Oppo Camp Non-Essendon Football Thread XV

[JayJ20]

Oh look. Another team that recognises how important contested football and having a strong midfield group is.

The midfield Carlton built is what we've been calling on for years. The Blues are real top 4 contenders because their list managers actually addressed their midfield balance.

If the midfield is strong, then you can get away with having only one or two gun forwards and defenders at either end of the ground. Think Collingwood 2018, Richmond 2017, Bulldogs 2016, 2021 and Carlton 2022 (without McKay) or even Fremantle 2022 depending on how they respond to last week. It seems like we're fixated on building a West Coast 2018 type list which takes a lot longer to build and still doesn't guarantee success or sustained success.

We wasted a decent group of defenders and forwards post saga because of our stubborn list managers not addressing our midfield balance.

 

[sameolds33]

Yep, to be clear I meant familiar in that it’s our achillies heel as well.

Hardly a new thing because it has been like this for a while but **** me have they accumulated some talent.

Yes, they've had a long time to accumulate that talent. Been down the bottom of the table for a long time now. Wasn't the last time they made finals the year we got kicked out? It's been a long slow rebuild but it does look like they've finally putting it all together. Do agree with you and others about the "no plan B" and the similarities with us.

 

[sameolds33]

I reckon Blues get top 4, they’ll be 10-2 after two more rounds. Outside Dees and Lions there’s not many teams that are that much better than them. Curnow’s return, McKay’s better, Hewett and Cerra very good additions

History shows that teams that go hard and fast in the first half of a season tend to fade in the second half as injuries and fatigue affect the players and the game plan.

 

[Lore]

 

[sameolds33]

That was a fair tackle by NM's Thomas on Langdon.

 

[rumply]

carn Norf

 

[TheUnicorn]

Can u imagine if North are the first team to knock off Melbourne....wtf

 

[mike14]

Can u imagine if North are the first team to knock off Melbourne....wtf

Doesn't count while they're named Naarn

 

[ghostdog]

WCE are witches hats. 87 - 34 and it's not even half time. Simmo is gooorne.

 

[ghostdog]

Wonder how Tom Barrass

37

Tom Barrass

Age

28

Ht

197cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.2

3star

K

8.8

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

6.1

5star

T

0.9

3star

MG

158.5

3star

D

10.1

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

2.1

2star

M

5.6

5star

T

0.3

1star

MG

139.6

2star

D

11.4

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

4.2

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

0.4

3star

MG

160.0

3star

is feeling now. Inked a 5 year extension at the end of last year, otherwise he would have been available at the end of this year.

 

[eth-dog]

#freekickhawthorn

 

[DapperDon]

#freekickhawthorn

Horrible spectator match, completely over umpired.

 

[eth-dog]

Horrible spectator match, completely over umpired.

I mean, I don't even know how Lewis got that last one

 

[eth-dog]

Newcombe fends off, gets tackled, no free. Fix is in

 

[rumply]

Horrible spectator match, completely over umpired.

61 frees at last count

 

[citizen-erased]

Some score
Gil will be happy.

 

[kelvin_sheedy]

Turn on the Freo game and first contest Colyer fumbles the hell out of a bar of soap

Feel like I'm right at home

 

[ScrappyCoCo]

Actually enjoying watching a wet weather slog from Perth in heavy conditions.

 

[ScrappyCoCo]

You do not often see someone's shorts pulled down to the point they are naked on TV. Lol Darcy Moore

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Darcy Moore

Age

28

Ht

203cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.1

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

169.1

3star

D

13.9

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

0.7

1star

MG

182.0

3star

D

6.8

2star

K

4.2

2star

HB

2.6

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

87.4

2star

.

 

[eth-dog]

Hawkes currently have no fit rucks on their list with Lynch's concussion. Probably have to run with Nash and Kosi as the pairing this week against Witts, who should have a field day

 

[CBombers17]

You would have gotten long odds for Hirdy to be coaching GWS a few years ago.

 

[ghostdog]

I know he left us but gee I'd love to see Paddy win a premiership medal. I don't bear a grudge because the saga was s**** for all involved.

 

[rumply]

 

[ant555]

Oh look. Another team that recognises how important contested football and having a strong midfield group is.

The midfield Carlton built is what we've been calling on for years. The Blues are real top 4 contenders because their list managers actually addressed their midfield balance.

If the midfield is strong, then you can get away with having only one or two gun forwards and defenders at either end of the ground. Think Collingwood 2018, Richmond 2017, Bulldogs 2016, 2021 and Carlton 2022 (without McKay) or even Fremantle 2022 depending on how they respond to last week. It seems like we're fixated on building a West Coast 2018 type list which takes a lot longer to build and still doesn't guarantee success or sustained success.

We wasted a decent group of defenders and forwards post saga because of our stubborn list managers not addressing our midfield balance.

We all know the issues. Hell I have been complaining about midfield depth and drafting genuine midfielders for 10 years.
I was wrong as far as backing Richardson and getting Shiel as that has not worked although I will say it did work in 2019 . Other than that I have been saying for a long while the midfield was out of kilt and we keep drafting flankers to play in it.
Our only hope is the changes that where made at the end of 2020 give us a better focus on list planning even if Dodoro still has one finger in the pie.

 

[BrunoV]

Yeah, I'm sure the Essendon, Collingwood and Richmond fans are all over this.