North Melbourne Priority Pick 2021

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Really? West Coast have played 43 different players this year after 8 games.

North and West Coast are in completely different situations, West Coast have just dropped down while North have been in rebuild for a few years now and have the young players.

Really going to question Hurn’s leadership? He is a premiership captain and voted the leagues best captain in 2019. He is 34 years old and this stage of his career might be interested in a mentoring role. Of course there are other players out there but I’m not Brayshaw at 26 in his prime is ready for a mentoring role at this stage of his career but certainly a quality player for any club, Lambert certainly would fit the criteria.
Yes, they have given up. Teams fall off when it’s flags or bust and have a poor start eg. Dees 2019 or Freo 2016 but they have been shocking and not even trying some games with hardly any out with Covid. The young blokes on the list not playing have looked as bad as the older blokes, they should be pumped getting games.

Hurn turns 35 this year so the same age when Hodge retired plus being a WA based player he has a lot of miles in the legs. Just can’t see it being worth it for onfield leadership, even if he wanted to come.
 

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Yes, they have given up. Teams fall off when it’s flags or bust and have a poor start eg. Dees 2019 or Freo 2016 but they have been shocking and not even trying some games with hardly any out with Covid. The young blokes on the list not playing have looked as bad as the older blokes, they should be pumped getting games.

Hurn turns 35 this year so the same age when Hodge retired plus being a WA based player he has a lot of miles in the legs. Just can’t see it being worth it for onfield leadership, even if he wanted to come.
Hodge originally retired at 33 but was excited by the role up at Brisbane and he still could of gone on longer.

Hurn similar, a new challenge might excite him, I don’t know what his next career aspirations are but this could be a entry way into coaching.

Hurn himself is still playing reasonable footy (7th in the league for marks) for a 35 year old 300 game player. He saw at 18 his teammates win a premiership in 2006, he went through West Coast little rebuild stage, plays 19 finals and captains his team to a 2015 Grand Final and a 2018 premiership. That sort of experience I think would be huge for North’s young players to be training and playing along side for a year or two.
 

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aren't they getting a gift in Culley, picks shouldn't be handed out.
 

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aren't they getting a gift in Culley, picks shouldn't be handed out.

What are your thoughts on Brisbane getting the (probable) number 1 pick this season in Will Ashcroft ?

I actually think F/S and Boom NGA selections like him and Nick Daicos is more reason to let North have a Priority Pick.


Fans are happy to have probably the 2nd favourite premiership favourites get probably the best kid in the country handed to them on a silver platter for basically nothing (fundamentally) but revolt against the thought of poor battling North Melbourne, who have never had any kind of bonus draft assistance at all, getting a priority pick for putting back to back wooden spoon seasons, and on track to be bad as a dying Fitzroy in the mid 90s ?

Not signalling you specifically, but generally speaking, there is no rational or fair reason to allow Brisbane to draft Ashcroft, but we allow it cause its part of 'footy tradition and folklore'

If North do not get a Priority Pick this season, I think they should also abolish the Father/Son rule and only keep Academy Zone selections for clubs in non traditional football states.
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What are your thoughts on Brisbane getting the (probable) number 1 pick this season in Will Ashcroft ?

I actually think F/S and Boom NGA selections like him and Nick Daicos is more reason to let North have a Priority Pick.


Fans are happy to have probably the 2nd favourite premiership favourites get probably the best kid in the country handed to them on a silver platter for basically nothing (fundamentally) but revolt against the thought of poor battling North Melbourne, who have never had any kind of bonus draft assistance at all, getting a priority pick for putting back to back wooden spoon seasons, and on track to be bad as a dying Fitzroy in the mid 90s ?

Not signalling you specifically, but generally speaking, there is no rational or fair reason to allow Brisbane to draft Ashcroft, but we allow it cause its part of 'footy tradition and folklore'

If North do not get a Priority Pick this season, I think they should also abolish the Father/Son rule and only keep Academy Zone selections for clubs in non traditional football states.
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You make a good point. The value of a bonus pick or bonus talent via some list concession tends to carry on for a decade.

Let's take a look at Tom Hawkins. Arguably the #1 pick of that draft. Cats get him for a 3rd round pick as a father son and take Joel Selwood with their pick #7.

The rules are changed later, but those players and the benefit of the previous rule are still intact.

I put it to you that the issue has been the AFL trying to fit 16 and then 18 teams into the top eight every year, rushing to make that churn of teams faster by changing the system and then constantly chasing it's own tail to equalize from what it changed initially.

The draft is intended to give each side a top pick on average every decade and a half. The AFL toyed with that self equalising system by introducing priority picks with arbitrary rules and the clubs figured out that it's better to fill that last list spot with a pick #1 or #17 over a pick #62.

Father son picks are something the league has not got an equal playing field on, it heavily benefits the clubs that have been around for a very long time, back when those clubs could get players because his father was an administrator at the club, but the rule is set at 100 games now.

I don't particularly think it's fair for clubs like Fremantle who are now just starting to enter the period of club life where father son picks will begin filtering through that the system is changed again, meanwhile the clubs in the competition retain the benefits they had from the previous rule applying for their father son picks.

Brisbane are going to have to burn significant draft capital to buy a top three pick, and almost every club would if presented with the deal:
Get pick #1, give up #18, #18, #35, #63

Clubs like North Melbourne and Essendon have a right to be upset about having to pay a top pick for their father sons.

The whole reason we even needed the points was because the academy clubs were getting much more regular benefit of a priority access compromising the system, and then the father son picks got lumped in with that.
 

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What are your thoughts on Brisbane getting the (probable) number 1 pick this season in Will Ashcroft ?

I actually think F/S and Boom NGA selections like him and Nick Daicos is more reason to let North have a Priority Pick.


Fans are happy to have probably the 2nd favourite premiership favourites get probably the best kid in the country handed to them on a silver platter for basically nothing (fundamentally) but revolt against the thought of poor battling North Melbourne, who have never had any kind of bonus draft assistance at all, getting a priority pick for putting back to back wooden spoon seasons, and on track to be bad as a dying Fitzroy in the mid 90s ?

Not signalling you specifically, but generally speaking, there is no rational or fair reason to allow Brisbane to draft Ashcroft, but we allow it cause its part of 'footy tradition and folklore'

If North do not get a Priority Pick this season, I think they should also abolish the Father/Son rule and only keep Academy Zone selections for clubs in non traditional football states.
.l
Just because a club is crap they shouldn't hand out picks. Get the recruiting and development right by having the right people, Father sons are awesome for all clubs, when you get a good one like Brisbane are about too good on them. Priority picks are plain wrong.
 

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Hurn himself is still playing reasonable footy (7th in the league for marks) for a 35 year old 300 game player. He saw at 18 his teammates win a premiership in 2006, he went through West Coast little rebuild stage, plays 19 finals and captains his team to a 2015 Grand Final and a 2018 premiership. That sort of experience I think would be huge for North’s young players to be training and playing along side for a year or two.
Hurn just popped his calf, he’s cooked
 

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He's a fitter version of ben cunnington. Would be your best mid unless JHF does a 180 and stays.
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Look let's just assume at this point North will get a PP or some kind of draft assistance from the AFL, what is the fairest way for all clubs for the league to help North out?

I think pick 10 in the first round, and a couple of extra list spots for state league players would be good.

Also I think North and the Eagles current struggles means they should hold back bringing back a Tassie team for the foreseeable future.

Personally i dont like the PP and dont believe another 18 year old kid (if they get the pick right is going to help them quickly)

My belief is if a team has been bottom 4 for 3 years and won less than 15 games in that 3 years then
* Extra 5 Rookie spots on the list outside the cap
*$500k extra to spend in the soft cap for 3 more development coaches

Would be more beneficial than 1 extra 18 year old kid that may turn out to be the next Tambling , Malera , Dow etc
 

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See what you are stating there is different, it’s measured reasoned and is a discussion. What I’ve seen elsewhere is pretty different .

My thought in Carlton is my perspective it seemed every year they are bringing in a high priced recruit hence my comments on the recruiting method I’m sure looking deeper as a blues guy would I’d see something different.
How is that any different to what North were trying to do with all the big $$$ they were throwing around at just about every free agent ?
Martin , Kelly , De Goey , Gaff etc etc
 

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How is that any different to what North were trying to do with all the big $$$ they were throwing around at just about every free agent ?
Martin , Kelly , De Goey , Gaff etc etc
Bit of a difference in quality between Dustin Martin and Mitch McGovern.
 

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If he can’t get on the field, his leadership would be greatly reduced. Better off being a coach.
As I stated earlier it’s an introduction to coaching. But this is one injury. He’s played every game so far this year and in decent form. Do you think Nat Fyfe would be better off as a coach because he can’t get on the field?
 
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As I stated earlier it’s an introduction to coaching. But this is one injury. He’s played every game so far this year and in decent form. Do you think Nat Fyfe would be better off as a coach because he can’t get on the field?
Calf is the old man injury. He’s 4 years older than Fyfe so there is a difference. I wouldn’t be suggesting getting Mundy either but he’s actually had less injuries & been more durable.
 

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Did someone just say Ed Curnow is better than Ben Cunnington LOL
 

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Calf is the old man injury. He’s 4 years older than Fyfe so there is a difference. I wouldn’t be suggesting getting Mundy either but he’s actually had less injuries & been more durable.
Hurn has a calf niggle, will probably end up being a week injury. Will hardly say he’s cooked when comparing him to the younger Fyfe
 

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How is that any different to what North were trying to do with all the big $$$ they were throwing around at just about every free agent ?
Martin , Kelly , De Goey , Gaff etc etc
I think it’s different as they were specifically targeted players to address a need (there was a distinct lack of a grade talent) had we landed one or two of those targets that would have been the end of it.

Carlton in my opinion took it way over the top McGovern,Docherty, Saad,McGovern, Touhy, Williams, Martin all on big $ to me that is excessive it’s a pretty big difference than a couple of signings. I didn’t think it’d lead to any success but that said they are winning games now so maybe it will
 

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