Oppo Camp Non Geelong football (AFL) discussion 2024, Part I

[Pure_Ownage]

Sydney are very unimpressive. Flag race very much alive.

 

[Gunf]

If Sydney start like that against a good side in finals it will be a repeat of the Port game

 

[winty]

As a comparison, Ollie Dempsey has played in 28 games, and has played in 5 more wins.

 

[winty]

 

[cats_09]

Who wins a final first:

Essendon FC

Gold Coast FC

?

 

[Footy Smarts]

Who wins a final first:

Essendon FC

Gold Coast FC

?

Tasmania?

 

[Gunf]

Who wins a final first:

Essendon FC

Gold Coast FC

?

I like the answer above Tassie

 

[cats_09]

Tasmania?

That would be hilarious

But totally love it

 

[frggr]

It also has a fair bit to do with the size/strength of the player.

Umpires in all sports will often overlook the biggest strongest players, subconsciously they assume that they can look after themselves. These guys only get the obvious frees. A classic example of this was Shaq in basketball, by the letter of the law he was fouled nearly every time he touched the ball, but the refs would only call it if he was mauled. He was refereed differently to most every player in the nba.

Hawk being a massive unit who could dead lift the grandstand didnt help his cause with the umps. He is umpired very differently to someone like curnow who allows himself to be moved off his spot pretty easily. It also helps if you play in the air a bit more because any contact is exaggerated. Again, this worked against Hawk who rarely left the ground for the last 2/3 of his career.

Just a slight edit.

 

[frggr]

Who wins a final first:

Essendon FC

Gold Coast FC

?

Gold Coast. They have the pieces, just not the strategy or cohesion.

Next year is the year they make it.

 

[frggr]

Just in terms of where we sit amongst other top 4 aspirants, Squiggle has upgraded us to a projected 2nd spot finish. It was 4th/5th last week.

If this held:

Hawks should slaughter the Dogs (would have to be played at the MCG, surely) - Bevo would explode.
Sydney Brisbane would be a ripper.
Giants would dispose of Freo at home, you'd think.
Reckon we could lose to Port at the G - they've been good of late. Plus Narkle, Frank the Tank and Esava will play out of their skins

 

[CatToTheFuture]

If Sydney start like that against a good side in finals it will be a repeat of the Port game

We were in trash form when they were red hot and we still kicked the first 6 straight. I don't mind drawing them in a prelim

 

[winty]

 

[Vdubs]

Sydney are very unimpressive. Flag race very much alive.

Their ability to absorb pressure, which was intense, and then to finish them off WAS impressive imho. It's what premiership teams do.
Their first quarters are a concern, but a week off before finals puts every team in the same position.
The depth of their list, and getting Papley and Warner back, and guaranteed home final puts them in a great position.

The impressiveness of Lions and Dogs was diluted a bit last week, and then there's GWS and Port, also both in great form.

Who knows about the Hawks, and how far they can go.

Then Freo- will they even make the 8?

No comment on us until post game tonight.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Their ability to absorb pressure, which was intense, and then to finish them off WAS impressive imho. It's what premiership teams do.
Their first quarters are a concern, but a week off before finals puts every team in the same position.
The depth of their list, and getting Papley and Warner back, and guaranteed home final puts them in a great position.

The impressiveness of Lions and Dogs was diluted a bit last week, and then there's GWS and Port, also both in great form.

Who knows about the Hawks, and how far they can go.

Then Freo- will they even make the 8?

No comment on us until post game tonight.

Against good teams if they play like that in the first half the game will be over at half time (unless the opponent just kicks points like we did in the 2020 GF).
Their scoring in bursts is good but they wont win the flag being that inconsistent esp on the road.
I do agree papley will really help but i think the issue is mental and im not sure he fixes it.
Port are a paper tiger they wont win it.

I still think gws are the best team but if you can shut their handball game down you can really get them.
I think freo will have to beat port to get in (as i expect carlton to win tomorrow even with their injuries) so that last game next sunday will be massive.
Tonight will tell us more about our chances.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Their ability to absorb pressure, which was intense, and then to finish them off WAS impressive imho. It's what premiership teams do.
Their first quarters are a concern, but a week off before finals puts every team in the same position.
The depth of their list, and getting Papley and Warner back, and guaranteed home final puts them in a great position.

The impressiveness of Lions and Dogs was diluted a bit last week, and then there's GWS and Port, also both in great form.

Who knows about the Hawks, and how far they can go.

Then Freo- will they even make the 8?

No comment on us until post game tonight.

I don't think you can concede first quarters the way they do and win finals against good opposition. We'll see, but they pull that against a top 4 side in finals they're done by quarter time

 

[cats_09]

One round left - does Sydney play off in this years grand final:

Yes or No?

I'm going no

 

[Zouz Kitty]

Essendon denied retiring champion Dyson Heppell a farewell game as only 33,830 fans arrived at a “fully ticketed” Marvel Stadium clash despite the Bombers’ finals hopes remaining alive.

Brad Scott said they played their best team.

Bombers’ fans must be so disappointed

 

[cats_09]

Big win to GC in the VFL

 

[cats_09]

 

[Pure_Ownage]

One round left - does Sydney play off in this years grand final:

Yes or No?

I'm going no

Yes but whoever their GF opponent is will win.
Hope we get there.

 

[Mattlock]

This poor girl is going to have many years of crying about Essendon.

Too soon?

 

[CatToTheFuture]

One round left - does Sydney play off in this years grand final:

Yes or No?

I'm going no

I expect a losing prelim from them

 

[cats_09]

I know this is the VFL, but surely Brown is just taking the piss now

 

[CatToTheFuture]

That has to be one of the sweetest things I've seen.

How could they not give him a farewell match? At least when Melbourne started leaving out Nathan Jones they were playing meaningful games