Oppo Camp Non-Essendon Thread X

[baz_machine]

#leadership

 

[Howard Moon]

i heard he didnt king hit the guy... he just tapped him on the shoulder really hard and said he would get him bad.. next time

 

[carnthedons]

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'WWF addict, footy trip specialist'

Oh the humanity

He likes pandas?

 

[yaco55]

Agree with this. Oh, hai gang!

Dont forget as well yaco55 last year we also took the most 18 year olds of any club outside of the new franchise clubs( did that also the draft prior). This year is a combination of 1. Draft not being that deep and we are holding for next years draft, hence having only 39 listed players. 2. Using the rookie list as insurance so hence more ready to go bodys. Our list age is still quite young 24.63 years 95.18 games 188.22cm 88.59kg.

What I said is that you have to strike in the next 2 or 3 years. 24.63 average age - This would have to be in the oldest 4 to 6 lists in the AFL. Correct me if I am wrong.

And I maintain that you have wasted the rookie list in the last two years - All mature age players - Petterd should be Ok from 2012, and think Miles from 2013 may go OK. It would be nice to see an 18/19 yr old on the Rookie List.

 

[yaco55]

Get it - Altitude camps do strange things to one's brain.

 

[Tiger71]

What I said is that you have to strike in the next 2 or 3 years. 24.63 average age - This would have to be in the oldest 4 to 6 lists in the AFL. Correct me if I am wrong.

And I maintain that you have wasted the rookie list in the last two years - All mature age players - Petterd should be Ok from 2012, and think Miles from 2013 may go OK. It would be nice to see an 18/19 yr old on the Rookie List.

Thats what I meant about we are using the rookie list diffrent then most. As our main list is so young, we have chosen more 18 year olds in the past two drafts ( not including this one) then any club outside of GWS we had to inject some easily replaceable mature aged bodys that we can churn over. lonagern<Sp> was a perfect example. Get him in, he plays VFL. Only bring him in ( played 2 games) when we have injurys.

At the end of the year, remove him and recruit another

 

[Kong]

Nah, Jolly's still a shit.

The sooky la la routine is none too endearing.

I'll never respect him.

Was one of the biggest scraggers during his day, along with a a handful of other Pies teammates.

 

[baz_machine]

Thats what I meant about we are using the rookie list diffrent then most. As our main list is so young, we have chosen more 18 year olds in the past two drafts ( not including this one) then any club outside of GWS we had to inject some easily replaceable mature aged bodys that we can churn over. lonagern<Sp> was a perfect example. Get him in, he plays VFL. Only bring him in ( played 2 games) when we have injurys.

At the end of the year, remove him and recruit another

Tigers are using it as "Use in case of emergency".

Other clubs are trying to get the next Dean Cox or Michael Barlow.

Don't mind the Tigers approach. They are getting know quantities that can fill the gap when required.

 

[Lord Nicholson]

I'll never respect him.

Was one of the biggest scraggers during his day, along with a a handful of other Pies teammates.

Will never forget the milestone treat he got in '11 against us.

Kent status confirmed.

 

[Dave]

Apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Indeed. With an old man like that he didn't have much hope of not turning out to be brain dead. Being drafted by Whorethorn made it a dead set certainty.

 

[VelvetSledge]

lol

 

[Doss]

Campbell Brown is a flog and a hypocrite. So long, gutless thug hound.

 

[Eleven 38]

Im a bit confused on what Jolly had to say, on one hand he says Buckley didnt tell him the reasons he was not getting another contract he said they were just excuses. and then on the other hand he says Buckley told him his body was shot..

Now i would have thought his body being shot was a good reason not to give him a new contract.

 

[yaco55]

Surely Campbell Brown will be sacked if the report of the incident is true.

 

[VelvetSledge]

Surely Campbell Brown will be sacked if the report of the incident is true.

Absolutely. You'd imagine his "budding" career in the media would go down the sinkhole, too.

 

[Doss]

Im a bit confused on what Jolly had to say, on one hand he says Buckley didnt tell him the reasons he was not getting another contract he said they were just excuses. and then on the other hand he says Buckley told him his body was shot..

Now i would have thought his body being shot was a good reason not to give him a new contract.

To my mind, there's enough smoke around Buckley and man management to suggest there is some fire there. Not all is rosy in that sense.

However, the forum and manner in which Jolly has come out with these comments (like the ones he made about Daniher) paint him as a tool, IMO.

 

[yaco55]

To my mind, there's enough smoke around Buckley and man management to suggest there is some fire there. Not all is rosy in that sense.

However, the forum and manner in which Jolly has come out with these comments (like the ones he made about Daniher) paint him as a tool, IMO.

Buckley's issue was that he inherited a team ( a successful team ) that played up big time off the field. Buckley of course was super professional as a player - So he's come into a culture which was the anthithesis of his beliefs for professional sports people - Unfortunately, Buckley couldn't divorce himself from the situation, sit back and let things play out for one or two years - Then if the teams performance declined he could act strongly - but instead from day one, he wanted to change the culture of the team which put him offside with some of the high performing senior players - And at the same time the teams performance has declined and he has lost good players.

I think his performance so far has been extremely disappointing and could end up being a disaster.

 

[Doss]

Yeah, yaco55, I don't really disagree with anything you've said there.

I still do think that Jolly is overlooking (whether by ignorance or deliberately) the simple fact that he is utterly finished and cooked as a player. He may have a point about Buckley in general, but I'm also astonished that Jolly is at all surprised that he was given the chop.

 

[jimbler]

Crazy shit you see on Ebay i.e. people wearing socks & sandals

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Kevin-Sh...d=100033&prg=1011&rk=4&rkt=4&sd=190985598897&

 

[Beerfish]

lolwut

 

[HirdyLannister]

Crazy shit you see on Ebay i.e. people wearing socks & sandals

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Kevin-Sh...d=100033&prg=1011&rk=4&rkt=4&sd=190985598897&

Dunno if fake, but it's pretty cool if it's real... Club auctioning anything to pay for the fines?

 

[Andronicus]

Buckley's issue was that he inherited a team ( a successful team ) that played up big time off the field. Buckley of course was super professional as a player - So he's come into a culture which was the anthithesis of his beliefs for professional sports people - Unfortunately, Buckley couldn't divorce himself from the situation, sit back and let things play out for one or two years - Then if the teams performance declined he could act strongly - but instead from day one, he wanted to change the culture of the team which put him offside with some of the high performing senior players - And at the same time the teams performance has declined and he has lost good players.

I think his performance so far has been extremely disappointing and could end up being a disaster.

Think next year will see more high profile players going?

I'm guessing this year will serve as a bit of a warning to the remaining bad eggs. A year to sort yourselves out, or you could be in for a nasty surprise kind of deal.

 

[VelvetSledge]

Think next year will see more high profile players going?

I'm guessing this year will serve as a bit of a warning to the remaining bad eggs. A year to sort yourselves out, or you could be in for a nasty surprise kind of deal.

I'd almost put money on Swan going elsewhere.

 

[Stopher]

Some of the conversations in the Collingwood boardroom and at dining tables of a few high profile Collingwood people between 2009-2011 would make a very interesting book. Given it would be hard to find a completely objective point of view on this whole situation, taking differing accounts of the same conversations would be possible. Maybe drop into Rent-A-Quote Jolly's house for a chat to get the ball rolling.

Given the huge number of Collingwood supporters around the country, this is just a best-seller waiting to happen.

 

[Kong]

To my mind, there's enough smoke around Buckley and man management to suggest there is some fire there. Not all is rosy in that sense.

However, the forum and manner in which Jolly has come out with these comments (like the ones he made about Daniher) paint him as a tool, IMO.

Which Daniher; and what'd he say?