Club Focus North Melbourne 2022 - Logue, Tucker, Sheezel, Wardlaw, George, Harvey, Drury, Free, Howe, Turner

[Taylor]

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[eth-dog]

Biggest issue for me is that their key defensive stocks are garbage

McKay is a jet but injury prone
Corr is not a good player, nearly 28 and injury prone
Walker is solid but 29 and has really only had the one full season of AFL last year.

And then there's McGuinness at 192? They have their FB and FF sorted for a while in McKay (if he stays injury free) and Larkey, but what's their plan for Comben, Edwards and CCJ? Have they tried any of them in defence, and if not, why not?

 

[The Nostradamus]

Biggest issue for me is that their key defensive stocks are garbage

McKay is a jet but injury prone
Corr is not a good player, nearly 28 and injury prone
Walker is solid but 29 and has really only had the one full season of AFL last year.

And then there's McGuinness at 192? They have their FB and FF sorted for a while in McKay (if he stays injury free) and Larkey, but what's their plan for Comben, Edwards and CCJ? Have they tried any of them in defence, and if not, why not?

We’ve been saying this for 2 years that KPD is an issue but our nuffy list management team don’t do anything about it

CCJ will be our main ruck, Comben partners Larkey up front.

Edwards would be that second ruck that goes forward also (Luke Jackson type) but jury is out and he may just be depth

 

[eth-dog]

We’ve been saying this for 2 years that KPD is an issue but our nuffy list management team don’t do anything about it

CCJ will be our main ruck, Comben partners Larkey up front.

Edwards would be that second ruck that goes forward also (Luke Jackson type) but jury is out and he may just be depth

I have Xerri (after a pretty solid start to the year) as your main ruck.

I reckon Comben should be the one to move back honestly.

 

[Le Grille]

I have Xerri (after a pretty solid start to the year) as your main ruck.

I reckon Comben should be the one to move back honestly.

Comben is thrown around as a potential chb on our board but I still think he needs to say fwd, he is a promising contested mark and if we can get him through his fitness issues he would be a perfect compliment with Larkeys smart leading.

I think for chb we need to recruit one.

 

[Mikevk123]

If you pay 550k to a non natural defender in Corr

Thats an issue

North picked him because he was having a good year before he left the giants. Playing the third tall interceptor role

 

[BIGHAWK23]

North picked him because he was having a good year before he left the giants. Playing the third tall interceptor role

 

[Le Grille]

North picked him because he was having a good year before he left the giants. Playing the third tall interceptor role

i think at the time he would have been that third tall, then Tarrant wanted to go.

 

[Nick Daicos Fan]

I suspect unbalanced lists are going to be a feature of rebuilds in the current context, as you only get so many top picks in a shallower pool (because covid and because 18 teams) and you only have so many list spots (because covid).

The fastest way to rebuild an entire list from the ground up appears to be to take whatever is available with a preference (where you don’t have to reach for it) for the types that take longer to develop, but that can potentially mean having depth and holes in all the wrong places for a while.

In that context there’s going to be a couple or a few hard seasons in between, while the shallow areas of the list can easily kill your chances with a couple of injuries, and the deep areas aren’t fully developed and have to learn on the job against stiff opposition.

It’s much easier to have a sustainable list and do a mini rebuild with one bad year every so often and keep near the top for longer though. Some clubs do it better than others.

Purely from a drafting perspective, sure.

But that's why you have the trading period right?

Plenty of suitors for North's talented midfielders, they should be learning from GWS' mistake and optimise team balance.

 

[Lore]

Purely from a drafting perspective, sure.

But that's why you have the trading period right?

Plenty of suitors for North's talented midfielders, they should be learning from GWS' mistake and optimise team balance.

Trade periods depend on the same finite amount of draft capital that you can use in the draft, so it is still limited. If you only need to replace 3 players that’s not the same as turning over half the list or more.

Free agency is a thing but the only free agents under 26 are previously delisted from elsewhere, so you’re basically hunting through the bargain bin and unlikely to come up with many Tim Kelly type options to rebuild the nucleus of an AFL standard list around.

 

[Elmer_Judd]

I think we are all unestimated the loss of Cunnington has been for North.

He is still (atm) their best player and their spiritual leader,and their young midfield and kids do look a bit lost out there.

Cannot put a price on what Cunnington gives for North..

 

[blackshadow]

Shaun Higgins
Ben Brown
Paul Ahern
Joel Crocker
Majak Daw
Sam Durdin
Lachlan Hosie
Ben Jacobs
Jamie Macmillan
Tom Murphy
Jasper Pittard
Marley Williams
Mason Wood

Most of these

 

[HBFlanker]

Most of these

So similar to the rubbish we are rolling out week after week this year.

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

JHF management has put contract extension negotiations on hold until the end of the year.

 

[blackshadow]

JHF management has put contract extension negotiations on hold until the end of the year.

Source?

 

[XhazzafootyX]

Source?

Sam Edmund

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Source?

SEN this morning .

 

[Mr north man]

Pick 1 and 11 would be a fair intervention to help us turn things around.

Will take more then that unfortunately need a professional audit of our club on the off the field from the Chairwomen down to the water carrier on match days.

 

[Chism]

Sam Edmund

Not a real good sign….

Horne-Francis puts contract negotiations with North Melbourne on hold

The No.1 draft pick has stepped away from talks.

www.sen.com.au

 

[eth-dog]

They rejected what will probably end up being pick 4, a top 10 pick and a late first for a kid that probably goes home anyway.

Take Gibcus, Wardlaw, Lemmey and Busslinger over the last two drafts.

 

[blackshadow]

for a kid that probably goes home anyway

He's going nowhere.

 

[Mr north man]

We will either have pick 1 or 2 depending on where will finish with NO Priority pick of any description giving to us.

 

[Profop]

‘Long-term approach’: Below-par Kangaroos say rebuild will take time as frustration grows

In this article Amarfio basically states that the club went into the process with it's eyes open on what it would look like and entail where in comes to on field performance

Would be farcical for the AFL to give over a priority pick to a club who has stated that their plan was to "spend three or four years near the bottom before contesting in finals around the sixth year"

 

[citizen-erased]

‘Long-term approach’: Below-par Kangaroos say rebuild will take time as frustration grows

In this article Amarfio basically states that the club went into the process with it's eyes open on what it would look like and entail where in comes to on field performance

Would be farcical for the AFL to give over a priority pick to a club who has stated that their plan was to "spend three or four years near the bottom before contesting in finals around the sixth year"

when did they consider it started though?
LDU - pick 4 in '17
Thomas - 7 in '18
Trade 8 in '19 that went to become Powell @ 13 in '20
Phillips - 3 in '20
JHF - 1 in '21
Consider also Stephenson as a cheap trade/
Have recruited a lot of highly rated young mids. But without the development, their pick will mean little moving forward

Is it another 2-3 years?

 

[blackshadow]

We will either have pick 1 or 2 depending on where will finish with NO Priority pick of any description giving to us.

We'll get at least one priority pick - AFL media started conditioning the football public a while ago.

 

[blackshadow]

Is it another 2-3 years?

For context the initial 2-3 year timeline was stated by Ben Buckley when Noble was appointed in late 2020.