North debt free for the first time since 1987

[Tasmanian saint]

Earning honest revenue playing small stadiums in tas> than taking in pokies money while advocating being a family club

They have done very well not bagging them at all . My point was how would things be if they have to play a
all there games in Melbourne

 

[HairyO]

So we’re cancelling all the return blockbusters and sharing time slots with an equal draw instead of a fixture?

Or are North (and others) still giving the rest of the comp assistance with those?

Im okay with this. Equal distributions and an actual draw. Im ok with maybe the bottom 6 playing eachother twice and the top 12 being random.

The AFL meddles and gifts rich clubs more money through better timeslots. Take that away and give the poorer clubs more access to the money and the AFL wont need the distributions.

They also need to make the salary floor 90% and allow the topups to go to 110%. Rebuilding clubs should be allowed to rebuild.

 

[HairyO]

Club	2020 AFL Distribution	2019 AFL Distribution
Adelaide	$10.23	$13.09
Brisbane	$15.40	$22.65
Carlton	$12.09	$13.86
Collingwood	$9.93	$11.53
Essendon	$8.99	$12.11
Fremantle	$9.54	$11.67
Geelong	$10.55	$12.61
Gold Coast	$16.94	$27.47
G.Western Sydney	$15.86	$26.94
Hawthorn	$9.10	$11.25
Melbourne	$12.61	$16.32
North Melbourne	$12.90	$17.62
Port Adelaide	$14.16	$19.42
Richmond	$10.88	$12.51
St Kilda	$16.16	$20.64
Sydney	$10.71	$14.70
West Coast	$9.81	$11.20
Western Bulldogs	$11.85	$16.53
Total	$217.70

We get attacked for having poker machines.

Maybe if the AFL gave us an extra $5m or $10m a year we could ditch them.

And maybe another $10m or $20m a year and GCS may be almost a football club.

 

[eastfreo75]

Im okay with this. Equal distributions and an actual draw. Im ok with maybe the bottom 6 playing eachother twice and the top 12 being random.

The AFL meddles and gifts rich clubs more money through better timeslots. Take that away and give the poorer clubs more access to the money and the AFL wont need the distributions.

They also need to make the salary floor 90% and allow the topups to go to 110%. Rebuilding clubs should be allowed to rebuild.

Can you explain why Fremantle having a lot of grave shifts but has the least amount of funding any AFL clubs over 20 years?

We pretty much break even each year but the likes of Richmond and Collingwood get more funding and post profits.

The last Friday game for the Dockers was in 2015, yet the Blues has 3 or 4 games a year but get $5m more funding.

 

[HairyO]

Can you explain why Fremantle having a lot of grave shifts but has the least amount of funding any AFL clubs over 20 years?

We pretty much break even each year but the likes of Richmond and Collingwood get more funding and post profits.

The last Friday game for the Dockers was in 2015, yet the Blues has 3 or 4 games a year but get $5m more funding.

The AFL are running business not a competition. Would like to see the 20 years of funding if you have it?

 

[Gough]

The AFL are running business not a competition. Would like to see the 20 years of funding if you have it?

You seem to be advocating a form of socialism that would appall you if applied in other circumstances.

 

[HairyO]

You seem to be advocating a form of socialism that would appall you if applied in other circumstances.

What they have now is socialism. Rewarding mediocrity and penalising success.

 

[eastfreo75]

The AFL are running business not a competition. Would like to see the 20 years of funding if you have it?

I will try to find it.

In meantime look at year to year and Fremantle is always bottom 4 in funding.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

This seems to put St Kilda in the gun.

 

[buttox]

What they have now is socialism. Rewarding mediocrity and penalising success.

Success is winning premierships. Not having lots of members.
Ask Carlton or Essendon.

 

[juddy_Like]

Well done to North.

News like this is what should be celebrated and discussed, not who the next Fitzroy is going to be.

The objective should always be for 18 strong clubs!

 

[RandB]

This is good news both for North and for the competition.

Obviously the focus is remaining debt free (to a degree) and improving on field which North supporters should be positive about now.

 

[lewdogs]

This seems to put St Kilda in the gun.

Why? We just paid off millions of our debt and have an awesome new facility.

Why does someone always have to be in the gun? Because it keeps the news flow going?

 

[Demonic Ascent]

Can you explain why Fremantle having a lot of grave shifts but has the least amount of funding any AFL clubs over 20 years?

We pretty much break even each year but the likes of Richmond and Collingwood get more funding and post profits.

The last Friday game for the Dockers was in 2015, yet the Blues has 3 or 4 games a year but get $5m more funding.

Freo gets all their games televised on FTA in WA though, I would guess North would be lucky to have had 7 games on FTA in Vic in 2021.

 

[Demonic Ascent]

This seems to put St Kilda in the gun.

Why? There will always be a team at the bottom of the financial ladder, I think the AFL has proven over 20 years that it can survive and thrive with the current number of clubs in Victoria.

 

[Demonic Ascent]

Well done to North, to be debt free for the first time in 34 years while consolidating their facilities, without relying on pokies money and with all the disadvantages they face with fixturing and stadium arrangements is no small feat. Lets hope they use this as a platform to build from over the next 10-20 years and become a great club again like they were in the 70s and 90s. Strong club's make for a stronger competition.

Over 46k members in a down year with minimal access to games is a fantastic achievement, only a couple of hundred below Footscray and a few thousand below Melbourne who played off in the GF.

 

[eastfreo75]

Freo gets all their games televised on FTA in WA though, I would guess North would be lucky to have had 7 games on FTA in Vic in 2021.

Im fine Roos getting more funding or any smaller Melbourne clubs but Collingwood, Carlton, Richmond, or Essendon that’s seriously taking the piss.

 

[HairyO]

Im fine Roos getting more funding or any smaller Melbourne clubs but Collingwood, Carlton, Richmond, or Essendon that’s seriously taking the piss.

The "Big 4" needing charity is kinda offensive.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Why? There will always be a team at the bottom of the financial ladder, I think the AFL has proven over 20 years that it can survive and thrive with the current number of clubs in Victoria.

I don’t really see the league with the same amount of Vic clubs in 10 years time.

 

[Demonic Ascent]

I don’t really see the league with the same amount of Vic clubs in 10 years time.

They've been saying that for 25 years, that time has come and gone. If the AFL couldn't relocate North to Gold Coast they have no hope of getting rid of teams in the future.

Maybe Hawks will elect to relocate to Tassie full time but personally I don't see it.

 

[Demonic Ascent]

Im fine Roos getting more funding or any smaller Melbourne clubs but Collingwood, Carlton, Richmond, or Essendon that’s seriously taking the piss.

Maybe however the additional funds allocated to those clubs was to do with training facilities from memory. AFL often allocates additional funds to clubs to assist with facilities in conjunction with government funding.

 

[Papa G]

I don’t really see the league with the same amount of Vic clubs in 10 years time.

The Vic State Government basically underwrites them all. The massive push back to complete Vic centricity of the league over the last decade has, in most part been on the back of the back-door deals between the AFL and the Vic Government. The massive public money spent on AFL facilities in the name of "community" and "women's sport". Look no further than the Arden Street development and countless others. The back scratching leads to such things as the corrupt MCG Contract. On thd back of these dodgy deals no Vic club will go under.

 

[eastfreo75]

Maybe however the additional funds allocated to those clubs was to do with training facilities from memory. AFL often allocates additional funds to clubs to assist with facilities in conjunction with government funding.

Every year? And Fremantle doesn't have training facilities?

 

[Daniltchenko You Beauty]

This seems to put St Kilda in the gun.

There is no gun

 

[Toump Ass]

Am I correct in saying that Paul Roos was working closely with North Melbourne/David Noble in 2021?
"Just asking the question"