Opposition Camp Non-Essendon Football Thread XIII

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DapperJong

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You know the thing going through Goodwin's mind is almost certainly all of the negatives of Weideman's game and not the positives (which I would say are more significant).

Also, has Gawn given Grundy a bath today?
Gawn had 34 touches and 10 clearances. Monster game for any ruck. Didn’t really matter tho
 

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Howe decision a shocker, what are they doing to this game.
Duncan had one paid against him in the Adel v Gee game and I completely lost my ****. I expressed how it was against the spirit of our game, and how we will see one of the great marks taken and disallowed because of counter-intuitive umpire interpretations of new rules. Now it has happened twice I am of the belief that the AFL are deliberately trying to undermine our great game... either that or they are utterly clueless...

Surely, when it happened the first time, some wiser heads, who maybe once played the game, might’ve had a word to the powers that be and we might’ve had a little reinterpretation. But no, it seems there was nothing fundamentally wrong with that original decision... pffft... game’s rooted...
 

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I want to do a 22 of the players I can't believe play AFL.

Charlie Spargo would be the captain.

He cannot proactively impact a contest physically. All he can really do is the chase down tackle/fall on some players already on the ground.
He’s the new Trav Colyer. He’s so slight though. If he’s not in space he’s virtually useless.
 

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He’s the new Trav Colyer. He’s so slight though. If he’s not in space he’s virtually useless.


Sorry Runky but not even I can cop that criticism of Colyer.

Colyer's running power meant he belonged on an AFL list basically by default (there were games he turned almost playing a lone hand). He got his 7 years to work out how to handle and use the ball and, unfortunately for him, it just doesn't look like he can do it.

I cannot see why Spargo would be on an AFL list in 2018/2019. Unfair as it maybe, which I don't really care about because neither life nor professional sport is meant to be "fair" in that respect, he's far too small to be as slow as he is with no apparent dynamic aspect to his game. If people want to feel sorry for Spargo for being too small, feel sorry for McKernan or Cam Pederson who were too small to be AFL ruckmen who were and are twice the players of many AFL rucks who have played 200 games. Nick Meese is a Mark Jamar level ruck technician who never grew enough to be an AFL player.

If Spargo displayed some amazing talent as a junior I would have thought the smart thing would have been to wait to see how his game converted to playing against men before investing pick 29 in him. It's a very generous "this guy really deserves his shot" attitude to have taken to select him at all.

Dan Coghlan and Ben Duscher never made it to an AFL list. Kyle Martin was kicking 5 goals a week, getting the ball 30 to 40 times and was supposed to have had deficiencies in his game.

It blows my mind.
 
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Sorry Runky but not even I can cop that criticism of Colyer.

Colyer's running power meant he belonged on an AFL list basically by default (there were games he turned almost playing a lone hand). He got his 7 years to work out how to handle and use the ball and, unfortunately for him, it just doesn't look like he can do it.

I cannot see why Spargo would be on an AFL list in 2018/2019. Unfair as it maybe, which I don't really care about because neither life nor professional sport is meant to be "fair" in that respect, he's far too small to be as slow as he is with no apparent dynamic aspect to his game. If people want to feel sorry for Spargo for being too small, feel sorry for McKernan or Cam Pederson who were too small to be AFL ruckmen who were and are twice the players of many AFL rucks who have played 200 games. Nick Meese is a Mark Jamar level ruck technician who never grew enough to be an AFL player.

If Spargo displayed some amazing talent as a junior I would have thought the smart thing would have been to wait to see how his game converted to playing against men before investing pick 29 in him. It's a very generous "this guy really deserves his shot" attitude to have taken to select him at all.

Dan Coghlan and Ben Duscher never made it to an AFL list. Kyle Martin was kicking 5 goals a week, getting the ball 30 to 40 times and was supposed to have had deficiencies in his game.

It blows my mind.
Perfect! Well said.
 
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Pies really do have a wonderful mix with their smalls.

Got running power in absolute spades, Bloke who launch themselves into packs like scud missiles, breakaway speed and an element of poise, balance and class.

If Damo wants a sliding doors moment to look at how about Ryder poo pooing a move to Brisbane in 2014.

That goes through and Beams probably doesn’t get to Brisbane (at least that year), De Goey potentially ends up at Essendon and Collingwood don’t have enough trade ammo to get Crisp and Greenwood.
 

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Pies really do have a wonderful mix with their smalls.

Got running power in absolute spades, Bloke who launch themselves into packs like scud missiles, breakaway speed and an element of poise, balance and class.

If Damo wants a sliding doors moment to look at how about Ryder poo pooing a move to Brisbane in 2014.

That goes through and Beams probably doesn’t get to Brisbane (at least that year), De Goey potentially ends up at Essendon and Collingwood don’t have enough trade ammo to get Crisp and Greenwood.
Well he’d need to understand the whole concept of sliding doors first...
 

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Pies really do have a wonderful mix with their smalls.

Got running power in absolute spades, Bloke who launch themselves into packs like scud missiles, breakaway speed and an element of poise, balance and class.

If Damo wants a sliding doors moment to look at how about Ryder poo pooing a move to Brisbane in 2014.

That goes through and Beams probably doesn’t get to Brisbane (at least that year), De Goey potentially ends up at Essendon and Collingwood don’t have enough trade ammo to get Crisp and Greenwood.
You’re hired
 

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How wonderful was it to see Brad Green’s two boys running out with the Melbourne team and then giving their Dad a big hug and kiss. What a week or so they’ve endured. Football means nothing in the grand scheme of things but gee when it can put a smile on a kids face and help them forget their pain and loss even just for a moment, it’s everything.

Brought a tear to the eye.
 

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Geelong is the only good team this year. GWS second, but they're too mentally weak/injury riddled. Talent pool spreading out since GWS and GC has made lists very shallow.

Richmond and West Coast would have been an ordinary middle of the road 8-12 side. They're currently top 4 contenders.
Don’t rule out Collingwood just yet.
 

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Geez Richmond's percentage is getting crushed.

They are legitimately in danger of missing the eight, can't afford to drop a single game against opponents they should beat.
 

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I know he is listed at 190cm, but Cam Ellis-Yolmon legit looks like 194/195 at times. Huge. Hopefully he can stay injury free and ilk out a respectable 100 game career.


Think it's a pretty easy decision between O'Brien & Jacobs.
 

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I know he is listed at 190cm, but Cam Ellis-Yolmon legit looks like 194/195 at times. Huge. Hopefully he can stay injury free and ilk out a respectable 100 game career.


Think it's a pretty easy decision between O'Brien & Jacobs.

He looks like he should be a flanker on the NZ rugby side.

He's a redefinition of the term "unit".
 

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O’Brien is so delightfully old school. Everything about him is fundamentally sound and predictable as hell for the Adelaide mids, working wonderfully in tandem almost immediately. And they’ve got the runners to kill sides on the spread.

Richmond in big, big trouble. They’ve gone from top 3 in defending the transition last year to bottom 2 this year and just can’t stop sides scoring or hem them in. Their zone keeps getting scythed to bits and they’re struggling to generate scores because they base everything they do off time in forward half.

Love Stack, someone so raw, undercoached and instinct driven is such a breath of fresh air, meanwhile Jack Higgins is the new Rhys Palmer. Immediate impact is great, but he’s the finished product at 20.
 

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Stack is so clean with his play - Excellent ball handler, top class anticipation, decent kick and a hard edge - Definitely got a touch of silk in his play.
 
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