Club Focus North Melbourne

Do they need a priority pick in 2020?

  • Yes

    Votes: 32 26.4%
  • No

    Votes: 75 62.0%
  • Maybe next year

    Votes: 14 11.6%

  • Total voters
    121

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Bruce was horrible last year. Played 1 good game and 16 bad ones. If you think that was ok then you have set the bar really low.
nobody is denying last year was bad for Bruce.

he’s kicked more goals already this year than he did the whole 2020.

again, Larkey being as good as Bruce looks best-case scenario for Larkey. But he’d want to get a move on because he’s shown far less at the same age.

it’s more likely Larkey goes the way of Sam Durdin
 

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nobody is denying last year was bad for Bruce.

he’s kicked more goals already this year than he did the whole 2020.

again, Larkey being as good as Bruce looks best-case scenario for Larkey. But he’d want to get a move on because he’s shown far less at the same age.

it’s more likely Larkey goes the way of Sam Durdin
Shown far less? Have a spell I think.

Bruce was a bit part player in his first 4 years and had his breakout year at 23.

Larkey won the frosty Miller at 19 years of age and has proceeded to kick 1.5+ goals a game for his career except for last year.
 

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nobody is denying last year was bad for Bruce.

he’s kicked more goals already this year than he did the whole 2020.

again, Larkey being as good as Bruce looks best-case scenario for Larkey. But he’d want to get a move on because he’s shown far less at the same age.

it’s more likely Larkey goes the way of Sam Durdin
Bruce wouldn’t have had a possession playing for the Roos the other today. Good when it’s easy - horrible when it’s hard. Did you see bottom 50 for 2020?
 

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Bruce wouldn’t have had a possession playing for the Roos the other today. Good when it’s easy - horrible when it’s hard. Did you see bottom 50 for 2020?
again. Are you actually quoting a bay 13 list in a proper discussion? You are surely taking ths

Shown far less? Have a spell I think.

Bruce was a bit part player in his first 4 years and had his breakout year at 23.

Larkey won the frosty Miller at 19 years of age and has proceeded to kick 1.5+ goals a game for his career except for last year.
Bruce’s breakout year was the year he turned 23. Both he and Larkey were born in June, so this year is Larkey’s equivalent in age.

he averaged more than two goals a game that year in a six win team, kicking more goals in one season than Larkey

as for being a bit part player, he was a pre-listed gws player who was playing as a defender. You can hardly compare him to Larkey based on goal stats.

If Nick Larkey ends up as good as Bruce (averaging 1.5 goals a game over his career) North will be happy enough.

Larkey’s not your answer. He’s Bruce/Chris Dawes at best
 

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again. Are you actually quoting a bay 13 list in a proper discussion? You are surely taking ths



Bruce’s breakout year was the year he turned 23. Both he and Larkey were born in June, so this year is Larkey’s equivalent in age.

he averaged more than two goals a game that year in a six win team, kicking more goals in one season than Larkey

as for being a bit part player, he was a pre-listed gws player who was playing as a defender. You can hardly compare him to Larkey based on goal stats.

If Nick Larkey ends up as good as Bruce (averaging 1.5 goals a game over his career) North will be happy enough.

Larkey’s not your answer. He’s Bruce/Chris Dawes at best
It was harsh but fair. He was putrid last year and how he kept getting a game was amazing.
 

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Here lies a genuine flaw in how people try to discuss/view football here.

Josh Bruce isn’t a star. But he’s a 200 goal key forward. He had a horrible 2020 but most reasonable judges could see there were some mitigating factors.

The western bulldogs didn’t trade for him to be prime Nick Riewoldt, they traded him to play a role. And now he’s fitter that seems to be working.

Now, north draft a kpf with pick 70 odd. They say things like “in xx team he’d kick 12, because if Josh Bruce can he can”. I can guarantee there will be consternation about Larkey being mentioned as a Bruce/Dawes type.

it’s bigfooty 101. A player is either a star or a dud. Each young player is going to be better than your duds.
 

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nobody is denying last year was bad for Bruce.

he’s kicked more goals already this year than he did the whole 2020.

again, Larkey being as good as Bruce looks best-case scenario for Larkey. But he’d want to get a move on because he’s shown far less at the same age.

it’s more likely Larkey goes the way of Sam Durdin
Turn it up.

Here's a puff piece about king having kicked more goals in his first 30 odd games than a lot of key forwards.



King has kicked 60 goals from his 37 games and is well advanced on some of the competition's best goalkickers at the same stage.

A quick comparison with Tom Lynch, Josh Kennedy, Jack Riewoldt and Tom Hawkins – all forwards slightly different, but with similar traits – shows King is faring well.

None of that decorated quartet had kicked even 50 goals through the same number of games, with Hawkins (47) the closest.
Larkey has 48 goals from 35 games, playing #1 forward for the last 18 months.

He'll be fine.
 

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Turn it up.

Here's a puff piece about king having kicked more goals in his first 30 odd games than a lot of key forwards.
Now do Schache, who also compares well at a similar age. The eyeball test says a lot.
Larkey is ok, Comben shows real signs, I like Xerri, but having a promising kid turn into a KPF who competes week in, week out is still a big step to take.
 

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Now do Schache, who also compares well at a similar age. The eyeball test says a lot.
Larkey is ok, Comben shows real signs, I like Xerri, but having a promising kid turn into a KPF who competes week in, week out is still a big step to take.
42 goals from his first 40 games.

I agree, but larkey was killing it when he wasn't playing as the single tall. He's struggled with being double teamed and copping probably the worst delivery in the league.
 

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42 goals from his first 40 games.

I agree, but larkey was killing it when he wasn't playing as the single tall. He's struggled with being double teamed and copping probably the worst delivery in the league.
Thsi is where the 'play the kids' arguments break down.
A solid senior player can do wonders for a developing kid. JPF is hard enought o play, let alone as a kid without an experienced player alongside them. The Josh Bruce flex above s a bit weird for that reason alone.
Defenders need the same guidance, especially in an era of zone defence. Tarrant, and Ziebull going back, mean you're set there.
 

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I think we will go tall in the MSD, especially with the top end of the ND being midfielders.

I can see us targeting a few u/23 talls around the league a few years into the system such as CCJ, McAsey also.
 

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I wouldn't be happy to see North get a priority pick. They haven't even won a wooden spoon yet.

And this year they could get a crack at getting some uncontracted players in or even better unrestricted free agents.

I would be looking at 4 ready made players plus 3 from the draft

1. Free Agent (Top Tier) in this order (make them an offer they can't refuse) you have the money
1. Kelly 2. Cripps 3.Jarryd Lyons 4. Matt Crouch

2. Free Agent (not a top tier player) someone with leadership qualities but lower pay grade but best 22
1.Tom Lynch (Ade) 2. Daniel Talia 3 Ed Curnow 4. Neville Jetta 5. Sam Reid (Syd)

3. 2 players uncontracted that you could get for 2nd round pick or less

Seedsman, Fogarty, Adams, Noble, Sier, Constable, Flanders, Buntine, Neal-Bullen, Sparrow, Bonner, Farrell, Lienert, Soldo, Garthwaite, Ronke

Cerra would be good but you'd have to give up too much you want players and draft choices

I reckon with 2 more kids (high draft choices) and 3 decent players you'll get better pretty quick.
 

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Would love both of them at north!
Not sure what Fiorini is on, but I don't think we've have any qualms handing him over.
Don't think he's much chance of getting back into the midfield on a regular basis

No chance we are letting Flanders go at this point though.
He's just into his second year and starting to get a bit more of a taste of it, played his best game last week when given a bit of midfield time and looked really good. Pretty much been exclusively played as a small forward before then.
 

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Not sure what Fiorini is on, but I don't think we've have any qualms handing him over.
Don't think he's much chance of getting back into the midfield on a regular basis

No chance we are letting Flanders go at this point though.
He's just into his second year and starting to get a bit more of a taste of it, played his best game last week when given a bit of midfield time and looked really good. Pretty much been exclusively played as a small forward before then.
Fiorini I'll have in a heartbeat, Flanders no chance you let go as you say.
 

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We are 0-7 but:

* First three picks in the draft are all playing and showing good signs, Powell in particular looks a beauty
* Blokes we opicked up from other clubs in Stepho, Atu, Corr have all played and all look good

The rebuild is progressing very nicely.
 

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The western bulldogs didn’t trade for him to be prime Nick Riewoldt, they traded him to play a role. And now he’s fitter that seems to be working.
Shame you only get to play us twice a season max for a while, given Josh Bruce's only role is "that shitman that kicks a bag against North but is laughable against everyone else."

Every team has one.

Majak kicked a bag against you guys once.

They exist.

But Bruce isn't even a good role player.
 

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Shame you only get to play us twice a season max for a while, given Josh Bruce's only role is "that shitman that kicks a bag against North but is laughable against everyone else."

Every team has one.

Majak kicked a bag against you guys once.

They exist.

But Bruce isn't even a good role player.
Bruce had a bad night Friday but has kicked at least a goal in every game this season and takes a seasoned defender away from Naughton and English while also on the weekend relieving in the ruck. The epitome of role player.

Meanwhile north leave larkey to battle alone with cam zurhaar as a second tall
 

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Bruce had a bad night Friday but has kicked at least a goal in every game this season and takes a seasoned defender away from Naughton and English while also on the weekend relieving in the ruck. The epitome of role player.

Meanwhile north leave larkey to battle alone with cam zurhaar as a second tall
We've got big Bobby Campbell down there now!

Amazed you guys didn't go for Ben Brown.

Ten times the player Bruce is, and with that midfield and ahem, the success of your Umpire Liaison Unit, he would be doing amazing things for you.
 

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