Oppo Camp Non-Essendon Football Thread XV

[JayJ20]

it really feels like carlton are copying the blueprint we had for the last few years. too desperate for quick success.

With Cripps possibly leaving and Williams being forced to play midfield, Carlton 2021 is a quick summary of Essendon 2017-2020. Like a filler episode.
They even brought Woosha in lol.

 

[Mercurial89]

Now watch as Fyfe who hasn't been able to kick (2 goals 15 or something this year) a goal this year kicks a bag on Sunday.

 

[11kgm]

Bolton's speccy not even Mark of the Round? Hang on, there's a twist

Shai Bolton can still win the Four'N Twenty Mark of the Year despite a voting boilover

www.afl.com.au

******* lol

 

[Phone]

Blues denying he has a fractured back. Teague saying he had a sore back but been fine for 6 weeks.

Looks like agent may be trying to keep value up for new contract.

well yeah that's exactly it and it was obvious this morning when the story come out. The agent has seen the direction of the wind and is trying to fight back against Cripps falling value/his possible growing expediency. I'm sure the truth of the condition of his back is somewhere in the middle

 

[Unfazed]

well yeah that's exactly it and it was obvious this morning when the story come out. The agent has seen the direction of the wind and is trying to fight back against Cripps falling value/his possible growing expediency. I'm sure the truth of the condition of his back is somewhere in the middle

The club denying Cripp's explanation hints of tension between the two parties. Popcorn time.

 

[11kgm]

 

[NAB777]

Oh yeah …absolutely. He and letting Roger Merrett go…two massive **** ups

And Merv Neagle.

 

[Dave]

Typical norf, always looking for a handout.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

And Merv Neagle.

He couldn’t say no to Edelstein’s money. Can’t blame him in way

 

[NAB777]

He couldn’t say no to Edelstein’s money. Can’t blame him in way

He was offered $395k over 3 years by Sydney. He was on $40k per year at Essendon, and all he wanted was an extra $10k & would have stayed - but they wouldn't give it to him.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

He was offered $395k over 3 years by Sydney. He was on $40k per year at Essendon, and all he wanted was an extra $10k & would have stayed - but they wouldn't give it to him.

$50k a year v $130k …don’t think there’s too many people knocking back triple your pay. Would’ve been nuts to stay

 

[NAB777]

$50k a year v $130k …don’t think there’s too many people knocking back triple your pay. Would’ve been nuts to stay

He wanted to stay. He was dirty on the club for years.

 

[Zach Package]

Priority picks are a funny one, every side that's ever got them did it through shooting themselves in the foot consistently and mismanaging themselves into the ground to the point of being non competitive. We were probably negligent in not applying for one at the end of last year if you lay out our case.

North certainly should be applying but the AFL will probably chuck it back in their face because they jettisoned plenty of mature, capable AFL talent for not a lot in return and rejected the move to Tassie previously which no doubt would have resulted in all kinds of zone access and startup priority selections to get them in the game as soon as possible.

 

[11kgm]

Priority picks are a funny one, every side that's ever got them did it through shooting themselves in the foot consistently and mismanaging themselves into the ground to the point of being non competitive. We were probably negligent in not applying for one at the end of last year if you lay out our case.

North certainly should be applying but the AFL will probably chuck it back in their face because they jettisoned plenty of mature, capable AFL talent for not a lot in return and rejected the move to Tassie previously which no doubt would have resulted in all kinds of zone access and startup priority selections to get them in the game as soon as possible.

What hope does North have of nailing the priority pick? I mean midfield heavy draft and they already have enough mids

Last year going Phillips over McDonald/Barras was a bizarre decision North needs talls

 

[Ati Tude]

I'd give Norf a priority pick. They are in such a bad way they need it. You can say they brought some of it on themselves but they are now so uncompetitive. The good thing about AFL is that teams can get to playing finals within around 4 years of bottoming out. Supporters feed off hope and AFL needs to help out here given how bad Norf are at the moment.

 

[citizen-erased]

Forget the PP
GCS assistance package, revoke the licence, hand to Tas.
Tassie get a list, picks 1, 2, 12 & 19 this year plus 1, 11 & 20 year after.

3 year period before the club moves all operations to Tas.
By which time the hawks would be looking to merge with someone
Tassie Roos become Tassie Hawks.


Fixed

 

[11kgm]

I'd give Norf a priority pick. They are in such a bad way they need it. You can say they brought some of it on themselves but they are now so uncompetitive. The good thing about AFL is that teams can get to playing finals within around 4 years of bottoming out. Supporters feed off hope and AFL needs to help out here given how bad Norf are at the moment.

North doesn't have supporters no need to give them hope haha

 

[astrowizzle]

Personally I couldn't give a s**t if North never win a game again. No way they should get a priority pick. Fmd we probably have A much a case to answer as they do

 

[yodellinhank]

The issue is still always there with priority picks, another 18yo talented kid to go with all the others a team should have from years of failure.

Needs to be an injection of mature talent somehow. Perhaps PP could be MSD related it may help. Allow extra list size. Something needs to be done to close the gap between perennial bottom 4 place finishers and 8-12th finishers in the short term, not the current plan of closing the gap of bottom 4 to top 4 over the long term.

 

[yodellinhank]

And lolnorf.

 

[sameolds33]

it really feels like carlton are copying the blueprint we had for the last few years. too desperate for quick success.

fixed it for you. If Carlton should achieve any success in the next couple of years, it'll have been anything but quick.

 

[GUMBLETRON]

The issue is still always there with priority picks, another 18yo talented kid to go with all the others a team should have from years of failure.

Needs to be an injection of mature talent somehow. Perhaps PP could be MSD related it may help. Allow extra list size. Something needs to be done to close the gap between perennial bottom 4 place finishers and 8-12th finishers in the short term, not the current plan of closing the gap of bottom 4 to top 4 over the long term.

The longer term solution is an AFL-bankrolled guarantee that they can fill the footy department soft cap, and if they're still rubbish, a hostile board and footy dept takeover from head office.

Access to talent has never been the problem with perennially-s**t teams, all the off-field stuff has, from coaching and development through to list management, fitness and player welfare.

 

[Ati Tude]

The longer term solution is an AFL-bankrolled guarantee that they can fill the footy department soft cap, and if they're still rubbish, a hostile board and footy dept takeover from head office.

Access to talent has never been the problem with perennially-sh*t teams, all the off-field stuff has, from coaching and development through to list management, fitness and player welfare.

Not for head office to take over any footy dept. But I kind of like the idea of the AFL having Neil Balme on permanent payroll and requiring the basket case of the day (currently Kangas) to use him as a consultant at AFL's cost.

 

[yodellinhank]

The longer term solution is an AFL-bankrolled guarantee that they can fill the footy department soft cap, and if they're still rubbish, a hostile board and footy dept takeover from head office.

Access to talent has never been the problem with perennially-sh*t teams, all the off-field stuff has, from coaching and development through to list management, fitness and player welfare.

They don't get the top end talent though. Who was the last bottom 4 team to land a big fish, Judd-Carlton?

 

[Lore]

They don't get the top end talent though. Who was the last bottom 4 team to land a big fish, Judd-Carlton?

Not the only way to access talent...