NSW govt bans greyhound racing
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Kynge of Begrem
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come on sprockets - where does the 6.9 per cent figure come from?
Lengthy but worth the read for those genuinely interested in the debate. Luke Foley gets just one thing wrong, which is that greyhound racing is self-regulated. As I've shown previously, it's not. I'm in awe of this speech.
https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/Hansard/Pages/HansardResult.aspx#/docid/HANSARD-1323879322-91745
https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/Hansard/Pages/HansardResult.aspx#/docid/HANSARD-1323879322-91745
You know, this is the same live baiting that was exposed during the 4 Corners program, but it's only now going through the courts and being reported. It's not new, but you know that.
You ask a lot of questions - maybe you're not as informed as you pretend to be. I've told you previously a number of times in here where it's come from.
Hearsay LOL, so we're in a court of law now? GRNSW can't put their name to it as it's part of their confidential submission to the Inquiry, see the above post.
Gents, instead of being lazy and asking me to deliver everything on a platter (it takes a lot of time for me to find answers to everything) why not do some of your own research, but make it genuine research, not just what you read in the tabloids or, in Humphrey B Baird's case, Facebook.
Hearsay isn't exclusively a legal term.
Really, the word isn't used outside of court? Gee. That being the case, I've given you the answer to your question anyway.
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got this email from TBA within 10 days of the greyhound decision. seems people in charge of racing had a fair indication of where everything was heading prior to the date. late last year Racing Australia overtook the studbook for this reason.
http://racingaustralia.horse/upload...ust 2016 - 1, 14B, 15(1), 54A, 64J & 64JA.pdf
TL;DR - basically a tighten up of all the rules currently in place with every horse being tracked by location until death or retirement to a non-racing industry. which is generally only occurring in metropolitan areas and 40% of provincial areas at the moment. Mainly to avoid the RSPCA mistreatment type farms and their owners and to have a 100% defined wastage value instead of the metropolitan sample forecasting for the entire population that they use at the moment.
Even though it is much already easier to find the numbers behind racing than greyhounds which seems obvious that no one can clearly define accurately.
http://racingaustralia.horse/upload...ust 2016 - 1, 14B, 15(1), 54A, 64J & 64JA.pdf
TL;DR - basically a tighten up of all the rules currently in place with every horse being tracked by location until death or retirement to a non-racing industry. which is generally only occurring in metropolitan areas and 40% of provincial areas at the moment. Mainly to avoid the RSPCA mistreatment type farms and their owners and to have a 100% defined wastage value instead of the metropolitan sample forecasting for the entire population that they use at the moment.
Even though it is much already easier to find the numbers behind racing than greyhounds which seems obvious that no one can clearly define accurately.
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so that's a 'no, I don't know what I am talking about' play on.
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That is right. You don't know what you are talking about. You have jumped on a topic, as usual, and gone hard when you know sfa about what is happening!
It is a good speech, but I'm not convinced you fully grasp it.
Your message is that there is no problem. Luke Foley says there are problems that are unacceptable and must be fixed, and that regulation is the answer.
Yet another Johnny-come-lately to the discussion. Exactly where have I stated there's no problem? Go back to the start of the topic and read through it.
EDIT: Here you go, my 3rd post:
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Greater unnecessary euthanasia is brought on by over breeding though. Ridiculous to think its not. Its the poor scrubbo kennels that pump out litter after litter of poorly bred/inbred pups just hoping to land something with ability to get them out of their hole and then discard the rest
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Anyhow, have a Winfield 25.
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Like most things, the over commercialisation of the greyhound racing industry has led to many of the problems that are now being blamed solely on supposed over breeding.
25 years ago when they had country racing the slow dogs had a place to race and >95% of dogs made it to the race track.
Not only has the leader of the Federal Nats criticised the ban, the Prime Minister himself has done the same. This is not just a couple of loonies from a football website going off their rockers nor is it a conspiracy theory.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...g/news-story/b0d9fad6195b22b2c933f6b3c9237a47
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...n/news-story/f4d8e00605bb631491fe524ed92847ab
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...g/news-story/b0d9fad6195b22b2c933f6b3c9237a47
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...n/news-story/f4d8e00605bb631491fe524ed92847ab
The biggest, most successful and 'best' breeder in Australia puts down more greyhounds than anyone else and also outcrosses his lines more than anyone else. Your argument is just plain wrong. But don't worry, you're not on your own in this thread.
I totally agree with this. Even the late John Kaye, leader of the NSW Greens, who was on a crusade to ban greyhound racing, told us that hobbyists (the vast majority of participants) weren't the problem. Take a good look at the people involved in the live baiting scandal as well.
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Not only has the leader of the Federal Nats criticised the ban, the Prime Minister himself has done the same. This is not just a couple of loonies from a football website going off their rockers nor is it a conspiracy theory.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...g/news-story/b0d9fad6195b22b2c933f6b3c9237a47
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...n/news-story/f4d8e00605bb631491fe524ed92847ab
The biggest, most successful and 'best' breeder in Australia puts down more greyhounds than anyone else and also outcrosses his lines more than anyone else. Your argument is just plain wrong. But don't worry, you're not on your own in this thread.
define Euthanised: Not for Racing
It's what you think it is, put down for not being up to scratch.
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That significantly north of 7% and it looks to be clarified by GRNSW?
So if i'm a greyhound. What are my chances of reaching retirement age? Between getting the bullet for being slow, having an accident or all the other reasons you probably have a better chance being a baby turtle.
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75 per cent euthanased. What happened to the 6.9 per cent you were claiming?Not only has the leader of the Federal Nats criticised the ban, the Prime Minister himself has done the same. This is not just a couple of loonies from a football website going off their rockers nor is it a conspiracy theory.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...g/news-story/b0d9fad6195b22b2c933f6b3c9237a47
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...n/news-story/f4d8e00605bb631491fe524ed92847ab
The biggest, most successful and 'best' breeder in Australia puts down more greyhounds than anyone else and also outcrosses his lines more than anyone else. Your argument is just plain wrong. But don't worry, you're not on your own in this thread.
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Believe that was the rate for voluntary euthanasia
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