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McKay played 22 games last year and is in his physical prime. Probably fair to expect him to play.
The Pies are doing fine with Moore and mid sized types. It’s not the difference between them competing and getting blown off the park each week.
If they had another high pick I’m sure they’d go after a tall. Sometimes the draft doesn’t fall your way early in a rebuild.
A mature swing man would be wise, they might find one in the mid season draft.
A Gibcus or DGB would be having 5 kicked on them each week the way North have been playing anyway. Not sure that would help their development.
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Saints are, but Bulldogs are probably smaller. Bulldogs only have 1-2k more members than North despite having won a flag in 2016 and North not having played finals since then.
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Starts with the CEO, as Essendon supporters well know.
The CEO at North on his time at Cricket Australia
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The CEO at North on his time at Cricket Australia
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Anyone watching Footy Classified last night would have seen McGuire explaining what he had proposed in the Tasmanian taskforce and what it would take with the NT taskforce, would mean that a decade of funding for 2 new teams looks something like this....
Approximate 10-year AFL funding totals (2026-36)
Tasmania $400m+ ($20m Annually from the AFL and another $20m from State/Fed government)
Northern Territory $400m+ ($20m Annually from the AFL and another $20m from State/Fed government)
GWS - $203m
Gold Coast - $198m
Brisbane - $160m
St Kilda - $156m
Western Bulldogs - $139m
North Melbourne $134m
Melbourne $132m
Port Adelaide - $122m
Sydney - $117m
Richmond - $106
Carlton - $105m
Essendon - $100m
Adelaide - $99.7m
Fremantle - $99m
Hawthorn - $96.5m
Geelong - $95.8m
West Coast - $93.5m
Collingwood - $93.3m
At this point, are the AFL better to remove North Melbourne and drop 100 years of history, 46,000 members and a endure a whole lot of public shame for killing the club? Not to mention, the club HQ is central largest urban redevelopment in the history of Melbourne, they are a key stakeholder and stand to make huge financial windfalls from the Arden precinct big build (Arden Precinct - VPA)
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Why is everyone so short-sighted?
The simple fact is that the club is financially secure and so they have time to get the onfield stuff right. With the draft, it’s only a matter of time before they head up the ladder again.
Bringing in a new coach (if required), doesn’t take much time to enact.
If they are still getting pounded each week in 3 years time, then that would be concern. However, that’s highly unlikely.
Not sure why all the hysteria over this season. It will sort itself out.
The simple fact is that the club is financially secure and so they have time to get the onfield stuff right. With the draft, it’s only a matter of time before they head up the ladder again.
Bringing in a new coach (if required), doesn’t take much time to enact.
If they are still getting pounded each week in 3 years time, then that would be concern. However, that’s highly unlikely.
Not sure why all the hysteria over this season. It will sort itself out.
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If you lived in Tassie would you be more likely to switch support to North Melbourne with a different mascot or a genuine, new team representing your state?
The answer for most will be the latter, which is exactly why a relocated team will never work.
Dude, they operate at a $15m deficit FFS!!
They are very, very far from financially secure. The one thing that keeps them afloat is AFL funding.
I know you are mentally challenged or a 12 year old kid or something, but I really want to see the math that got you to that figure.
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Man, can you shut the f*ck up. No one likes your opinion
This point is raised by a few and it is a valid INITIAL response by some. However as Sydney/South Melbourne has shown and as is demonstrated in so many other team relocation's around the world in other sports the truth is; in time it is embraced. Once it is embedded and truly becomes part of the community, everyone realises it is truly their representation. The support grows and it evolves into their AFL team.
It has to fully embrace and embed itself in the community, as Sydney has done and it moves forward. Without deep diving into the human experience, there are examples everywhere of the human response in this area throughout life. Provided the new addition, from elsewhere originally, truly becomes a valued part of the group/family/community, it is eventually not only accepted, but loved.
Team relocation's happen, work and are eventually embraced as one of their own. We've already proven it to be the case in AFL.
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It's not an opinion. It's a fact.
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They're really not doing too badly. Better over the past decade than St Kilda and Dogs in VIC, only slightly behind Melbourne.
The AFL subsides every club, it's not if, it's how much.
AFL funding ladder revealed: $100m gap between top and bottom clubs
The size of the gap is a sore point for some power clubs, with Essendon president Paul Brasher demanding a say in how the next round of money is doled out.
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Yes, you're absolutely right.
Let's cull all the leaners and strip the AFL back to only those with a proven financial viability.
Sure, some whingers might say that a league comprising only of Collingwood, Hawthorn, Geelong and West Coast could get a bit repetitive.
But when the scroungers are forced to watch NRL, who'll be laughing then eh?
All the Melbourne remaining clubs benefit by having less teams fighting over the same area corporate dollar and supporter base, while those that relocate themselves gain all the new ground market and become stronger, as described earlier and as Sydney/South Melbourne exemplifies. It really is mathematics so the debate can occur regarding which team/teams should relocate, but there is no debate that relocation, in and of itself, is the answer. The AFL, business groups and sponsors already know this, as most are aware and keep trying to make it happen. However, as occurs throughout society, there will always be some holding the group back from successful evolution. Unfortunately those that continually struggle, whilst holding others down with them and refusing to evolve, come to an end eventually, allowing the group to continue to successfully evolve.They're really not doing too badly. Better over the past decade than St Kilda and Dogs in VIC, only slightly behind Melbourne.
The AFL subsides every club, it's not if, it's how much.
AFL funding ladder revealed: $100m gap between top and bottom clubs
The size of the gap is a sore point for some power clubs, with Essendon president Paul Brasher demanding a say in how the next round of money is doled out.www.theage.com.au
It's not a matter of if, but when for those that can't grasp the survival picture.
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I'm worried for you.
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Sydney (and to a lesser extent Brisbane as the Lions) were expanded into non-traditional AFL markets with the point to try and make NEW fans in highly populated areas.
The majority of sports fans in Tasmania would already passionately support an AFL club. You aren't getting them to shift their allegiance to an existing side that easily. You CAN get them to get behind a team representing their own state/city.
No that's completely incorrect and all the evidence says otherwise, in fact it will be even easier in an AFL supported demographic. That kind of thinking is short term and not born out by any evidence at all. Over time they become embedded and embraced, as happens all around the world in other sports that re-locate as well. It is a knee-jerk thought process incapable of projecting long term or reviewing evidence.
In time they become part of the fabric and the kids and community grow up supporting them and taking pathway opportunities. It doesn't matter whether it is NFL, Baseball, WAFL or AFL, the evidence shows it happens all the time. You have to be able to project forward and understand the eventual embedding and acceptance.
What doesn't work is the half-assed non committed pretend efforts like the Hawks and Kangas have been doing. That only works where areas have no chance of a team in any form so get on board what they can. Once a community is in Tasmania's position, that approach just leaves the community feeling as lower class add-ons to a group, being milked and not really valued or supported. The team has to move, commit and genuinely become Tasmania's team.
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I would agree it would work for a team that is already heavily supporter. If you moved a Collingwood or Richmond down to Tassie I think it just could work.
A team that is already considered a minnow in regards to support? Moving them into enemy territory will be damn near impossible to sell to locals and likely result in the remaining Melbourne based Roos supporters jumping off completely. It would be a mess until it 'works', as you claim it would.
Every odd Melbourne based supporter loss will be more than cancelled by the gains. Once again it is done around the world, we know all this.
A lower supported team is actually the ideal. If you lose 10 per cent of North supporters initially it is only x amount. If you lose 10 percent of Collingwood supporters initially, it is far more dramatic. Nonetheless however, the long term completely outweighs the short term losses.
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Seems like they will be ok in short term.
Brady Rawlings, Scott Clayton and Noble himself should be able to work with whatever part time staff are left from list management and deal with mid-season rookie draft easily next week.
It just odd these outgoing guys leave whilst you building a list when still more work to be done.
Seem to have plenty of young midfield options but elite key position types is the next area they need to target at the end of season draft.
Larkey and Ben McKay the only guys that look obvious for the rest of this decade to fill two of those key position roles.
Poach Wells from Cats to do a job for two or three years and he teach an understudy to take over after that.
Aim to make finals in 2025 or 2026 and be a contender by end of the decade.
Brady Rawlings, Scott Clayton and Noble himself should be able to work with whatever part time staff are left from list management and deal with mid-season rookie draft easily next week.
It just odd these outgoing guys leave whilst you building a list when still more work to be done.
Seem to have plenty of young midfield options but elite key position types is the next area they need to target at the end of season draft.
Larkey and Ben McKay the only guys that look obvious for the rest of this decade to fill two of those key position roles.
Poach Wells from Cats to do a job for two or three years and he teach an understudy to take over after that.
Aim to make finals in 2025 or 2026 and be a contender by end of the decade.
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That's very impressive, especially given the lack of gambling revenue.
Genuine question, is it a position that would continue without Tassie revenue/sponsor money when a team starts down there?
