Not Worth A Thread - Random Bulldog Discussion

[worbod]

You appeared on World of Sport, and spoke with Lou. And you're wearing a VFL guernsey. You truly have lived.

 

[Yojimbo]

Premiers of the AFL era (1990 to 2016)

Rank 1- Hawthorn 1991, 2008, 2013, 2014, 2015. = 5
Rank 2- Brisbane 2001, 2002, 2003. = 3
Rank 3- Geelong 2007, 2009, 2011. = 3
Rank 4- West Coast 1992, 1994, 2006. = 3
Rank 5- Sydney 2005, 2012. = 2
Rank 6- Collingwood 1990, 2010. = 2
Rank 7- Essendon 1993, 2000. = 2
Rank 8- North Melbourne 1996, 1999. = 2
Rank 9- Adelaide 1997, 1998. = 2
Rank 10- Western Bulldogs 2016. = 1
Rank 11- Port Adelaide 2004. = 1
Rank 12- Carlton 1995. = 1

Grand Finalist of the AFL era (Plus conversion)

Rank 1- Geelong 7 for 3 Flags.
Rank 2- Hawthorn 6 for 5 Flags.
Rank 3- Sydney 6 for 2 Flags.
Rank 4- West Coast 6 for 3 Flags.
Rank 5- Collingwood 5 for 2 Flags.
Rank 6- Brisbane 4 for 3 Flags.
Rank 7- Essendon 4 for 2 Flags.
Rank 8- North Melbourne 3 for 2 Flags.
Rank 9- Carlton 3 for 1 Flag.
Rank 10- St Kilda 3 for 0 Flags.
Rank 11- Adelaide 2 for 2 Flags.
Rank 12- Port Adelaide 2 for 1 Flag.
Rank 13- Western Bulldogs 1 for 1 Flag.
Rank 14- Fremantle 1 for 0 Flags.
Rank 15- Melbourne 1 for 0 Flags.

Well would not have posted that until last year.

 

[King Harold]

Today's HS , Elliot can run laps again and some old retired pie doing a pre - season of sorts ?

 

[Dogs 13]

You appeared on World of Sport, and spoke with Lou. And you're wearing a VFL guernsey. You truly have lived.

I spoke to Lou at a sportman's night, he said to me "have you got an effing smoke" and I said I don't smoke Mr Richards

 

[LittleG]

Today's HS , Elliot can run laps again and some old retired pie doing a pre - season of sorts ?

You missed the story of the ex-Pie Nathan 'injury-prone' Freeman and him actually training.

 

[ScragCity]

Scragger! Thats me holding him on WoS.

What year was that?

 

[Dry Rot]

What year was that?

1962.

 

[ScragCity]

1962.

Pretty sure Norm is in his 20s so I doubt that.

 

[Spiritof82]

What year was that?

At a guess around 1976 (or the text on the video clip is wrong)

 

[Norm De Guerre]

Pretty sure Norm is in his 20s so I doubt that.

Why thank you young man. But in this case you are quite wrong.

 

[Mattdougie]

Why thank you young man. But in this case you are quite wrong.

Closer to 50 I would think from this video I'm tipping is around 1980

 

[Freshwater]

Premiers of the AFL era (1990 to 2016)

Rank 1- Hawthorn 1991, 2008, 2013, 2014, 2015. = 5
Rank 2- Brisbane 2001, 2002, 2003. = 3
Rank 3- Geelong 2007, 2009, 2011. = 3
Rank 4- West Coast 1992, 1994, 2006. = 3
Rank 5- Sydney 2005, 2012. = 2
Rank 6- Collingwood 1990, 2010. = 2
Rank 7- Essendon 1993, 2000. = 2
Rank 8- North Melbourne 1996, 1999. = 2
Rank 9- Adelaide 1997, 1998. = 2
Rank 10- Western Bulldogs 2016. = 1
Rank 11- Port Adelaide 2004. = 1
Rank 12- Carlton 1995. = 1

Grand Finalist of the AFL era (Plus conversion)

Rank 1- Geelong 7 for 3 Flags.
Rank 2- Hawthorn 6 for 5 Flags.
Rank 3- Sydney 6 for 2 Flags.
Rank 4- West Coast 6 for 3 Flags.
Rank 5- Collingwood 5 for 2 Flags.
Rank 6- Brisbane 4 for 3 Flags.
Rank 7- Essendon 4 for 2 Flags.
Rank 8- North Melbourne 3 for 2 Flags.
Rank 9- Carlton 3 for 1 Flag.
Rank 10- St Kilda 3 for 0 Flags.
Rank 11- Adelaide 2 for 2 Flags.
Rank 12- Port Adelaide 2 for 1 Flag.
Rank 13- Western Bulldogs 1 for 1 Flag.
Rank 14- Fremantle 1 for 0 Flags.
Rank 15- Melbourne 1 for 0 Flags.

Well would not have posted that until last year.

Premierships and Grand Finals from the 21st Century
- Hawthorn. 4 flags, 5 GFs
- Brisbane 3 flags, 4 GFs
- Geelong 3 flags, 4 GFs
- Sydney 2 flags, 5 GFs
- Collingwood 1 flag, 5GFs (1draw)
- WCE. 1 flag, 3GFs
- Port. 1 flag, 2GFs
- Bulldogs. 1 flag, 1 GF
- St Kilda. 3GFs (1draw)
- Essendon. 1GF
- Fremantle. 1GF
None for the rest

 

[Yojimbo]

Premierships and Grand Finals from the 21st Century
- Hawthorn. 4 flags, 5 GFs
- Brisbane 3 flags, 4 GFs
- Geelong 3 flags, 4 GFs
- Sydney 2 flags, 5 GFs
- Collingwood 1 flag, 5GFs (1draw)
- WCE. 1 flag, 3GFs
- Port. 1 flag, 2GFs
- Bulldogs. 1 flag, 1 GF
- St Kilda. 3GFs (1draw)
- Essendon. 1GF
- Fremantle. 1GF
None for the rest

When you look at it you wonder is it just history repeating
to an extent.
1954 to 1960 Melb 7 consecutive GF's for 5 flags.
1983 to 1989 Haw 7 consecutive GF's for 4 flags.

 

[Yojimbo]

Disposal Differential In The AFL Era (1990 to 2016)
For the Premiership team.

2016- Western Bulldogs DD (+ 1,110 ) rank 1st.
2015- Hawthorn DD (+ 962 ) rank 1st.
2014- Hawthorn DD (+ 1,043 ) rank 1st.
2013- Hawthorn DD (+ 675 ) rank 2nd.
2012- Sydney DD (+ 362 ) rank 6th.
2011- Geelong DD (+ 738 ) rank 4th.
2010- Collingwood DD (+ 158 ) rank 6th.
2009- Geelong DD (+ 1,648 ) rank 1st.
2008- Hawthorn DD (+ 277 ) rank 6th.
2007- Geelong DD (+ 1,240 ) rank 1st.
2006- West Coast DD (+ 914 ) rank 1st.
2005- Sydney DD (+ 225 ) rank 9th.
2004- Port Adelaide DD (+ 466 ) rank 1st.
2003- Brisbane DD (+ 36 ) rank 9th.
2002- Brisbane DD (+ 229 ) rank 4th.
2001- Brisbane DD (+ 448 ) rank 2nd.
2000- Essendon DD (+ 988 ) rank 2nd.
1999- North Melbourne DD (- 565 ) rank 14th.
1998- Adelaide DD (- 224 ) rank 12th.
1997- Adelaide DD (- 324 ) rank 13th.
1996- North Melbourne DD (- 115 ) rank 11th.
1995- Carlton DD (+ 905 ) rank 2nd.
1994- West Coast DD (+ 301 ) rank 3rd.
1993- Essendon DD (+ 808 ) rank 1st.
1992- West Coast DD (+ 333 ) rank 3rd.
1991- Hawthorn DD (+ 556 ) rank 3rd.
1990- Collingwood DD (+ 1,304 ) rank 1st.

Explaining The anomalies (1996 to 1999)

1996- Premier North Melbourne DD (- 115 ) rank 11th.
Top two teams Essendon DD (+ 828), and Geelong DD (+ 577)
(Essendon lost Prelim by 1 point),(Geelong lost Elim final).
North Melbourne 2nd on ladder, Pagan's Paddock.

1997- Premier Adelaide DD (- 324 ) rank 13th.
Top two teams St Kilda DD (+828), and Geelong DD (+ 649 )
(St Kilda lost the GF),(Geelong lost the Semi).
Adelaide 4th on the ladder, Darren Jarman.

1998- Premier Adelaide DD (- 224 ) rank 12th.
Top two teams Bulldogs DD (+ 717), and Carlton DD (+ 656)
(Bulldogs lost the Prelim),(Carlton missed the finals).
Adelaide 5th on the ladder, Shane Ellen.

1999- Premier North Melbourne DD (- 565 ) rank 14th.
Top two teams Carlton DD (+ 869) and Bulldogs DD (+ 467)
(Carlton lost the GF),(Bulldogs lost the Semi).
North Melbourne 2nd on the ladder, Pagan's Paddock.

 

[Cadillac]

Premierships and Grand Finals from the 21st Century
- Hawthorn. 4 flags, 5 GFs
- Brisbane 3 flags, 4 GFs
- Geelong 3 flags, 4 GFs
- Sydney 2 flags, 5 GFs
- Collingwood 1 flag, 5GFs (1draw)
- WCE. 1 flag, 3GFs
- Port. 1 flag, 2GFs
- Bulldogs. 1 flag, 1 GF
- St Kilda. 3GFs (1draw)
- Essendon. 1GF
- Fremantle. 1GF
None for the rest

Essendon have a flag.

 

[darthbards]

Essendon have a flag.

lol,love the new avatar. Considering your username it would have to be one of the coolest on all of BF.

 

[Freshwater]

Essendon have a flag.

Essendon won the last flag of the 20th century.

 

[ScragCity]

I honestly can't see us losing a game this year

 

[ManOfClay]

Been cruising around Manila in a mark knight cartoon premiers top or a dogs guernseys all week. Any Aussies keep an eye around the Makati area

 

[LittleG]

I honestly can't see us losing a game this year

Are you Mick Malthouse?
That would explain the love/hate bulldog relationship.

 

[Yojimbo]

Goal Differential in the AFL Era (1990 to 2016).

So in the 27 years of the AFL era the winner or number one
ranked team for Goal Differential either :
Option A- (Won the Grand Final x 16 times) or 59.26 %
Option B- (Lost the Grand Final x 7 times) or 25.93 %
Option C- (Lost the Prelim Final x 4 times) or 14.81 %

Bulldogs Finals appearances versus Goal Differential.
2016- GD 6th, 2015- GD 6th, 2010- GD 3rd, 2009- GD 3rd,
2008- GD 3rd, 2006- GD 6th, 2000- GD 5th, 1999- GD 4th,
1998- GD 3rd, 1997- GD 8th, 1995- GD 13th, 1994- GD 7th,
1992- GD 2nd.

 

[X_box_X]

Comparing the Preliminary Finals and Grand Finals of the 2004 Power to the 2016 Bulldogs.

Comparing the two PFs, the final winning margins are identical. Both Port and the WB came from one point down at 3QT to win. The HT margins are also very similar. All in all, not much were separating the two sides at any stage in both of these games.

In the GFs, the team going on to win the flag both lead at QT and 3QT while trailing narrowly at HT.

In addition to that, Port Adelaide knew exactly what it was like to fail and choke. They had finished top four in the previous three seasons, having been knocked out in the PF in the previous two seasons. We can definitely relate to that.

Also, when I think about memorable moments from coaches immediately after the GF, I think of Mark Williams in 2004 (pretending to tie a noose around his neck with his tie, to symbolise a choking motion, as well as being on the dias and shouting, "Alan Scott, you were wrong"). The second memorable moment - Bevo obviously giving his Jock McHale Medal to Bob was symbolic.

Also in their premiership season, Port Adelaide's captain Matthew Primus did his knee in round three against Hawthorn, forcing him to miss the rest of the season. Similarly, Bulldogs captain Bob Murphy also did his knee, also in round three, and also against Hawthorn. He too missed the rest of the season.

 

[Yojimbo]

Comparing the Preliminary Finals and Grand Finals of the 2004 Power to the 2016 Bulldogs.

Comparing the two PFs, the final winning margins are identical. Both Port and the WB came from one point down at 3QT to win. The HT margins are also very similar. All in all, not much were separating the two sides at any stage in both of these games.

In the GFs, the team going on to win the flag both lead at QT and 3QT while trailing narrowly at HT.

In addition to that, Port Adelaide knew exactly what it was like to fail and choke. They had finished top four in the previous three seasons, having been knocked out in the PF in the previous two seasons. We can definitely relate to that.

Also, when I think about memorable moments from coaches immediately after the GF, I think of Mark Williams in 2004 (pretending to tie a noose around his neck with his tie, to symbolise a choking motion, as well as being on the dias and shouting, "Alan Scott, you were wrong"). The second memorable moment - Bevo obviously giving his Jock McHale Medal to Bob was symbolic.

Also in their premiership season, Port Adelaide's captain Matthew Primus did his knee in round three against Hawthorn, forcing him to miss the rest of the season. Similarly, Bulldogs captain Bob Murphy also did his knee, also in round three, and also against Hawthorn. He too missed the rest of the season.

Hard not to notice the change in betting information from 2004
to 2016.

 

[X_box_X]

Hard not to notice the change in betting information from 2004
to 2016.

I know you're referring to my post in the thread "If we make another Grand Final, what would you do differently", but a lesson for you is to do your research before attempting to insult me. Despite the two losses accumulating $900 I had in the SF and PF weeks, I still managed to net profits in those weeks and my spread sheets since April of 2012 are $3,000 away from reaching the $100k mark in profit.

Also, it's not a good idea to roll your eyes. If the wind changes direction as you're rolling your eyes, you'll end up looking like this.

 

[Yojimbo]

I know you're referring to my post in the thread "If we make another Grand Final, what would you do differently", but a lesson for you is to do your research before attempting to insult me. Despite the two losses accumulating $900 I had in the SF and PF weeks, I still managed to net profits in those weeks and my spread sheets since April of 2012 are $3,000 away from reaching the $100k mark in profit.

Also, it's not a good idea to roll your eyes. If the wind changes direction as you're rolling your eyes, you'll end up looking like this.

You think too much, there is no betting information under
the 2004 stats you presented where as the 2016 stats
have betting information included. I was only joking in
your other thread what you do with your money is
your business.