NOW to sometime later in the year (maybe) - Talk about anything

[Thepigshow]

Begley Got the all clear from the surgeon a started training 2 weeks ago.

Time will tell what happens though.

 

[CliffMcTainshaw]

Also have the proposed redevelopment of the basketball stadium to deal with.

Could be some tough years for EB to deal with if that kicks off sooner rather than later, hot on the heels of the resurfacing and new club rooms

Basketball is MUCH later. The are still $30M short on funding and while it will go ahead the date is yet to be determined. The footy clubrooms and roads, etc. will be starting once the finals have finished.

 

[adock]

Fairpark a chance to stay up if upwey get knocked back by efl clubs or afl vic?
Or is that already been cleared thru?

Wouldn’t surprise me if 1/2 of Bayswater ends up at fairpark

I think the worry is from people Ive spoken to at Coldy regarding relegation is that they hadn't been contacted by the league about the possibility of staying up before the game on Saturday, but its clear that clubs in higher divisions such as Lilydale and Norwood have been contacted about them staying up.

So i can only presume whatever they are planning involved the Div 3 bottom (Fairpark) being relegated. But as Ive said before its just disgraceful that the EFNL has these plans and they just don't bother to inform their stakeholders. Why should any club get relegated so a new club can take their spot?

 

[outside_off]

I think the worry is from people Ive spoken to at Coldy regarding relegation is that they hadn't been contacted by the league about the possibility of staying up before the game on Saturday, but its clear that clubs in higher divisions such as Lilydale and Norwood have been contacted about them staying up.

So i can only presume whatever they are planning involved the Div 3 bottom (Fairpark) being relegated. But as Ive said before its just disgraceful that the EFNL has these plans and they just don't bother to inform their stakeholders. Why should any club get relegated so a new club can take their spot?

With Doncaster Sharks return imminent nobody wants to be relegated to Div 4 because it may soon be very hard to escape. Big coin on offer from Shark people.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

I think the worry is from people Ive spoken to at Coldy regarding relegation is that they hadn't been contacted by the league about the possibility of staying up before the game on Saturday, but its clear that clubs in higher divisions such as Lilydale and Norwood have been contacted about them staying up.

So i can only presume whatever they are planning involved the Div 3 bottom (Fairpark) being relegated. But as Ive said before its just disgraceful that the EFNL has these plans and they just don't bother to inform their stakeholders. Why should any club get relegated so a new club can take their spot?

Lilydale have at least won two games and have a percentage of 61, which isn’t great but not catastrophic. Their Reserves and Under 19s have also won six games each, so there’s a bit of depth at the club.

You could understand them being kept up.

Norwood?? On what planet could the EFNL do that? 0 wins. Percentage of 39.

Reserves 1.5 wins and percentage of 19.

Under 19s, 4 wins and percentage of 40.

The club is clearly very weak and nowhere near D1 standard.

D1 is weak enough with three terrible sides. The three clubs also have appalling reserves teams and Under 19s teams, while Mooroolbark doesn’t have U19s at all.

Meanwhile you have a strong top 3 in Division 2 and two promotions would be fine.

Are they trying to turn D1 into a complete joke?

 

[Bunk Moreland]

East Burwood can’t sacked dove that would then be 5 coaches in 5 seasons!

Mooroolbark job is interesting great top end talent but poor depth.

Montrose job would be a decent get! Pushing finals in Div 1

Templestowe and east Ringwood are the most appealing take over clubs that are up the top and ready to keep winning in their divisions templestowe possible to go up into Div 1 and after seeing how boronia went you wouldn’t be scared to take that on!

Fairpark is interesting Allison just the one season maybe a Galvin will coach?

Silvan and Heathmont not bad places to land either middle of the table in respective comps need a tune up but could see them not firing

Lilydale I’m sure sando will get the job for next season after being pulled out of upwey

Not sure about oakleigh 5/6 wins and loose your best player or one of your best Pearsons as his coach and always a chance he’ll take a couple to new club that one could be a disaster to take on.

Good take on winterton as well has done it all at Mitcham potentially a good time to start fresh for them and no doubt his phone would be ringing hot with offers after correct me if I’m wrong here G-MAC 4/5 flags in 10 seasons?!

Winterton has signed to go again at Mitcham

 

[guest100]

Maybe they are waiting to see if Upwey gets in?

When will that be advised?

Even if so, the silence is deafening

 

[Brown Bottle]

Lilydale have at least won two games and have a percentage of 61, which isn’t great but not catastrophic. Their Reserves and Under 19s have also won six games each, so there’s a bit of depth at the club.

You could understand them being kept up.

Norwood?? On what planet could the EFNL do that? 0 wins. Percentage of 39.

Reserves 1.5 wins and percentage of 19.

Under 19s, 4 wins and percentage of 40.

The club is clearly very weak and nowhere near D1 standard.

D1 is weak enough with three terrible sides. The three clubs also have appalling reserves teams and Under 19s teams, while Mooroolbark doesn’t have U19s at all.

Meanwhile you have a strong top 3 in Division 2 and two promotions would be fine.

Are they trying to turn D1 into a complete joke?

The League has to operate within its own bylaws. It can't choose to promote / relegate. Doncaster withdrawing on the eve of the season locked in Div1's "relegation" for 2025.

Uncompetitive clubs can ask to be dropped to a lower division. I guess Norwood prefers to stay in Div1 and wear the losses.

 

[Thepigshow]

Lilydale have at least won two games and have a percentage of 61, which isn’t great but not catastrophic. Their Reserves and Under 19s have also won six games each, so there’s a bit of depth at the club.

You could understand them being kept up.

Norwood?? On what planet could the EFNL do that? 0 wins. Percentage of 39.

Reserves 1.5 wins and percentage of 19.

Under 19s, 4 wins and percentage of 40.

The club is clearly very weak and nowhere near D1 standard.

D1 is weak enough with three terrible sides. The three clubs also have appalling reserves teams and Under 19s teams, while Mooroolbark doesn’t have U19s at all.

Meanwhile you have a strong top 3 in Division 2 and two promotions would be fine.

Are they trying to turn D1 into a complete joke?

Wantirna south where terrible in div 1 last year.

A years a long time in football

 

[Bunk Moreland]

The League has to operate within its own bylaws. It can't choose to promote / relegate. Doncaster withdrawing on the eve of the season locked in Div1's "relegation" for 2025.

Uncompetitive clubs can ask to be dropped to a lower division. I guess Norwood prefers to stay in Div1 and wear the losses.

The league can absolutely choose to promote or relegate. The by-laws give them that power - there’s one of the catch-all provisions that allows anything to be done “in the opinion of the board”.

It also makes specific reference that the club that finishes bottom shall be relegated. Doncaster didn’t finish bottom. They never started the season.

 

[nick2397]

It will work out fairly well if the following were to happen, assuming that Upwey-Tecoma transfer across and possibly Officer and Pakenham.

Premier Division (10 teams) - Rowville, East Ringwood, Blackburn, Doncaster East, Vermont, Balwyn, Noble Park, Berwick, South Croydon, South Belgrave (tip for Div 1 flag).

Division 1 (10 teams) - Mitcham, Park Orchards, Beaconsfield, Boronia, Montrose, North Ringwood, Mooroolbark, Bayswater, Templestowe (tip for Div 2 flag), Wantirna South (tip for Div 2 runner up).

Division 2 (10 teams) - Norwood, Surrey Park, Mulgrave, Heathmont, Croydon, Waverley Blues, Ringwood, East Burwood, Upwey - Tecoma, Donvale (tip for Div 3 flag).

Division 3 (12 teams) - Lilydale, Scoresby, Knox, The Basin, Upper FTG, Silvan, Ferntree Gully, Oakleigh District, Coldstream, Officer, Pakenham, Chirnside Park (tip for Div 4 flag).

Division 4 (9 teams) - Fairpark, Whitehorse Pioneers, Warrandyte, Bulleen - Templestowe, Croydon North - MLOC, Kilsyth, Forest Hill, Nunawading (hopefully), Doncaster (hopefully).

 

[thefunnelweb]

Winterton has signed to go again at Mitcham

Don’t know him from a bar of soap but played our clubs played against them a few times over the years, something really good about the club and his relationship going into year 11 you just simply don’t see this level of stability at the local level anymore I rate it highly!!! Some clubs could learn a thing or two from seeing how Mitcham has done it GMAC any insight into this would be good

 

[muesli]

It also makes specific reference that the club that finishes bottom shall be relegated. Doncaster didn’t finish bottom. They never started the season.

In 2014, Donvale went into recess before the season started in Division 2, the league classified them as the team to be relegated and even though East Burwood were last, they survived relegation.
The same will probably happen with Norwood but in my opinion, they should ask to go down.

 

[Shootfromthehip]

Lilydale have at least won two games and have a percentage of 61, which isn’t great but not catastrophic. Their Reserves and Under 19s have also won six games each, so there’s a bit of depth at the club.

You could understand them being kept up.

Norwood?? On what planet could the EFNL do that? 0 wins. Percentage of 39.

Reserves 1.5 wins and percentage of 19.

Under 19s, 4 wins and percentage of 40.

The club is clearly very weak and nowhere near D1 standard.

D1 is weak enough with three terrible sides. The three clubs also have appalling reserves teams and Under 19s teams, while Mooroolbark doesn’t have U19s at all.

Meanwhile you have a strong top 3 in Division 2 and two promotions would be fine.

Are they trying to turn D1 into a complete joke?

How idealistic are you ? Every competition in every sport has top and bottom sides . Wantirna South finished rock bottom in 2024 with 1 win , now a year later you want them promoted again even if they end up 3rd. Do you expect everyone to finish on 9 wins with percentages of 100 ? Bayswater beat Beaconsfield this year . Mooroolbark ran Montrose all the way to the line , losing by 10 points . Even on Saturday I see South Belgrave beat a terrible side by 41 points . Hardly uncompetitive. Things can change quickly in football so we don’t need your knee jerk approach.

 

[BIGticket]

It will work out fairly well if the following were to happen, assuming that Upwey-Tecoma transfer across and possibly Officer and Pakenham.

Premier Division (10 teams) - Rowville, East Ringwood, Blackburn, Doncaster East, Vermont, Balwyn, Noble Park, Berwick, South Croydon, South Belgrave (tip for Div 1 flag).

Division 1 (10 teams) - Mitcham, Park Orchards, Beaconsfield, Boronia, Montrose, North Ringwood, Mooroolbark, Bayswater, Templestowe (tip for Div 2 flag), Wantirna South (tip for Div 2 runner up).

Division 2 (10 teams) - Norwood, Surrey Park, Mulgrave, Heathmont, Croydon, Waverley Blues, Ringwood, East Burwood, Upwey - Tecoma, Donvale (tip for Div 3 flag).

Division 3 (12 teams) - Lilydale, Scoresby, Knox, The Basin, Upper FTG, Silvan, Ferntree Gully, Oakleigh District, Coldstream, Officer, Pakenham, Chirnside Park (tip for Div 4 flag).

Division 4 (9 teams) - Fairpark, Whitehorse Pioneers, Warrandyte, Bulleen - Templestowe, Croydon North - MLOC, Kilsyth, Forest Hill, Nunawading (hopefully), Doncaster (hopefully).

Upwey/Tecoma is one thing but Pakenham & Officer???

 

[The Kaiser Chief]

How idealistic are you ? Every competition in every sport has top and bottom sides . Wantirna South finished rock bottom in 2024 with 1 win , now a year later you want them promoted again even if they end up 3rd. Do you expect everyone to finish on 9 wins with percentages of 100 ? Bayswater beat Beaconsfield this year . Mooroolbark ran Montrose all the way to the line , losing by 10 points . Even on Saturday I see South Belgrave beat a terrible side by 41 points . Hardly uncompetitive. Things can change quickly in football so we don’t need your knee jerk approach.

Wantirna South have far more going for them at the moment than Norwood.
Anyone who thinks Norwood should stay in division 1 is not looking at the big picture.

 

[Voice of the G]

Don’t know him from a bar of soap but played our clubs played against them a few times over the years, something really good about the club and his relationship going into year 11 you just simply don’t see this level of stability at the local level anymore I rate it highly!!! Some clubs could learn a thing or two from seeing how Mitcham has done it GMAC any insight into this would be good

I have never been on the committee at Mitcham but been a volunteer for 25 years.As many know around 2005 we lost 24 games in a row and went from the top division to D3.The rebuild of our club started with our juniors which I think is the most important of any sporting club.We now have a strong junior club and a lot of our junior parents that were involved in those days are now on our senior committee and most senior committee members have been involved for a similar period of time.

Facility wise both cricket club and football clubs have successfully worked on upgrading our facilities,perhaps some of you all know by now why we call Walker Park the MCG of the East(Some can not realise on here that we play on the Mitcham Cricket Ground lol)

Sponsors wise have a look at all our signs around the ground fences,luncheons booked out,top AFL players every luncheon,despite our disappointing year on field the tiger army are still there off field including after match drinks in rooms after games.

Disappointing year on field and a huge step up to premier,lost to many players from our premiership team to injuries,not playing etc.We have a wonderful group of18 or 19 year olds but they are our future.

And finally we have president Matt Mc Cubbin,the longest servicing president in the EFNL and been there since the rebuild.We are determined to come back,keep an eye on our Facebook page.

Hope this answers your question.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

How idealistic are you ? Every competition in every sport has top and bottom sides . Wantirna South finished rock bottom in 2024 with 1 win , now a year later you want them promoted again even if they end up 3rd. Do you expect everyone to finish on 9 wins with percentages of 100 ? Bayswater beat Beaconsfield this year . Mooroolbark ran Montrose all the way to the line , losing by 10 points . Even on Saturday I see South Belgrave beat a terrible side by 41 points . Hardly uncompetitive. Things can change quickly in football so we don’t need your knee jerk approach.

Who cares about one-off games?

The division is a joke this year, there might as well be six clubs in it, such is the gap.

Of course they should take the opportunity to introduce as much new blood as possible.

You’re seriously advocating a winless club should not be relegated?

What is the whole point of promotion and relegation?

You’ve totally missed the point with Wantirna South, they were relegated which gives you the opportunity to rebuild, when they have done this year. Not rocket science, the system works the way it does for a reason.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

I have never been on the committee at Mitcham but been a volunteer for 25 years.As many know around 2005 we lost 24 games in a row and went from the top division to D3.The rebuild of our club started with our juniors which I think is the most important of any sporting club.We now have a strong junior club and a lot of our junior parents that were involved in those days are now on our senior committee and most senior committee members have been involved for a similar period of time.

Facility wise both cricket club and football clubs have successfully worked on upgrading our facilities,perhaps some of you all know by now why we call Walker Park the MCG of the East(Some can not realise on here that we play on the Mitcham Cricket Ground lol)

Sponsors wise have a look at all our signs around the ground fences,luncheons booked out,top AFL players every luncheon,despite our disappointing year on field the tiger army are still there off field including after match drinks in rooms after games.

Disappointing year on field and a huge step up to premier,lost to many players from our premiership team to injuries,not playing etc.We have a wonderful group of18 or 19 year olds but they are our future.

And finally we have president Matt Mc Cubbin,the longest servicing president in the EFNL and been there since the rebuild.We are determined to come back,keep an eye on our Facebook page.

Hope this answers your question.

President and Coach have done a mighty job, at some point it comes time for change however, the same people in forever is not healthy.

Relegation is not a good time to walk away, perhaps if they stabilise in D1 next year it might be time for a change.

Of course, you need somebody who wants to be president for that to happen!

 

[The Kaiser Chief]

President and Coach have done a mighty job, at some point it comes time for change however, the same people in forever is not healthy.

Relegation is not a good time to walk away, perhaps if they stabilise in D1 next year it might be time for a change.

Of course, you need somebody who wants to be president for that to happen!

if they are the right people for the job I don't see the problem?

 

[Thepigshow]

It will work out fairly well if the following were to happen, assuming that Upwey-Tecoma transfer across and possibly Officer and Pakenham.

Premier Division (10 teams) - Rowville, East Ringwood, Blackburn, Doncaster East, Vermont, Balwyn, Noble Park, Berwick, South Croydon, South Belgrave (tip for Div 1 flag).

Division 1 (10 teams) - Mitcham, Park Orchards, Beaconsfield, Boronia, Montrose, North Ringwood, Mooroolbark, Bayswater, Templestowe (tip for Div 2 flag), Wantirna South (tip for Div 2 runner up).

Division 2 (10 teams) - Norwood, Surrey Park, Mulgrave, Heathmont, Croydon, Waverley Blues, Ringwood, East Burwood, Upwey - Tecoma, Donvale (tip for Div 3 flag).

Division 3 (12 teams) - Lilydale, Scoresby, Knox, The Basin, Upper FTG, Silvan, Ferntree Gully, Oakleigh District, Coldstream, Officer, Pakenham, Chirnside Park (tip for Div 4 flag).

Division 4 (9 teams) - Fairpark, Whitehorse Pioneers, Warrandyte, Bulleen - Templestowe, Croydon North - MLOC, Kilsyth, Forest Hill, Nunawading (hopefully), Doncaster (hopefully).

Surely upwey are keen to go to div 3 to play uftg, Ftg, silvan, even the basin.

Upwey to Div 2 makes no sense

Agree Norwood should go down

 

[MortlockWatcher]

Upwey/Tecoma is one thing but Pakenham & Officer???

They both want to go into West Gippsland but the WGFNC clubs don't want them in their comp.

It is Eastern or Southern for them at the moment because neither are likely to entertain the Gippsland league as their only country option.

 

[Shootfromthehip]

Wantirna South have far more going for them at the moment than Norwood.
Anyone who thinks Norwood should stay in division 1 is not looking at the big picture.

No Norwood should go down . It’s this blokes constant criticism and lack of respect for Bayswater and Mooroolbark that gets my attention. He wants to ignore one off games but they actually happened. Mooroolbark have a percentage of 74 so that says they

Who cares about one-off games?

The division is a joke this year, there might as well be six clubs in it, such is the gap.

Of course they should take the opportunity to introduce as much new blood as possible.

You’re seriously advocating a winless club should not be relegated?

What is the whole point of promotion and relegation?

You’ve totally missed the point with Wantirna South, they were relegated which gives you the opportunity to rebuild, when they have done this year. Not rocket science, the system works the way it does for a reason.

I agree Norwood should go down but why continue to criticise Bayswater and Mooroolbark ? Mooroolbark have a percentage of 74 not 30 or 20 . You can ignore one off games if you choose but they actually happened.

 

[10571z]

Does Doncaster get up? Where does 60 players appear from?

 

[hansie]

Does Doncaster get up? Where does 60 players appear from?

Guess it depends on how many return - e.g Annakis the boys who went to Healesville couple back from
Bulleen temp - that’s a start.
Apparently the co-coaches are both ex Donny boys so that will help as would any they can get across from their current clubs…
And $ of course (I understand there’s still some around even if not as much as before)
Good luck to them!