NSW Bushfires

[True North]

We need to legalise automatic weapons and let both sides duke it out. Leaving 100 Million on the planet so it can be nice again and the dinosours come back.

 

[Pessimistic]

Millions of years of climate. We take records for around 150 of those years and we come to the conclusion that are the ones causing it. Ok.

This isnt inner city latte sippers saying this. Its actual firefighters on the ground.

 

[Bazzar]

Australian bushfire seasons.

 

[chelseacarlton]

It’s ok, Israel Folau to the repentance rescue again, the bushfires were caused by gay marriage and women’s bodily autonomy rights, god started the fires in order to protect us from people getting married and self autonomy.
Makes complete sense right?
He even shed a tear whilst saving us, bless his little tattooed righteousness!
Funny thing is though, what did our native fauna do to when they voted on SSM?

 

[Bicko]

This isnt inner city latte sippers saying this. Its actual firefighters on the ground.

Makes no difference. Millions vs 150, think about it.

 

[Stronzo]

Australian bushfire seasons.

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That’s great buddy.

Now tell us why rain Forrest areas are burning for the first time?

Is it because people aren’t collecting firewood??

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Makes no difference. Millions vs 150, think about it.

Humans have only been recording temperature for 150 years or so.

Before that, you are relying on scientists to plot temperature data from tree rings and ice cores. Those same scientists, all seem to agree on whats happening with mans influence on the environment, and what we should be trying to do about it.

The scientists that don't agree with them, tend to be employed by mining companies, religious, or both.

 

[Bicko]

Humans have only been recording temperature for 150 years or so.

Before that, you are relying on scientists to plot temperature data from tree rings and ice cores. Those same scientists, all seem to agree on whats happening with mans influence on the environment, and what we should be trying to do about it.

The scientists that don't agree with them, tend to be employed by mining companies, religious, or both.

You do understand the ultimate end game then is population reduction. There is no other way around the apparent problem unless humans are culled. This is what does my head in when people use the term ‘carbon footprint’, that’s us. The best way to reduce ones carbon footprint is to not have children then kill themselves. As for the so called science, most people regard Big Bang and evolution as truth. They are only theories, that’s what are, theories.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

You do understand the ultimate end game then is population reduction. There is no other way around the apparent problem unless humans are culled. This is what does my head in when people use the term ‘carbon footprint’, that’s us. The best way to reduce ones carbon footprint is to not have children then kill themselves. As for the so called science, most people regard Big Bang and evolution as truth. They are only theories, that’s what are, theories.

Evolution isn't a theory. It was a theory way back until around 1920, but has since been accepted by everyone except the happy clappy sky people.

 

[Grin]

Actually even gravity is still a theory.
Fundamentalist Christians and global warming deniers use term 'theory' as evidence that they are no more relevant than say, the theory that God created the world in 6 days 7 odd thousand years ago, or that Alan Jones understands more about global warming than all of the worlds climate scientists combined.

Our mouths gape in amazement at how ******* dumb these stupid campaigners are. But there's no reasoning with a fundamentalist Christian or a global warming denier.

 

[chelseacarlton]

You do understand the ultimate end game then is population reduction. There is no other way around the apparent problem unless humans are culled. This is what does my head in when people use the term ‘carbon footprint’, that’s us. The best way to reduce ones carbon footprint is to not have children then kill themselves. As for the so called science, most people regard Big Bang and evolution as truth. They are only theories, that’s what are, theories.

Your a idiot
A scientific theory bears no correlation to the common use of the word “theory”
A “scientific theory“ is the most decorated explanation of the natural order, backed up by repeatable experimentation and verified by continuous ongoing observation.
Your a idiot

 

[Mofra]

Your a idiot
A scientific theory bears no correlation to the common use of the word “theory”
A “scientific theory“ is the most decorated explanation of the natural order, backed up by repeatable experimentation and verified by continuous ongoing observation.
Your a idiot

Still waiting for someone to deny the theory of gravity by flying around the room.

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

I don't see anyone volunteering to remove themselves from the gene pool to help fix this supposed problem.

I could compile a pretty healthy list of BF posters who swim in the shallow end of said pool. We can start there.

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

If people who seek to encourage discussion of climate change want to avoid the growing groundswell of other people screaming bullshit back at them, then they really need to stop shouting about every EVENT and pretending it is a PATTERN.

Of they could put forward the evidence based findings of thousands of scientists and then have people scream bullshit back.

Would that work for you?

 

[chelseacarlton]

Still waiting for someone to deny the theory of gravity by flying around the room.

It’s common practice, mostly by those that conform to the belief of creation by way of an unalterable, unfalsifiable unseen first cause or prime mover.
I won’t debunk the Kalam cosmological argument here, as it’s been eviscerated by peops more eloquent than I.
But I will add, that any premise or claim must first meet the requirement of being falsifiable in order to make its way to the hypothesis stage.
Scientific illiteracy is such a bore.

 

[theyellowsash]

Just look at the lovely spring smoke in sydney that happens every year around this time. Sometimes twice. Isn't our natural climate wonderful.

 

[Bicko]

Actually even gravity is still a theory.
Fundamentalist Christians and global warming deniers use term 'theory' as evidence that they are no more relevant than say, the theory that God created the world in 6 days 7 odd thousand years ago, or that Alan Jones understands more about global warming than all of the worlds climate scientists combined.

Our mouths gape in amazement at how ******* dumb these stupid campaigners are. But there's no reasoning with a fundamentalist Christian or a global warming denier.

Let’s say for arguments sake, that you knew someone who was a massive loser who couldn’t hold down a job, constantly high, and suffered from depression and incredibly low self esteem. Then all of sudden turned up one day claiming to be a born-again Christian was no longer an addict, didn’t have depression anymore and just generally felt good about themselves, and let’s say that the person didn’t receive any counselling, weren’t involved in any group or particular person at the time, weren’t hypnotised, etc, and that this person was genuine, they weren’t faking it, it was actually like something like God intervened in their life. Would you be so anti-God after experiencing that? Would it make you question the possibility that your theory wasn’t correct?

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Let’s say for arguments sake, that you knew someone who was a massive loser who couldn’t hold down a job, constantly high, and suffered from depression and incredibly low self esteem. Then all of sudden turned up one day claiming to be a born-again Christian was no longer an addict, didn’t have depression anymore and just generally felt good about themselves, and let’s say that the person didn’t receive any counselling, weren’t involved in any group or particular person at the time, weren’t hypnotised, etc, and that this person was genuine, they weren’t faking it, it was actually like something like God intervened in their life. Would you be so anti-God after experiencing that? Would it make you question the possibility that your theory wasn’t correct?

What about all the people that have a downward trajectory? Or children with cancer? The whole church kiddy fiddler thing...

By your reasoning, that's God's work as well.

 

[Bicko]

What about all the people that have a downward trajectory? Or children with cancer? The whole church kiddy fiddler thing...

By your reasoning, that's God's work as well.

How do you actually conclude that by the question I asked? See how your bias causes you to jump to false accusations?

 

[Grin]

Still waiting for someone to deny the theory of gravity by flying around the room.

Pretty sure I did that last Saturday night

I could compile a pretty healthy list of BF posters who swim in the shallow end of said pool. We can start there.

please don’t

 

[Grin]

Let’s say for arguments sake, that you knew someone who was a massive loser who couldn’t hold down a job, constantly high, and suffered from depression and incredibly low self esteem. Then all of sudden turned up one day claiming to be a born-again Christian was no longer an addict, didn’t have depression anymore and just generally felt good about themselves, and let’s say that the person didn’t receive any counselling, weren’t involved in any group or particular person at the time, weren’t hypnotised, etc, and that this person was genuine, they weren’t faking it, it was actually like something like God intervened in their life. Would you be so anti-God after experiencing that? Would it make you question the possibility that your theory wasn’t correct?

I would think it was really wonderful and I would be ecstatic for him and not knock his faith at all.

The God of the Judeo-Christian tradition is, of course, a humanist

 

[Ghost Patrol]

How do you actually conclude that by the question I asked? See how your bias causes you to jump to false accusations?

It's along the same lines as when you cherry pick the 'good miracles' to suit your own religious bias.

 

[Bicko]

It's along the same lines as when you cherry pick the 'good miracles' to suit your own religious bias.

Still making false accusations.

 

[chelseacarlton]

Let’s say for arguments sake, that you knew someone who was a massive loser who couldn’t hold down a job, constantly high, and suffered from depression and incredibly low self esteem. Then all of sudden turned up one day claiming to be a born-again Christian was no longer an addict, didn’t have depression anymore and just generally felt good about themselves, and let’s say that the person didn’t receive any counselling, weren’t involved in any group or particular person at the time, weren’t hypnotised, etc, and that this person was genuine, they weren’t faking it, it was actually like something like God intervened in their life. Would you be so anti-God after experiencing that? Would it make you question the possibility that your theory wasn’t correct?

Let’s say for arguments sake, that you actually make a cogent argument for starters?
The Theory of Gravity, The Theory of Evolution by way of Natural Selection, Germ Theory, The Big Bang Theory etc. are all as close to absolute fact as the scientific method can get,meh, there are some minor details we are working on, but they are working models that have not only saved lives, but have prolonged our life expectancy by double and our knowledge of our universe by thousand fold compared to some random druggo falling to his knees and screAming JEEBUS......
You have all your work ahead of you and if you continue down this path, next time, I am not going to be so kind!

 

[Art Corvelay]

Let’s say for arguments sake, that you knew someone who was a massive loser who couldn’t hold down a job, constantly high, and suffered from depression and incredibly low self esteem. Then all of sudden turned up one day claiming to be a born-again Christian was no longer an addict, didn’t have depression anymore and just generally felt good about themselves, and let’s say that the person didn’t receive any counselling, weren’t involved in any group or particular person at the time, weren’t hypnotised, etc, and that this person was genuine, they weren’t faking it, it was actually like something like God intervened in their life. Would you be so anti-God after experiencing that? Would it make you question the possibility that your theory wasn’t correct?

Finding meaning in ones life can completely turn a person around. Doesn’t prove God exists, just means they found a purpose in something.