Non-Lions discussion 2022

[rye]

Knee jerk rubbish to put their hat in the ring for Clarkson..rounds 16-20 they beat Sydney,Lions,Suns and North and lost to Collingwood by a couple of points.They are hardly struggling.One blowout towards the end of a season and all this ridiculous hoo ha

from an outside pov essendon feels like a club that believes its entitled to finals and flags. this isnt helped by people from the last era of success maintaining positions of power and influence both inside and outside the club (sheedy, lloyd....). i dont think anyone is willing to take the high road and build properly for success, rather its been 2 decades of chasing shortcuts back to the top which doesnt work. thats why we see constant board machinations and figures like dodoro getting long runs whilst coaches and players go through rotating door scenarios

i think this all culiminated for me this year in the absurd 150th celebrations where the main focal point was on james hird, a figure who had brought the club to the lowest point any afl club has ever faced that doesnt include being forced to move / merge. its ridiculous to me how hard the club tries to sanitise hird and what happened there. if somebody at brisbane did that, even if they were a premiership hero and / or captain i would want the club to rightfully consider them as exiled. essendon instead shake their head and pretend it was a nothing scenario.

 

[FeastOrFamine]

Just Essendon being Essendon - always looking for shortcuts in pursuit of success

 

[Nathan Barley]

Wonder if there's anything to the rumours of ScoMo joining the bombers

Not sure what position he plays

 

[irel]

Wonder if there's anything to the rumours of ScoMo joining the bombers

Not sure what position he plays

ScoMo does not join mate. He will self appoint as Ratten's replacement.

 

[Jivlain]

Wonder if there's anything to the rumours of ScoMo joining the bombers

Not sure what position he plays

The G-G has appointed him as their new senior coach

 

[Nuggo]

A secretly as their CEO, president and assistant coach. What could go wrong.

 

[Elixuh]

A secretly as their CEO, president and assistant coach. What could go wrong.

If the hanger is in a marginal seat he will turn their training ground into a multi story car park

 

[WhiteLionFeva]

Wonder if there's anything to the rumours of ScoMo joining the bombers

Not sure what position he plays

All of them apparently.

 

[bungalow_bill]

from an outside pov essendon feels like a club that believes its entitled to finals and flags. this isnt helped by people from the last era of success maintaining positions of power and influence both inside and outside the club (sheedy, lloyd....). i dont think anyone is willing to take the high road and build properly for success, rather its been 2 decades of chasing shortcuts back to the top which doesnt work. thats why we see constant board machinations and figures like dodoro getting long runs whilst coaches and players go through rotating door scenarios

i think this all culiminated for me this year in the absurd 150th celebrations where the main focal point was on james hird, a figure who had brought the club to the lowest point any afl club has ever faced that doesnt include being forced to move / merge. its ridiculous to me how hard the club tries to sanitise hird and what happened there. if somebody at brisbane did that, even if they were a premiership hero and / or captain i would want the club to rightfully consider them as exiled. essendon instead shake their head and pretend it was a nothing scenario.

Dodoro should have been sacked after picking McGrath instead of McCluggage at #1.

If they continue to self implode we may be able to pry Matho's best mate out of there

 

[JasRulz63]

Dodoro should have been sacked after picking McGrath instead of McCluggage at #1.

If they continue to self implode we may be able to pry Matho's best mate out of there

I've watched a fair bit of Essendon this year, and don't think we'd want Parish. Likes racking up numbers but doesn't do a lot with it, while also being poor at defensive running.

 

[rye]

I've watched a fair bit of Essendon this year, and don't think we'd want Parish. Likes racking up numbers but doesn't do a lot with it, while also being poor at defensive running.

we can fix him but dodo will want 2x first round picks and daniher back so no point

 

[bungalow_bill]

we can fix him but dodo will want 2x first round picks and daniher back so no point

For sure but he will be OOC and a free agent end of 23

 

[Viceregal]

we can fix him but dodo will want 2x first round picks and daniher back so no point

Let's hope beardancer isn't involved in Trade as he might be tempted just for the pleasure of the second element of your suggestion!

 

[Warwick]

I must admit it's moments like these you miss Snake Baker.

 

[briztoon]

 

[Warwick]

West Coast are going to get one hell of a shock over the coming years.

As I've said previously, this idea that it 'will happen because it's always happened' with regards to a speedy rebuild is complete garbage.

 

[M Malice]

Rebuilds can be done reasonably quickly, look at us as an example example, 2017-18, 5 wins each season finishing 18th and 15th then 2019 2nd on the H&A ladder, been up there and abouts ever since.

That is a bloody quick rebuild considering the mess we were in during the Leppa years.

Collingwood this year from 17th last season, could be an anomaly though, a lot of close wins that could have gone either way, hopefully they revert to the norm next season.

 

[dlanod]

I must admit it's moments like these you miss Snake Baker.

I disagree, there are no moments like that.

 

[dlanod]

Rebuilds can be done reasonably quickly, look at us as an example example, 2017-18, 5 wins each season finishing 18th and 15th then 2019 2nd on the H&A ladder, been up there and abouts ever since.

That is a bloody quick rebuild considering the mess we were in during the Leppa years.

If I look at us, we were effectively rebuilding from '06 to '18 - maybe we can consider '09 a break, but that's still nearly a decade. IMO if a rebuild fails and you start again again, you don't get to just reset the counter.

 

[M Malice]

I must admit it's moments like these you miss Snake Baker.

Has he completely disappeared off Big Footy? I used to interact with him on the non footy boards quite regularly, while we had some disagreements it was quite cordial.

He did lose it completely when it came to one particular Lions/Big O v Kangaroos game though, talk about an atomic meltdown.

 

[Dalions]

If I look at us, we were effectively rebuilding from '06 to '18 - maybe we can consider '09 a break, but that's still nearly a decade. IMO if a rebuild fails and you start again again, you don't get to just reset the counter.

I would probably consider it more of a full rebuild after the Fevola disaster.
So from 2012 through 2019 to even make finals.

 

[M Malice]

If I look at us, we were effectively rebuilding from '06 to '18 - maybe we can consider '09 a break, but that's still nearly a decade. IMO if a rebuild fails and you start again again, you don't get to just reset the counter.

So we should be thanking Vossy and Leppa for our current situation or at least giving them some credit?

Probably Swann(2014), + Noble and Fagan in 2017 coming in was the major turnaround... we finally got the front office in order.

 

[MSB ROYS]

I would probably consider it more of a full rebuild after the Fevola disaster.
So from 2012 through 2019 to even make finals.

Also were never in the top 8 at any time in the season...

 

[trikster]

Dodoro should have been sacked after picking McGrath instead of McCluggage at #1.

If they continue to self implode we may be able to pry Matho's best mate out of there

or Taranto for that matter

 

[Nunez]

or Taranto for that matter

Still can't believe how we got McCluggage and Berry when we rated Clugg as a pick #1.