Oppo Camp Non-Essendon Thread XI

[Lore]

#shamelessplug

If you want to see where the picks will fall based on the current ladder, I've posted a spreadsheet that updates at the end of each round (Monday or Tuesday, it's automated) in the drafts board.

Linky: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thre...-order-picks-based-on-current-ladder.1160828/

I should note that my above post is based on the ladder from the end of round 2.. so if GWS is 5th then Hawthorn's first pick is 32 for the end of round 3.

 

[yaco55]

It's a false dawn for Richmond - They are just an average team.

 

[yaco55]

Geelong's set up behind the ball for the first two rounds was about the best in the AFL - Yet Melbourne sliced through their grid with ease - Will closely watch Geelong in the next few weeks.

 

[BrunoV]

Interesting to hear Cam Mooney on SEN this afternoon say that in a conversation with Pav, Pav told Mooney that he thought that that 18 man defence is bullshit.

It's the best current example that the players do disagree with what they are told to do but that they will always maintain the company line.

18 man defence is bullshit. The tactical value has been miscalculated and lost because it is really more about trying to mould the attitudes of players. The ground simply isn't that big that the zone cannot be moved to cut off angles to do things like play one tagger and leave a forward deep.

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

It's a false dawn for Richmond - They are just an average team.

I still think they rely on their top tier players too much.

 

[hotkorma]

I saw a b-double tanker full of upset juice driving around the Gold Coast this morning.

Does Hawthorn have a delusional pearlers thread? This needed to have gone it it

 

[Alfred E Neuman]

Did Hawthorn trade away their 2016 first and second rounders as well as their 2017 ones??

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

What I like about Hawks struggling is if they finish bottom 4 they won't have a top 10 pick.

Trading all their picks for JOM and Mitchel is going to bite them on the bum hahaha.

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Did Hawthorn trade away their 2016 first and second rounders as well as their 2017 ones??

Right now is stands they traded pick 1

lol

 

[Kakkle]

Did Hawthorn trade away their 2016 first and second rounders as well as their 2017 ones??

Yep.

 

[GUMBLETRON]

Did Hawthorn trade away their 2016 first and second rounders as well as their 2017 ones??

Yeah, 2016 first for Mitchell, 2017 first and three second rounders for O'Meara. Their first pick this year is GWS's second.

 

[Alfred E Neuman]

Right now is stands they traded pick 1

lol

Yep.

Yeah, 2016 first for Mitchell, 2017 first and three second rounders for O'Meara. Their first pick this year is GWS's second.

Jesus. And they have very little currency left in terms of players to trade for decent picks.

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Yep.

They might have to trade some of their stars if they want picks in the first 2 rounds

 

[Lore]

Did Hawthorn trade away their 2016 first and second rounders as well as their 2017 ones??

Yes. But they traded in a second rounder and thus maintained a presence in all but the first round of the draft. Which the AFL said was okay (retrospectively). I'm sure other clubs would have liked that to have been clear before hand though, because everyone understood the rule as being you may trade EITHER your first round pick OR your picks from any other round if you keep your first rounder until that trade was approved and then 'clarified' as being 'legal'.

The cost of T.Mitchell and O'Meara was very dear at the time and even dearer as it stands atm. St Kilda have got their first rounder though so they'll be pretty happy if Hawthorn maintain their current ladder position.

 

[Alfred E Neuman]

They might have to trade some of their stars if they want picks in the first 2 rounds

Who do they have left that'll net them a first rounder? Gunston?

 

[Alfred E Neuman]

Yes. But they traded in a second rounder and thus maintained a presence in all but the first round of the draft. Which the AFL said was okay (retrospectively). I'm sure other clubs would have liked that to have been clear before hand though, because everyone understood the rule as being you may trade EITHER your first round pick OR your picks from any other round if you keep your first rounder until that trade was approved and then 'clarified' as being 'legal'.

The cost of T.Mitchell and O'Meara was very dear at the time and even dearer as it stands atm. St Kilda have got their first rounder though so they'll be pretty happy if Hawthorn maintain their current ladder position.

Ta. I just had a look at the saints 'hawthorn round 1 pick watch' thread and it is very funny.

 

[Kakkle]

They might have to trade some of their stars if they want picks in the first 2 rounds

Considering what little value Lewis & Mitchell netted them, not sure there is a hell of a lot on that Hawthorn list that will net them something that will see them better off.

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Who do they have left that'll net them a first rounder? Gunston?

Gunston would be one apart from that i cant think of anyone else. Hawks are dreaming if they think they can get decent picks if they ship off the likes of Burgoyne,Gibson, etc.

 

[Alfred E Neuman]

Gunston would be one apart from that i cant think of anyone else. Hawks are dreaming if they think they can get decent picks if they ship off the likes of Burgoyne,Gibson, etc.

I think Burgoyne and Gibson at this stage of their careers would be lucky to get picks any higher than what they got for Mitchell - 88 I think.

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

I think Burgoyne and Gibson at this stage of their careers would be lucky to get picks any higher than what they got for Mitchell - 88 I think.

Pretty much but you know they will try them being multiple premiership players won't fool clubs.

 

[Old Campaigner]

Who do they have left that'll net them a first rounder? Gunston?

O'Meara and Mitchell

 

[Stopher]

Clarkson!

 

[BrunoV]

Who do they have left that'll net them a first rounder? Gunston?

Or they do the unthinkable and try to con a team into parting with two first round picks for Cyril.

 

[Alfred E Neuman]

Or they do the unthinkable and try to con a team into parting with two first round picks for Cyril.

If Bruce McAvaney was in charge of a list, I have no doubt this would happen.

 

[JayJ20]

St Kilda

OUT: pick 10 and pick 68
IN: Pick 23, 36 and as it stands, 2017 first rounder (Pick 1 at the moment)

Wot. That would be laughable even if 2017 first rounder was pick 11.

Hawthorn really messed up in the off season