Mega Thread Non-Freo AFL Discussion

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Snuffaluphagus

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Let me guess. You made the fatal mistake of engaging with THE GUN?
Wasting your time there mate. Don’t you know he’s really the Richmond list manager?
If you knew the discussions the mod team have had about ol’mate.

I don’t pretend to be getting anywhere, sometimes a person just wants engage with nuffies
 

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dropbear101

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That's not high skinfolds, that's a legit D-grade ressies full-forward beer gut!
I laugh, but every now and again you encounter some fella with a beer gut who still has his burst pace.

For some odd reason these players are an actual nightmare to contain.
 

Madas

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Eh, if you can’t laugh at Carlton, who can you laugh at. It’s footy, it’s a bit of fun at the end of the day. Us being sh*t doesn’t mean you can’t laugh at other sh*t teams
I am loving the sh*t Carlton are copping at the moment but also acutely aware that we are very much capable of being where they are if we lose too many good players in the next few years .
I generally think we are trending better if we can keep the group together and have another successful draft year .
 

Dockeroo

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Geelong is set to win a sixth stand-alone prime time fixture in eight games with the AFL expected to lock next week’s clash against Essendon in for Friday night at GMHBA Stadium.

The AFL will unveil the Round 16 fixture later this week, but the annual ‘Country Game’ is in pole position for the marquee timeslot in what will be the Bombers’ first trip down the highway since 1993.

The prime-time pussy Cats have been the clear winner from the league’s new rolling fixture, which will see them shine almost exclusively under the bright TV lights for more than two months as the competition’s form team.

Gary Rohan’s clutch goal after the siren last Friday night extended Geelong’s winning streak to six matches. The next best active winning streak is just two — held by Collingwood and West Coast.

Cats chief executive Brian Cook said it was “fulfilling” to have millions of eyeballs across the country fixed in Geelong for such an extended run.

Geelong would love the Victorian government to approve a crowd of 75 per cent capacity (27,000) against the Bombers, which would see them come close to breaking even.

However a capacity of 50 per cent at GMHBA Stadium is the early frontrunner for the regional venue. Last week’s game against the Dogs was restricted to just 20 per cent (7000 fans).


“(Prime time exposure) meets and exceeds the expectations of your sponsors and corporate partners, who rely on TV ratings as much as they do attendances at games,” Cook said on Monday night.

“From a commercial point of view the television ratings are really saving us. We lost about $500,000 at the game on Friday night, so even though it was televised we still lost half a million because the game revenues were reduced dramatically.

“If it wasn’t for good ratings we might be in a few more problems. It’s (prime time) a win with your corporate partners, there’s no doubt about that.”

The Cats have about 400,000 supporters across the country who have been able to routinely tune in on a Thursday or Friday night in the winter months.

The Bombers have fast become one of the most watchable teams this season and they are set to be rewarded with their first Friday night game since round 10 last season.

Seven of their 13 matches have been decided by 16 points or less, which has included nailbiting losses of one, two and three points against Hawthorn, Greater Western Sydney and Sydney respectively.

New coach Ben Rutten’s team is ranked No. 2 in the AFL for total points, trailing only the ballistic Western Bulldogs.

The Bombers are also ranked No. 3 for scores per inside 50m, No. 5 for points from turnovers and No. 4 for points from stoppages as Rutten’s system becomes second nature in the second season he has taught it.

There is the potential for the AFL to also stage a Thursday night game next week.

However the Round 16 fixture does not present a buffet of games which command stand alone status.

Games between Sydney-West Coast (SCG) and Melbourne-Giants (MCG) are the only others that are set to be played by teams currently in the top half of the ladder.
 

Docker82

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Wouldn't be surprised if the Freo vs Carlton game isn't in Perth tbh.

As it currently sits Freo players will be required to go into 14 days quarantine from Sunday.

Be careful what you wish for is all I'm saying.
 

Taylor

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Remember how West Coast had to quarantine for two weeks after playing the "unclean" Pies, then they changed it to a week after a week because oh well?

That's what I expect to happen with Freo.

The team will fly in, play, fly home, stay at home until they record a negative test result and then life as normal. As long as they all wear their masks on the plane or else the world ends and we get a $50,000 fine.
 

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E Shed

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I laugh, but every now and again you encounter some fella with a beer gut who still has his burst pace.

For some odd reason these players are an actual nightmare to contain.
When I was going up to the Desert to play music at the footy carnivals we'd watch the matches (even pull on a jumper sometimes if they invited us).
This was the Western Desert Carnival with blokes from the most remote communities on earth (literally). Some teams would drive over 1000km to play.
There would be a few blokes that had been down to the WAFL for a while who played with boots on but most would just wear bare feet on 40C red dirt.
There was always a couple of old blokes with huge guts who would park themselves at full forward. I remember one bloke that would be smoking a dart leaning against the goal post but if the ball came down his end he'd chuck the dhurry behind the goals and either take a screamer on someones head or grab it off the deck dance around 3 defenders and kick a goal.
Then he'd go pick his dhurry up and go back to leaning on the goalpost.

Rioli won't have any problem kicking goals at AFL level. I'd take him in a heartbeat.
 

Joao

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When I was going up to the Desert to play music at the footy carnivals we'd watch the matches (even pull on a jumper sometimes if they invited us).
This was the Western Desert Carnival with blokes from the most remote communities on earth (literally). Some teams would drive over 1000km to play.
There would be a few blokes that had been down to the WAFL for a while who played with boots on but most would just wear bare feet on 40C red dirt.
There was always a couple of old blokes with huge guts who would park themselves at full forward. I remember one bloke that would be smoking a dart leaning against the goal post but if the ball came down his end he'd chuck the dhurry behind the goals and either take a screamer on someones head or grab it off the deck dance around 3 defenders and kick a goal.
Then he'd go pick his dhurry up and go back to leaning on the goalpost.

Rioli won't have any problem kicking goals at AFL level. I'd take him in a heartbeat.
Probably nominated for the MSD and we didn't even bother to take a pick.
 

bzparkes

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$20 the kid picks WCE
Huge NicNat fan apparently. He was sitting with Bec in the crowd behind Sheed when he kicked the winning goal in 2018. Judd used to joke that he'd wear WCE socks under Carlton gear at games.

Can't imagine Carlton would be much of an appealing club to follow growing up in Melbourne right now, even if your dad is on the board.
 

WaywardSonSon

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Huge NicNat fan apparently. He was sitting with Bec in the crowd behind Sheed when he kicked the winning goal in 2018. Judd used to joke that he'd wear WCE socks under Carlton gear at games.

Can't imagine Carlton would be much of an appealing club to follow growing up in Melbourne right now, even if your dad is on the board.
Did you run an index scan of the characters on this page for the capital letters W, C & E?...One might think you spend your time checking if we're talking about anything related to the West Coast Eagles...
 

fnerd

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Huge NicNat fan apparently. He was sitting with Bec in the crowd behind Sheed when he kicked the winning goal in 2018. Judd used to joke that he'd wear WCE socks under Carlton gear at games.

Can't imagine Carlton would be much of an appealing club to follow growing up in Melbourne right now, even if your dad is on the board.
Yeah keep telling yourself and other wc fans that,whatever helps you get excited.
 

Dockeroo

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Have a read of this absolute joke of an organisation:

Gold Coast Suns issues revealed: cultural issues, boozy warning signs and failed leadership | Herald Sun
Gold Coast Suns football boss Jon Haines goes by the nickname “The Cameraman” at AFL HQ.

It’s a moniker Haines earned spectacularly for himself after filming senior coach Stuart Dew urinating on a pub wall and posting it to friends on WhatsApp.

Alcohol has never been far from the equation at the hapless Queensland expansion club, as it was last Saturday night when the beers were flowing freely for a large group of players at the Burleigh Pavilion in Burleigh Heads.

Fresh off a listless 50-point loss to Port Adelaide, the celebrations spilled over to a raucous house-party at nearby Burleigh Waters that wound up in the early hours of Sunday morning.

Young players are allowed a social life, but for several observers it was another warning sign that the wheels are again falling off at the AFL’s $250 million disaster club.

And while outspoken Suns chairman Tony Cochrane declared on Fox Footy on Monday night that he did not believe the “go-home” retention factor would be a problem this time around, others insist up to a dozen players, including top draft picks Ben Ainsworth, Will Brodie and Brayden Fiorini, are eyeing the exit door.

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Images from a video of Stuart Dew urinating in public.

Images from a video of Stuart Dew urinating in public.

Images from a video of Stuart Dew urinating in public.

Images from a video of Stuart Dew urinating in public.

It’s not the way highly-paid Gold Coast chief executive Mark Evans imagined it when he rolled into town four-and-a-half years ago promising to fix the game’s cash-guzzling problem child.

At a gathering with a group of Melbourne football journalists at Cochrane’s Gold Coast home on the eve of the 2017 season, Evans was asked why he had made the move from the AFL’s lofty football operations post to become leader of the Suns. His response was that he wanted to become the next chief executive of the AFL. But like so many who have come before him, Evans is finding out that unwavering self-assurance doesn’t guarantee success on the Glitter Strip.

More than two years ago, Evans launched the “Challenge Accepted” promotional campaign aimed at reversing the flagging fortunes of the club.

“This is a real reset of mindset and attitude,” Evans declared. “We need to inspire the community by what we do on the field and the manner in which we do that.”

But among the revellers on Saturday night were a group of Southport Sharks players from the second-tier competition who now joke that they are the best football team on the Gold Coast.

The Suns under Evans’ watch – even after being gifted another round of generous draft concessions at the end of 2019 – have failed to break the cycle.

Evans has overseen the sacking of coach Rodney Eade and the appointments of Dew, Haines, list boss Craig Cameron and coaching consultant Neil Craig.

After 74 games in charge, Dew, 41, has a worse win-loss record than the two senior coaches who came before him – a miserable 22 per cent.

Dew’s critics say he can be too emotional, takes negative feedback badly and has fallen out with several assistant coaches.

Cochrane failed to fully endorse him this week, admitting that everyone at the expansion club was under pressure.

“Let’s not gild the lily; the coach, the CEO, the president, we’re all under pressure, we’re all under the pump, because we need to be. What we’re serving up, it’s not good enough. And that’s a whole of club problem,” Cochrane said.

Chief Executive Mark Evans. Picture: AAP Images

Chief Executive Mark Evans. Picture: AAP Images

Football boss Jon Haines. Picture: Getty Images

Football boss Jon Haines. Picture: Getty Images

The delisting of the contracted Jarryd Lyons (a move not supported by Cochrane) has proved embarrassing, a generous five-year deal for Adelaide’s Rory Atkins raised eyebrows and Cochrane’s ill-timed barbs about Tasmania last week only shone a light back on his own club’s operations.

Despite entering the competition 12 months after the Suns, Greater Western Sydney has humiliated its older expansion brother with years of on-field excellence. The ground lost in player development and player welfare in the Suns’ formative years has never been made up.

When it was suggested to a senior Suns official a few years ago that he should hire highly-respected Giants welfare managers Craig and Melissa Lambert to help bolster player retention, the official openly laughed.

A greater focus was belatedly placed in that space at the end of the 2018 season when highly-respected Brisbane Lions Norm Smith medallist Shaun Hart and ex-Lion Matt Kennedy headed up an expanded welfare team, but both have since left the club.

Kennedy told News Corp this week he had serious concerns about the club’s current leadership.

“There was a dismissiveness and a lack of acknowledgment about the problems at the club,” he said.

Mark Evans and Tony Cochrane at the announcement of Stuart Dew as head coach. Picture: AAP Images

Mark Evans and Tony Cochrane at the announcement of Stuart Dew as head coach. Picture: AAP Images

“They just didn’t want to know about the behaviour of senior club figures that is holding them back. I’ve been on the coast since I was eight-years-old and would love nothing more than a powerhouse AFL team up here.

“And I’ve known some of the Suns players since they were teenagers, have a deep affection for them and crave that they have some success.”

Kennedy and Hart presented a document to club bosses at the start of last year detailing what they believed were the Suns’ cultural problems.

There was also a view that it was a mistake for prized draft picks Ben King and Jack Lukosius (and later Matt Rowell and Noah Anderson) to be living at Evans’ Gold Coast home, singling them out from teammates.

It goes to a “paranoia” one club figure said about the next batch of high-end talent walking out on the club.

Others say the forced exits of respected assistant coaches Dean Solomon, Nick Malceski and Ashley Prescott (as well as Hart and Kennedy) during last year’s Covid cuts ripped the soul out of the club.

They say it’s an indictment that many of the Suns’ sacked staff are now entrenched in key roles in local football – Malceski is coaching Labrador in the QAFL, while Steve Daniel, Matt Lappin and Matthew Primus are on the coaching panel at Southport.

Few past players, coaches or front office staff have ever left the club on good terms as the leaking of the damning Haines video last year demonstrated.

Former Collingwood president Eddie McGuire last week hinted at the prospect of further football department concessions for the Suns, but patience among rival clubs is wearing thin.

Next up for the Gold Coast is a clash against the bottom-placed Kangaroos in Tasmania – an Australian Rules heartland state some are now saying should be given its own team at the expense of the Suns.
 

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