Oppo Camp Non-Essendon Thread X

[Ben the Gooner]

Why should Kane Cornes or Chad Wingard be forced to play against their own State of Origin jumper?

 

[Doss]

To me, I must admit it seems like a petty gesture purely designed to piss off Port.

Hopefully it backfires and Port come out and solidly roll them.

 

[VelvetSledge]

To me, I must admit it seems like a petty gesture purely designed to piss off Port.

Hopefully it backfires and Port come out and solidly roll them.

I'd put money on that happening.

I'm so keen for that match.

 

[eth-dog]

It's a dead-set farce. How would Fremantle feel if WC wore the WA jumper?

 

[Doss]

It's a dead-set farce. How would Fremantle feel if WC wore the WA jumper?

Or how would GWS feel if Sydney wore the NSW jumper, or how would GC feel if Brisbane wore the QLD...

Oh wait, no one remembers what those two jumpers look like.

 

[CourtzMajora]

I'm so keen for that match.

Same. Can't wait to be there.

Nothing like a bit of controversy to stir up the rivalry more.

 

[Pweter]

How would the rest of Vic feel if Collingwood or Carlton wore the Big V in a game. That should put some perspective into it for most of you.

It is a petty move and nothing more. I'm a proud South Australian and it disgusts me that 1 football club that is composed of 50% or more non-South Australians gets to wear the state colours in a home and away game of AFL footy.

McDermott said it best, that it will be a very sad day when South Australians are booing and jeering the state jumper based on this one petty move. Given the death of SOO it should be there to serve as a memory of our greatest players, not something some floggo like David Mackay can wear with no sentiment attached to it at all.

I've liked Port more than the Crows for some time now, this pretty much puts the Crows in the Carlton basket for me now. Arrogance personified.

 

[BrewSmackerVeiny]

Poor form from the Crows, I expect Port to fire up and flog them.

 

[Whispering_Jack]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/it-takes-more-than-money--demons-ceo-20140206-322pe.html

"Culture and list management – and not how wealthy the club was – were the keys to winning premierships and were forming the basis the Paul Roos-led era at Melbourne, chief executive Peter Jackson has said."

and

"To be honest if you go back over for the last 15 years and probably in reality the last 50 years ... culture and list management is what has won premierships," Jackson said.

"I still don’t believe that the amount you spend (is the determining factor) – and I know there’s some suggestions at the moment there is – but it goes deeper than that."

Yes, probably the most financially conservative CEO in our history would say all that wouldn't he. Then again, we did have the worst facilities in the AFL throughout the 2000's, spent barely anything in the footy department and look how that served us!

 

[Kong]

I think it's terrible by Adelaide.
How could the AFL ............

Mmm, yeah.

 

[HirdyLannister]

I'm torn between this, in one hand I don't agree with Adelaide wearing it and in the other hand I hate Kochie. I can't decide

 

[Stopher]

We should all know better though, than to ask the AFL to intervene in this matter. They told EFC that they couldn't have a pre-dominantly red clash jumper because red is considered a 'dark' colour like black. But they then decided that a dull grey was acceptable.

Oh, and not forgetting this little beaut:

 

[Burzum]

It's a dead-set farce. How would Fremantle feel if WC wore the WA jumper?

Wouldn't it be better to ask how would Adelaide feel if Port wore the SA jumper? You're just asking a hypothetical question that we already have a real-life scenario for.

 

[yaco55]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/it-takes-more-than-money--demons-ceo-20140206-322pe.html

"Culture and list management – and not how wealthy the club was – were the keys to winning premierships and were forming the basis the Paul Roos-led era at Melbourne, chief executive Peter Jackson has said."

and

"To be honest if you go back over for the last 15 years and probably in reality the last 50 years ... culture and list management is what has won premierships," Jackson said.

"I still don’t believe that the amount you spend (is the determining factor) – and I know there’s some suggestions at the moment there is – but it goes deeper than that."

Yes, probably the most financially conservative CEO in our history would say all that wouldn't he. Then again, we did have the worst facilities in the AFL throughout the 2000's, spent barely anything in the footy department and look how that served us!

I say that results back up Jackson's argument.

 

[yaco55]

Surely the AFL would ban the Crows from wearing the SA guernsey. After all the AFL fines clubs if they wear the wrong colored socks.

 

[Whispering_Jack]

I say that results back up Jackson's argument.

What results?

 

[Pweter]

Surely the AFL would ban the Crows from wearing the SA guernsey. After all the AFL fines clubs if they wear the wrong colored socks.

AFL approved it. More accurately, apparently it was a junior staffer or something that approved it.

Governance.... pffft.

 

[Pweter]

What results?

That reducing spending in modern footy is great for the bottom line, but results in you being left behind in all other aspects such as recruitment, facilities, staffing etc. Surely.....????

 

[Doss]

We should all know better though, than to ask the AFL to intervene in this matter. They told EFC that they couldn't have a pre-dominantly red clash jumper because red is considered a 'dark' colour like black. But they then decided that a dull grey was acceptable.

Oh, and not forgetting this little beaut:

Three of the most farcical jumper situations have involved Carlton.

1) The clash with Port in Round 23 last year
2) The clash when they play West Coast at Subiaco and Carlton and WCE both have their home strips on. Would it really be so hard for West Coast to wear the royal blue and yellow guernsey as opposed to the one with dark blue?
3) When Hawthorn wore that hideous white clash strip against Carlton in 2012. It is difficult to think of two jumpers that clash less than Carlton and Hawthorn's default strips.

 

[yaco55]

What results?

His argument that the wealthiest clubs win all the premierships.

Doesn't ring true.

 

[yaco55]

AFL approved it. More accurately, apparently it was a junior staffer or something that approved it.

Governance.... pffft.

Are you serious !

Wow !

 

[Whispering_Jack]

His argument that the wealthiest clubs win all the premierships.

Doesn't ring true.

I didn't say it does (although I would argue that since 2000 Ess, WCE, Gee, Coll and Haw would have been up there in footy department spending), I was pointing out that not spending money and being too conservative leads to where we found ourselves until the last few years with shit facilities and a small footy department.

 

[Zach Package]

How did this jumper even get past the actual production phase.

Seems like a no brainer for the AFL to me.


Actually scratch that, just answered my own question

 

[Yoda_]

The damage has been done, every man and his dog will now have his eyes on Adelaide Oval for the 'Showdown' with the added spice now.

Good PR by Adelaide, terrible admin by the AFL/SANFL/whoever the feck passed it through.

 

[Phone]

how on earth could you consider this good PR. It's one of those rare events in football, where something called arrogant actually is arrogant. The Crows didn't talk to Port, didn't seem to care about the perfectly reasonable misgivings of people, or even seem to anticipate that people could have those problems, have misled the SANFL (in relation to cash for names on the jumper) and seem to have filed this jumper request with the AFL like any other special jumper request, as opposed to talking it over with the AFL before submitting the request, which strikes me a sensible thing to do when you're attempting to do something like this. It's made their management look arrogant and inept, as well as their fans who quickly fell in line to defend it and even now are more angry at the SANFL than their own club's poor decision making.