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Thread by rayven deserves to be on the main board / merged with this: http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=878730

Seems like this is about to get very large. The mainstream media will not be able to ignore/suppress it for much longer. The interesting thing will be to see how far this runs. There was general condemnation when governments tried to shut down twitter / social networks during the Arab Spring - will the US Government do anything like that?

I don't think this will gain much traction in Australia - we are in a much better position, though potentially heading down a similar path.
 
We are controled by News Ltd, so the revolution will be slow here.

But on wall street, It is my humble opinion that it is something that won't go away now people have shown the courage to stand up and what is concerning is Americans citizens are armed.
 
buddy23 said:
Thread by rayven deserves to be on the main board / merged with this: http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=878730

Seems like this is about to get very large. The mainstream media will not be able to ignore/suppress it for much longer. The interesting thing will be to see how far this runs. There was general condemnation when governments tried to shut down twitter / social networks during the Arab Spring - will the US Government do anything like that?

I don't think this will gain much traction in Australia - we are in a much better position, though potentially heading down a similar path.
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We don't do that kind of thing in the free world!

We do this kind of thing:

http://ampedstatus.org/twittercensorship-blocks-occupywallstreet-from-top-trending-topic-twice/

On at least two occasions, Saturday September 17th and again on Thursday night, Twitter blocked #OccupyWallStreet from being featured as a top trending topic on their homepage. On both occasions, #OccupyWallStreet tweets were coming in more frequently than other top trending topics that they were featuring on their homepage. This is blatant political censorship on the part of a company that has recently received a $400 million investment from JP Morgan Chase
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Don't know what their source was for the blocking though, and no time at the moment to chase it up.

Also, this is interesting: http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/10/is-jp-morgan-getting-a-good-return-on-4-6-million-gift-to-nyc-police-like-special-protection-from-occupywallstreet.html
 

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Americans sat back and watch their close allies do this..despite claiming
the moral high ground against Al queda and ba'ath party in Iraq.


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Be interesting how long this occupy wall street thing will be tolerated?
 
I like the idea of the Occupy Wall Street protest. After reading about the situation in America the American People have been left behind and the Corporations are taking advantage. In my opinion the main problem here is corporatism. Free market capitalism has been taken over by corporatism. America needs to aim and strive to get true free market capitalism and not allow the government to bailout large industries like they did during the financial crisis. No industry is to big to fail.
 
Occupy Main Street according to the NY times...

Mike Keane, who owns O’Hara’s Restaurant and Pub, said that the theft of soap and toilet paper had soared and that one protester had used the bathroom but had failed to properly use the toilet. Both Ms. Tzortzatos, owner of the Panini and Company Cafe, and Mr. Keane said the protesters rarely bought anything, yet hurled curses when they were told that only paying customers could use their bathrooms.

Steve Zamfotis, manager of another nearby store, Steve’s Pizza, said: “They are pests. They go to the bathroom and don’t even buy a cup of coffee.”
Mr. Zamfotis closed his bathroom after it repeatedly flooded from protesters’ bathing there.
 
Subprime said:
Occupy Main Street according to the NY times...

Mike Keane, who owns O’Hara’s Restaurant and Pub, said that the theft of soap and toilet paper had soared and that one protester had used the bathroom but had failed to properly use the toilet. Both Ms. Tzortzatos, owner of the Panini and Company Cafe, and Mr. Keane said the protesters rarely bought anything, yet hurled curses when they were told that only paying customers could use their bathrooms.

Steve Zamfotis, manager of another nearby store, Steve’s Pizza, said: “They are pests. They go to the bathroom and don’t even buy a cup of coffee.”
Mr. Zamfotis closed his bathroom after it repeatedly flooded from protesters’ bathing there.
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http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-october-6-2011/wall-street-occupied
 
Someone needs to fix that problem and pay the owners so the valuable but limited press coverage is not used negativly against the protestors.

Amongst the protestors there is people who are smart enough and financial enough to stop this negative publicity
 
News Ltd who own 70 % of the media here are producing their customary intelligent mature appraisals of the movement , such as this..

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Need to focus on tax increases on "job creators" - then the myth of unfocused aims will be put to rest and sets itself up as anti TEA party
 
rayven said:
News Ltd who own 70 % of the media here are producing their customary intelligent mature appraisals of the movement , such as this..

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Dude, Redeye is meant to be a comedy sort of thing. It's not even pretending to be serious (unlike shows such as O'Reilly etc).
 

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Imagine the stench of all the stinky hippies...so long as they didn't touch my Zegna suit on the way past I couldn't care less about them...

The USA has a bit of an arse about tax system over there and they do need to get it right. Do it sooner rather than later.

Maybe instead of protesting the hippies could volunteer working with sick and under privileged kids or something.
 
Just a bunch of jealous poor people having a whinge. Instead if protesting they should be out working to become one of the 1%. **** the poor!
 
Bodicifer said:
Imagine the stench of all the stinky hippies...so long as they didn't touch my Zegna suit on the way past I couldn't care less about them...

The USA has a bit of an arse about tax system over there and they do need to get it right. Do it sooner rather than later.

Maybe instead of protesting the hippies could volunteer working with sick and under privileged kids or something.
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So if you're against growing financialisation and its effects, you're a hippy? Wow, I never knew - better get myself some dreads and quit my job.
 
Here is a look at the numbers behind the protest:

http://www.slate.com/articles/busin...the_top_one_1_percent_of_americans_have_.html

It seems that the top 1% have been gaining proportionally more over the past few decades, and now the 99% have identified that trend and want to do something about it.

I'd be interested to see similar figures for Australia. I'd guess that the gap would be much narrower, though it would be following a similar trend.

Also, from that article, this article is linked:

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2010/09/theoretical_egalitarians.html

That article was written in September 2010. The interesting end to the first paragraph of that article is:
Indeed, the political question foremost in Washington's mind is how thoroughly the political party more closely associated with the working class (that would be the Democrats) will get clobbered in the next election. Why aren't the bottom 99 percent marching in the streets?
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looks like a revolution by proxy. on behalf of the actual poor people. i look at the crowd and most of their problems could just as easily be borne by their consumer lifestyle. i'm not privy to the socio-economics of the wall street district but i'm guessing most of the crowd don't have it too bad. without the same personal affliction from what they are complaining about, the passion just won't last. they need their food and housing taken away to make this last (and for it to get beyond simply standing around with a sign).
 
What dont you get?

people being taken to court for morgages that are sold for 1 buck by the bank? yet the owners pay 100's month to creditors?


the doco zeitgiest is a good reference for how things happen. not that they are 100% right but they do describe well how a system works...

what no one will say is that the reds under the beds were better off for us , but not the banks...

any way you go the elite load there pockets....but if the elite is just for the elite as with what happens now?

where are you blackcat? you put it so much better than me?
 
Ruck Machine said:
Troll? No. Realist, definitely.

Perhaps you can explain to me how my statement is stupid?
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Banks get bailed out to the tune of trillions of dollars and immediately use this money to pay their execs multi million dollar bonuses.

The biggest companies in the US paying zero federal tax.

Tax loop holes and tax breaks for the rich.

.... for starters.
 
SexyBlueGirl said:
Banks get bailed out to the tune of trillions of dollars and immediately use this money to pay their execs multi million dollar bonuses.

The biggest companies in the US paying zero federal tax.

Tax loop holes and tax breaks for the rich.

.... for starters.
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Bieber?

Who knew Canuck popstar liked Blues and Affle.
 
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