to our game and I respect them greatly. I always have. I always will. And I am conscious that this farce of a process cannot have been easy on those First Nations people who were complainants. Those whom I knew, I hold no grudges against and hold only a wish that whatever pain they are suffering can be healed over time.

The combination of the AFL investigation, the ABC article that was published making very serious allegations against me, and the leaks that have occurred to the press, have amounted to a travesty of justice. It has caused tremendous hurt to me those who care about me, and other people whom I know to be innocent of wrongdoing, such as Clarko and Jason Burt These are fine men and they have been publicly shamed by false allegations.

The complainants, the investigation panel and the AFL have agreed that no adverse findings have been made against me, Alastair Clarkson and Jason Burt, and that no charges will be brought against any of us under the AFL Rules. It has been further agreed by the complainants, the panel and the AFL that the matters the subject of the investigation will not be investigated further by the panel.

These matters are also fully justified. I have always categorically denied all of the allegations against me. The allegations are false. I am completely innocent. I have never deviated from that position as I knew from the beginning that the allegations were false. I have never had my chance to publicise my position on the allegations that the ABC chose to air publicly.

Prior to the agreement referred to above being reached, the documents held by Hawthorn that the complainants had refused to release to me were released to me, very recently, with their consent. Those same documents were in the possession of both the investigation panel and the AFL for consideration by those parties for a significant time prior to their release to me. I am bound by a confidentiality deed not to disclose the contents of the documents. But I can say that they support the categorical denials of the allegations against me that I have stated from the outset. I can also say that for my part, I would be completely happy for all of these documents to be made public.

I am happy for any of my conduct and any documents to be aired publicly in a public court or proper public process and let someone impartial decide what is true and what is false.

I am not a party to the agreement between the complainants, the investigation panel and the AFL. But I stand vindicated by it.

I have made no concessions. There are none to make. I have always vigorously defended myself, and will always do so, as I have done nothing wrong.

*I am proud of my record, built up over four decades, of nourishing not just the football careers but also the lives of the young people I have coached. This includes all of the First Nations players I have been fortunate enough to coach.

I have from the start received countless messages of support, including from very many First Nations players I coached at Hawthorn, Melbourne and now at the Brisbane Lions. I wish to take the opportunity to thank all of the people who have supported me. The investigation has taken a very damaging toll on my family and me, and the many people involved in the investigation.

I am glad that it has finally been brought to an end.

 

[Mop]

It's a powerful rebuttal, I'll give him that!

 

[DanWCE]

I can't imagine Fages pushing for those documents to be leaked if it sunk Clarko but it is a little curious they recently received copies of the documents/evidence and then Clarko stepped away and the Hawks CEO stepped down

 

[Truckosaurus]

Sorry Chris, it'll never really be over because the AFL bollocksed it so thoroughly and no one trusts a word they say.

 

[Keys]

I can't imagine Fages pushing for those documents to be leaked if it sunk Clarko but it is a little curious they recently received copies of the documents/evidence and then Clarko stepped away and the Hawks CEO stepped down

I haven’t been following this super closely but from what I had read, as late as last week I don’t think the defendants had been provided the documents. Fagan does say very recently in his statement so I think it’s fair to say Clarkson probably didn’t have the documents prior to stepping down