Analysis Number One Picks since Roo: rank them!

[austinnn]

No. 1 draft picks: Biggest hits and misses

We've got Part 1 (2002-2018) of the biggest hits and misses of No. 1 draft picks!

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I reckon this article is far too diplomatic, except of course to the Saints and Demons, 'cos fakm, natch.

So give us your versions!

Year player club next pick for reference only, not part of ranking
01 Hodge Hawks #16 Ladson
02 Goddard Saints #22 Ferguson
03 Cooney Bulldogs #4 Ray
04 Delidio Tigers #4 Tambling
05 Murphy Blues #4 Kennedy
06 Gibbs Blues #17 Hampson
07 Kruezer Blues #36 Browne
08 Watts Demons #17 Blease
09 Scully Demons #2 Trengrove
10 Swallow Suns #2 Bennell
11 Patton Giants #2 Coniglio
12 Whitfield Giants #2 O'Rourke
13 Boyd Giants #2 Kelly
14 McCartin Saints #21 Goddard
15 Weitering Blues #10 McKay
16 McGrath Bombers #22 Ridley
17 Rayner Lions #15 Bailey
18 Walsh Blues #19 Stocker
19 Rowell Suns #2 Anderson

If I could be arsed I would have also included the revised (commonly accepted) number 1 pick from each year and when they actually got selected as a reference point.

 

[L_W_P]

01 Hodge Hawks
02 Goddard Saints

03 Cooney Bulldogs
05 Murphy Blues
06 Gibbs Blues
04 Delidio Tigers
12 Whitfield Giants

10 Swallow Suns
07 Kruezer Blues
15 Weitering Blues

13 Boyd Giants
09 Scully Demons
16 McGrath Bombers
08 Watts Demons

19 Rowell Suns
18 Walsh Blues

11 Patton Giants
14 McCartin Saints
17 Rayner Lions


Grouped based on overall ability/impact.

Rayner still looks overweight and having minimal impact in a top 2 team. They are carrying him. If he wasn't a top end pick he would be out of that team.

Much like us in 2014, the Lions would have been better off taking Carlton's offer (3 + 10 for 1 + 15) and landing Cerra at 3 and one of Brander of Fogarty at 10.

 

[StCicatriz]

01 Hodge Hawks
02 Goddard Saints

03 Cooney Bulldogs
05 Murphy Blues
06 Gibbs Blues
04 Delidio Tigers
12 Whitfield Giants

10 Swallow Suns
07 Kruezer Blues
15 Weitering Blues

13 Boyd Giants
09 Scully Demons
16 McGrath Bombers
08 Watts Demons

19 Rowell Suns
18 Walsh Blues

11 Patton Giants
14 McCartin Saints
17 Rayner Lions


Grouped based on overall ability/impact.

Rayner still looks overweight and having minimal impact in a top 2 team. They are carrying him. If he wasn't a top end pick he would be out of that team.

Much like us in 2014, the Lions would have been better off taking Carlton's offer (3 + 10 for 1 + 15) and landing Cerra at 3 and one of Brander of Fogarty at 10.

you have mccartin above rayner?

 

[StCicatriz]

PROVEN STARS
01 Hodge Hawks #16 Ladson
02 Goddard Saints #22 Ferguson
03 Cooney Bulldogs #4 Ray

PROVEN VETERANS
05 Murphy Blues #4 Kennedy
04 Delidio Tigers #4 Tambling

GOP -> COULD BE MOVING UP
12 Whitfield Giants #2 O'Rourke
06 Gibbs Blues #17 Hampson
07 Kruezer Blues #36 Browne
08 Watts Demons #17 Blease

TOO EARLY TO TELL BUT LOOK GOOD
19 Rowell Suns #2 Anderson
18 Walsh Blues #19 Stocker
15 Weitering Blues #10 McKay
17 Rayner Lions #15 Bailey
16 McGrath Bombers #22 Ridley

INJURY PRONE (BOYD GETS A PREMIERSHIP PASS HERE, OTHERS GOT TRADE VALUE/IMPACT/STILL GOING)
13 Boyd Giants #2 Kelly
09 Scully Demons #2 Trengrove
10 Swallow Suns #2 Bennell
11 Patton Giants #2 Coniglio

ABSOLUTE DISASTER
14 McCartin Saints #21 Goddard

 

[L_W_P]

you have mccartin above rayner?

I'll admit to not watching a heap of Lions games but I haven't seen anything from Rayner to suggest he is any better than McCartin.

 

[StCicatriz]

I'll admit to not watching a heap of Lions games but I haven't seen anything from Rayner to suggest he is any better than McCartin.

well he's playing!!!

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

I'll admit to not watching a heap of Lions games but I haven't seen anything from Rayner to suggest he is any better than McCartin.

Rayner has improved a lot this season imo

He is starting to get into games

 

[austinnn]

PROVEN STARS
01 Hodge Hawks #16 Ladson
02 Goddard Saints #22 Ferguson
03 Cooney Bulldogs #4 Ray

PROVEN VETERANS
05 Murphy Blues #4 Kennedy
04 Delidio Tigers #4 Tambling

GOP -> COULD BE MOVING UP
12 Whitfield Giants #2 O'Rourke
06 Gibbs Blues #17 Hampson
07 Kruezer Blues #36 Browne
08 Watts Demons #17 Blease

TOO EARLY TO TELL BUT LOOK GOOD
19 Rowell Suns #2 Anderson
18 Walsh Blues #19 Stocker
15 Weitering Blues #10 McKay
17 Rayner Lions #15 Bailey
16 McGrath Bombers #22 Ridley

INJURY PRONE (BOYD GETS A PREMIERSHIP PASS HERE, OTHERS GOT TRADE VALUE/IMPACT/STILL GOING)
13 Boyd Giants #2 Kelly
09 Scully Demons #2 Trengrove
10 Swallow Suns #2 Bennell
11 Patton Giants #2 Coniglio

ABSOLUTE DISASTER
14 McCartin Saints #21 Goddard

IMO

HITS
Hodge
Goddard
Cooney
Whitfield
Swallow

daylight

?
Kruezer
Murphy
Delidio
Gibbs

MISSES
Watts
Scully
Patton
Boyd
McCartin

Too early to tell group
Rowell
Rayner
Walsh
McGrath
Weitering


I suppose you might surmise by looking at this list that I've judged the player unfairly based on the success of their teams, but I have never seen a performance from the Carlton 3 or "Lids" that has left me thinking they were guns. At most they've been good, at worst totally forgettable and nothing you could build a successful team around.

Boyd had one good game, and yes it was a grand final. He did next to nothing for the club that drafted and developed him, Patton was better for them.

 

[Crusty Undies]

I'll admit to not watching a heap of Lions games but I haven't seen anything from Rayner to suggest he is any better than McCartin.

Well for starters he's on an AFL list still.

 

[jwikked]

I'd completely forgotten Goddard was a #1 pick.

 

[pebblesofsand]

I'll admit to not watching a heap of Lions games but I haven't seen anything from Rayner to suggest he is any better than McCartin.

But you are right though

McCartin before he retired due to injury


Cam Rayner

 

[puppy_dog7]

But you are right though

McCartin before he retired due to injury

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Cam Rayner


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When you look at Paddy's stats for playing Key forward in a bad side, he actually wasn't that bad. His averages in his first 35 games are comparable to the likes of Hawkins, Kennedy etc.
Josh Kennedy 35 games - 0.8 goals - 8.7 disp - 5.7 marks
Tom Hawkins 35 games - 1 goal - 10.8 disp - 5.1 marks

Paddy certainly copped and still cops a lot more flack than he deserves. A proper run at it without injuries and i genuinely believe he'd be a very good player.

 

[Dupree73]

HE's in training and got the all clear. Will nominate for the draft. We can still get him back on the list for nothing or he goes into the draft were anyone can take him. I think we need to put him back on the list. As stated above he just needs continuity before you know what you've got and I can only cope with a Joel Smith scenario once in a lifetime.