Traded North Melbourne trade #8 to Melbourne for #26, #50 & 2020 1st Round Pick

[Gysberts2Bate]

Please be Corey Wagner.

Probably Kyle Dunkley. Maybe Jay Lockhart.

 

[Dez!]

Don't mind this at all, quite confident our first round pick next year will be mid to late even before the NGA/FS picks.

 

[TheGrizz]

Yep been linked to Weightman. 8 does seem early for a small forward.

Cyril went top 10 I believe.
Adelaide took a small forward last year too.

 

[Elmer_Judd]

Who actually signed off on this deal for North, as incoming recruiting guru, Brady Rawlings isn't allowed to start work at NMFC till December?

 

[The Warlord]

Cyril went top 10 I believe.
Adelaide took a small forward last year too.

Cyril didn't go top ten and Chayce Jones is a midfielder.

 

[Randomizor]

Our games are such prawn sandwich meh affairs. I'm not even sure this trade will bring an edge.

We have probably given you one of Ash/Kemp/Stephens/Flanders

Just be grateful.

Apart from St.Kilda, we have to be the two most depressing clubs to support.

Freo fan checking in here...

 

[The Filth Wizard]

Who actually signed off on this deal for North, as incoming recruiting guru, Brady Rawlings isn't allowed to start work at NMFC till December?

Exactly.

Exactly...

 

[Quintero]

Freo fan checking in here...

We took 50 years to win one, mate.

50.

Now the old timers reckon we were molested by the umps in '49 but that is still 6 years (18 v 24) after your 1st GF appearance.

We are farrrrrrr more depressing and at least you can fill your ground when you're up and about.

St.Kilda wins this btw.
They have won 2 grand finals and have only one cup to show for it!

 

[Wild Bill]

Don't mind this at all, quite confident our first round pick next year will be mid to late even before the NGA/FS picks.

All bar the Sun supporters would think the same thing.

 

[Thewlis Dish]

Who actually signed off on this deal for North, as incoming recruiting guru, Brady Rawlings isn't allowed to start work at NMFC till December?

I'd say likely the current list manager, Michael McMahon. Presumably with input from Mark Finnigan, the national recruitment manager, as to the perceived value of the picks.

But, haha Rhyce Shaw is currently doing all roles lol thanks Purple

 

[Dr Awkward]

People saying risky for Melb, I think way more risky for north.

Melbourne improve & with all the academy picks, the future first could be in the teens without melb playing finals.

Not risky for North at all.

Even if Melbourne win the flag, North are ahead on draft points in this trade

 

[Dez!]

Not risky for North at all.

Even if Melbourne win the flag, North are ahead on draft points in this trade

Which are irrelevant unless you have NGA or F/S picks.

 

[nahnah]

Potentially traded pick 2, 26, 50 for pick 8. I know they will have a way easier draw next year but from what I saw of them they were genuinely bottom 4 last year

 

[Dr Awkward]

Which are irrelevant unless you have NGA or F/S picks.

They're not irrelevant, they're an objective measure of the value of draft picks.

Honestly I would take pick 18 and pick 26 over pick 8.

Plus there is a very real possibility that Melbourne's first rounder next year will actually be better than pick 8, in which case this is a disaster for Melbourne

 

[demon21]

Not risky for North at all.

Even if Melbourne win the flag, North are ahead on draft points in this trade

Lol i don't think what the draft points add up too determines who wins or lose a trade.

 

[Freoforever86]

Not risky for North at all.

Even if Melbourne win the flag, North are ahead on draft points in this trade

draft points aren't everything obviously. Id take 8 over a speculative pick and 26. Much more likely to hit a winner with a kid on 8.

 

[PrinceCharles]

North win on assets. Melbourne win on bringing things forward.

North fans win because they get a good Melbourne Death Ride. That's a pretty tasty proposition.

This, you'd almost pay a second rounder to have an extra year of development. People underestimate that.

Melbourne are more likely to struggle. Despite all the crap that happened this year, we didn't finish bottom 4. North have been largely consistent over the years, Melbourne have been way more flakey.

How you finish has zero relevance here.

 

[Dr Awkward]

draft points aren't everything obviously. Id take 8 over a speculative pick and 26. Much more likely to hit a winner with a kid on 8.

You realise that the speculative pick could be above pick 8. It's likely to be in the range of pick 2 - 12. Even with a lot of academy picks, a lot has to go right for Melbourne to win this trade.

Have a look at the history of the draft, you would take the two players you get from pick 26 and pick 12 over what you get at pick 8.

Pick 8's are still barely a 50% hit rate

 

[Wild Bill]

This, you'd almost pay a second rounder to have an extra year of development. People underestimate that.

How you finish has zero relevance here.

What if they draft Kemp? He is right in the mix at 8.

 

[Dr Awkward]

This, you'd almost pay a second rounder to have an extra year of development. People underestimate that.

Why? Melbourne finished 17th this year. Yes they under-achieved but it would be silly to start a short-term strategy.

 

[PrinceCharles]

Why? Melbourne finished 17th this year. Yes they under-achieved but it would be silly to start a short-term strategy.

What's short term about it?

 

[JZTIME!]

People saying risky for Melb, I think way more risky for north.

Melbourne improve & with all the academy picks, the future first could be in the teens without melb playing finals.

We can't lose, even if they win the flag we come out on top points wise. My type of trading, especially when the aforementioned is so unlikely.

 

[PrinceCharles]

We can't lose, even if they win the flag we come out on top points wise. My type of trading, especially when the aforementioned is so unlikely.

But you're not trying to win a points battle, you should be trying to build a list to win a premiership. Will be interesting to see what they do from here.

 

[Pykie]

This, you'd almost pay a second rounder to have an extra year of development. People underestimate that.

How you finish has zero relevance here.

Well, it is and isn’t irrelevant.

If we finish higher because we’ve beaten Melbourne twice and forced that pick higher, it is relevant where we finish.

 

[JZTIME!]

But you're not trying to win a points battle, you should be trying to build a list to win a premiership. Will be interesting to see what they do from here.

i see what you are saying here. Gone are the days we deal in 3rd and 4th round pick swaps for Hrovat. We are willing to deal, player managers will know we are willing to so will get deals done. Bodes well for us from a trade perspective. I think it makes a statement more than anything else. Pretty chuffed as next years draft is so compromised its all about the points. We are posturing ourselves nicely