Non Lions Discussion 2019

[pulpdriver]

We all wanted Toumpas so bad on this board to be fair. He looked Juddlike in his draft year.

One of the biggest wake-up calls to me that us armchair pundits are really just firing wildly in the dark when assessing players.

I'm still up in the air about whether Toumpas was never going to be any good or if he got Melboune'd. They were elite at stifling young talent for a time.

 

[POBT]

I think it would be a mistake to assume a private school education for a footballer equals a privileged background. I’d imagine most kids with obvious talent would be offered a place at a private school with a football focus, irrespective of whether their parents could afford the fees.

Different sport but a good mate of mine was educated at an elite Brisbane private school, despite his Dad being in and out of jail and spending occasional periods homeless with his Mum. His talent as a rugby player meant he got the best education possible, leading to a career as a professional sportsperson and now coach. But his background was anything but privileged.

 

[bungalow_bill]

I still think Cale Morton was drafting genius by Melbourne

 

[Dylan12]

If we're talking Melbourne's draft fails with a dash of private schoolism, let's not forget them taking Brighton Grammar's Jack Watts from a very wealthy liberal family at pick number one over the "wrong side" of the tracks product Nic Natanui.

At no stage were Melbourne ever looking elsewhere when they took Watts, nor did they ever look seriously at Dustin Martin after taking Scully and Trengrove at 1 & 2 in 09, you know, because Dustin Martin did not fit the establishment of a Melbourne type player.

 

[Dylan12]

Games like today's ANZAC clash are gentle reminders why a lot of players want to move to or be drafted by Essendon and Collingwood.

I'm not sure what player wouldn't enjoy getting to play in such games on an annual basis or bi-annual basis with Collingwood players also getting the Queens Birthday stand alone match against Melbourne.

 

[M Malice]

Not a fan of either of these clubs, they have good sides though, I'd like to see the Bombers win purely for our draft pick ramifications and the future viability of our Death Ride thread.

 

[Harris Specter]

Clear to see how we got smashed by both these teams. They just have so many runners and fast ball movement.

 

[Viceregal]

Was just wondering if we had anything either way on this game bar Pies as low as possible for picks but since jason pm had the same thought I must be on the right track!

 

[Harris Specter]

Haha Beams just shat himself as soon as he heard footsteps.

 

[Grizzly86]

I don't feel so bad about last week now...

 

[BRAB]

Collingwood shutting down Essendon's run.

Looking very sharp now after starting the season slow. Might have to get used to the idea of having pick 18 in this year's draft.

 

[Mr Ripper]

I don't feel so bad about last week now...

What about two weeks ago?

 

[CarloLion]

Yeah both these sides are so far ahead of us. Appetite for the contest and ball movement leave us in the dust.

 

[MacMum]

Couldn't care less about either of them.....watching the races.

 

[Grizzly86]

What about two weeks ago?

Has quickly been readjusted to a similar level to Rd 22 2005.

 

[The Zork]

Collingwood really is the best place for Dayne Beams.
A powerful midfield who share the load and great set up behind the ball.
He has no other duties other than to chase the ball.
No chasing, no big deal if he turns it over.

 

[M Malice]

Collingwood looking awfully good, best side I've seen play this season, their pressure, run and overlap/handball receive play is elite. Hopefully they have peaked too early.

They are doing the same thing to Essendon that they did to us last week.

 

[CarloLion]

Pies pressure is insane.

 

[Harris Specter]

Interesting that Gill says Brisbane has to perform to keep the Easter Thursday blockbuster. But teams like Essendon and Melbourne can dish up ordinary performances year after year and get primetime games.

 

[Dom PC]

Holy crap that was a big kick.

 

[Lions Flag 2020]

Collingwood getting a lot of good decisions from umps. I recon bombers would be in front with fair luck from umps.

 

[CarterS]

Interesting that Gill says Brisbane has to perform to keep the Easter Thursday blockbuster. But teams like Essendon and Melbourne can dish up ordinary performances year after year and get primetime games.

And Kangas about to sign up for 20 years for good Friday despite the rubbish they served up.

 

[CarterS]

Monster goal from Daniher

 

[marooned]

Essendon clawed their way back with fast play.Could get interesting.

 

[Eons]

I think it would be a mistake to assume a private school education for a footballer equals a privileged background. I’d imagine most kids with obvious talent would be offered a place at a private school with a football focus, irrespective of whether their parents could afford the fees.

Different sport but a good mate of mine was educated at an elite Brisbane private school, despite his Dad being in and out of jail and spending occasional periods homeless with his Mum. His talent as a rugby player meant he got the best education possible, leading to a career as a professional sportsperson and now coach. But his background was anything but privileged.

Spot on. Poaching of good football talent and offering them scholarships at private schools has been going on for a long time.

Most of them wouldn't have had the opportunity to attend decent schools if it wasn't for their sporting abilities.

Great for the kid who gets the scholarship and even better for the school if the kid gets drafted.