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No this isn't a Castrol Cold Playces Index. I think there's been a lack of general discussion as to which teams are over and under performing across Europe. Sure it's only November, but the season is starting to take shape. Naturally a degree of subjectivity is involved but I think I'm unbiased in listing these.
Naturally I've given greater weighting to UCL over Europa but I haven't really quantified to what degree. Same with the strength of domestic leagues.
Teams who are doing quite respectably in Europe but appalling domestically are forgotten altogether (ie. Roma and Schalke).
Contenders
Club ------------- Domestic (W-D-L) --- European record
Chelsea -----------8-1-1---------------- 4-0-0
Arsenal ------------6-2-2---------------- 3-0-1
Man Utd -----------5-5-0---------------- 3-1-0
Man City ----------5-2-3-----------------2-1-0 (Europa)
Tottenham --------4-3-3---------------- 2-1-1
R.Madrid ----------7-2-0---------------- 3-1-0
Barca -------------7-1-1---------------- 2-2-0
Villarreal ----------6-2-1---------------- 2-0-1 (Europa)
Valencia ----------5-2-2---------------- 2-1-1
Lazio -------------7-1-1---------------- n/a
Inter -------------5-3-1---------------- 2-1-1
Milan -------------5-2-2---------------- 1-2-1
Juve --------------4-3-2---------------- 0-3-0 (Europa)
Dortmund ---------8-1-1---------------- 1-1-1 (Europa)
Mainz -------------8-0-2---------------- n/a
B.Leverkusen ------5-3-2---------------- 1-2-0 (Europa)
B.Munich-----------4-3-3---------------- 4-0-0
Rangers -----------9-1-0---------------- 1-2-1
Celtic -------------9-0-1---------------- n/a
Marseille ----------5-3-2----------------- 2-0-2
PSG --------------4-3-3----------------- 2-1-0 (Europa)
Shaktar ----------13-1-1---------------- 3-0-1
Dy Kiev ----------11-2-2---------------- 1-1-1 (Europa)
Zenit ------------18-6-1---------------- 3-0-0 (Europa)
Rubin Kazan ------15-9-2---------------- 0-3-1
CSKA Moscow ----15-6-4---------------- 3-0-0 (Europa)
Spartak Moscow --13-7-6---------------- n/a
FC Copenhagen ---12-2-0---------------- 2-1-1
FC Porto ----------8-1-0----------------- 3-0-0 (Europa)
Sp Lisbon ---------4-3-2----------------- 3-0-0 (Europa)
My Top 20
1. Chelsea
2. R. Madrid
3. United
4. Arsenal
5. Barcelona
6. Shaktar
7. Inter
8. Bayern
9. FC Copenhagen
10. Rangers
11. Milan
12. Spurs
13. Valencia
14. Marseille
15. FC Porto
16. Man City
17. Zenit
18. Rubin Kazan
19. Villarreal
20. Dortmund
Naturally I've given greater weighting to UCL over Europa but I haven't really quantified to what degree. Same with the strength of domestic leagues.
Teams who are doing quite respectably in Europe but appalling domestically are forgotten altogether (ie. Roma and Schalke).
Contenders
Club ------------- Domestic (W-D-L) --- European record
Chelsea -----------8-1-1---------------- 4-0-0
Arsenal ------------6-2-2---------------- 3-0-1
Man Utd -----------5-5-0---------------- 3-1-0
Man City ----------5-2-3-----------------2-1-0 (Europa)
Tottenham --------4-3-3---------------- 2-1-1
R.Madrid ----------7-2-0---------------- 3-1-0
Barca -------------7-1-1---------------- 2-2-0
Villarreal ----------6-2-1---------------- 2-0-1 (Europa)
Valencia ----------5-2-2---------------- 2-1-1
Lazio -------------7-1-1---------------- n/a
Inter -------------5-3-1---------------- 2-1-1
Milan -------------5-2-2---------------- 1-2-1
Juve --------------4-3-2---------------- 0-3-0 (Europa)
Dortmund ---------8-1-1---------------- 1-1-1 (Europa)
Mainz -------------8-0-2---------------- n/a
B.Leverkusen ------5-3-2---------------- 1-2-0 (Europa)
B.Munich-----------4-3-3---------------- 4-0-0
Rangers -----------9-1-0---------------- 1-2-1
Celtic -------------9-0-1---------------- n/a
Marseille ----------5-3-2----------------- 2-0-2
PSG --------------4-3-3----------------- 2-1-0 (Europa)
Shaktar ----------13-1-1---------------- 3-0-1
Dy Kiev ----------11-2-2---------------- 1-1-1 (Europa)
Zenit ------------18-6-1---------------- 3-0-0 (Europa)
Rubin Kazan ------15-9-2---------------- 0-3-1
CSKA Moscow ----15-6-4---------------- 3-0-0 (Europa)
Spartak Moscow --13-7-6---------------- n/a
FC Copenhagen ---12-2-0---------------- 2-1-1
FC Porto ----------8-1-0----------------- 3-0-0 (Europa)
Sp Lisbon ---------4-3-2----------------- 3-0-0 (Europa)
My Top 20
1. Chelsea
2. R. Madrid
3. United
4. Arsenal
5. Barcelona
6. Shaktar
7. Inter
8. Bayern
9. FC Copenhagen
10. Rangers
11. Milan
12. Spurs
13. Valencia
14. Marseille
15. FC Porto
16. Man City
17. Zenit
18. Rubin Kazan
19. Villarreal
20. Dortmund
