Opposition Camp Non-Essendon Football Thread XIV

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pepsi

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All of the major American sports have told USADA to take a long walk off a short pier and made their own PED policy.
Oh yeah the major American sports and major soccer leagues. Tell me how many athletes in those leagues get banned for a significant period? These leagues with more money invovled than every other have very low positives and bans, funny that.
 

Albertross

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Tampered with his sample by using a urine substitute. Knew he had something in his system and tried to cover it up. Silly Willie.

I thought that the testers watched you take a slash. If so, how did he think he could get away with it. Not much sympathy I'm afraid. Probably would have been a lesser penalty testing positive than what he will get for trying to cover it up.
 

TheGrizz

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For anyone asking whether last thursday will be reversed:

NO IT WONT.

ASADA process is that they will now go through this back and forth process where they have a chance to respond to ASADAs allegations and provide Evidence, and this can take a while (see Sam Murray).

Until Sam concedes or ASADA test his B sample and make a formalised ruling, he is not guilty of anything (presumption of innocence and what not - not that ASAGA showed that they give a crap about that).
It goes without saying that the vacation of a result wont happen without a guilty finding.
 

Albertross

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For anyone asking whether last thursday will be reversed:

NO IT WONT.

ASADA process is that they will now go through this back and forth process where they have a chance to respond to ASADAs allegations and provide Evidence, and this can take a while (see Sam Murray).

Until Sam concedes or ASADA test his B sample and make a formalised ruling, he is not guilty of anything (presumption of innocence and what not - not that ASAGA showed that they give a crap about that).
It goes without saying that the vacation of a result wont happen without a guilty finding.
I think that anyone that suggested the result be reversed, was genuinely taking the piss.
 

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Pweter

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Aren't the ASADA testers supposed to basically witness the pi**ing into said jar?

If so, who was it and how did this substitute happen?

If not, surely it's an easy way to stop this ever happening again. If players get stage fright just wait, they'll have to go eventually.
 

rumply

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Aren't the ASADA testers supposed to basically witness the pi**ing into said jar?

If so, who was it and how did this substitute happen?

If not, surely it's an easy way to stop this ever happening again. If players get stage fright just wait, they'll have to go eventually.
Testers are supposed to witness the athlete directly urinating into a jar so how tf can it be anything other than urine? Very strange.
 

Lore

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Aren't the ASADA testers supposed to basically witness the pi**ing into said jar?

If so, who was it and how did this substitute happen?

If not, surely it's an easy way to stop this ever happening again. If players get stage fright just wait, they'll have to go eventually.
Yeah..


Urine sample provision
Only a Chaperone (or DCO) of the same gender is permitted in the area of privacy when the athlete provides the sample. If the athlete is under 18 years of age, they may request their representative be present.The Chaperone (or DCO) will directly witness the urine sample leaving the athlete's body and going into the collection vessel.

An athlete providing a urine sample, witnessed by a Chaperone.

The athlete is required to thoroughly wash and dry their hands before providing a urine sample. They are also required to remove any clothing from the knees to the mid-torso and from the hands to the elbows.

The athlete is responsible for controlling their sample and keeping it in view of the DCO or Chaperone until it is sealed in a sample collection kit.

If the athlete provides a sample less than the required volume, they are required to temporarily seal it and provide further volume.

The first urine sample(s) that an athlete is able to provide post notification must be collected.


Dunno how you bugger that up tbh
 

TheGrizz

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AFL is winding up the NT thunder football club. Why?

Financially unviable? No
Continually unsuccessful? Nup, two flags since 2009
Not providing a benefit? Nup, 6 players drafted from their u18 systems since its inception and widely loved by the Darwin community.

So why?
Because they are disbanding th club in order to give the Gold Coast Suns the darwin area as an exclusive recruiting zone to boost their money sucking cellar dwellars.

I should be used to the AFL selling out footballing heartland for commercial interests. But it still makes me so. Damn
MAD.
 

rumply

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Jordan Lewis says he thinks its impossible to fake a sample, testers stand directly in front of you watching while you piss into a cup, then take it from you and seal it.
 

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