ODI Squad

[Bradesmaen]

Been a pretty good finisher with bat and ball in the Big Bash this season.

BB isnt ODI

 

[Kyptastic]

BB isnt ODI

I'd argue death bowling and late order hitting are basically the same in t20 and 50 over cricket though. The skills are easily transferable between formats.

 

[Bradesmaen]

I'd argue death bowling and late order hitting are basically the same in t20 and 50 over cricket though. The skills are easily transferable between formats.

Yeah sure that is. But are you putting him in there for a maybe needed in terms of hitting and just death bowling? What about his other 7 overs? He'll be needed to bowl at the death because his other overs will got for 50.

 

[Kyptastic]

Yeah sure that is. But are you putting him in there for a maybe needed in terms of hitting and just death bowling? What about his other 7 overs? He'll be needed to bowl at the death because his other overs will got for 50.

That's where you back him to improve in the national set up, surrounded by experienced players and coaches to guide him through.

We picked bowlers like Pattinson before they were the complete package because there was something there. I'd argue the same applies to NCN.

 

[Bradesmaen]

That's where you back him to improve in the national set up, surrounded by experienced players and coaches to guide him through.

We picked bowlers like Pattinson before they were the complete package because there was something there. I'd argue the same applies to NCN.

He should improve first in the local tournament first (when they used to have one). He hasn't proven to be a good player at state level, there are players out there better than him who have proven to be better, but aren't as "special". He's another Starc/Johnson really. Picked with rubbish results, producing rubbish and still getting picked.

 

[Kyptastic]

He should improve first in the local tournament first (when they used to have one). He hasn't proven to be a good player at state level, there are players out there better than him who have proven to be better, but aren't as "special". He's another Starc/Johnson really. Picked with rubbish results, producing rubbish and still getting picked.

He took the second most amount of wickets in the Ryobi cup last year - 16 wickets in 7 matches at 23 conceding 4.9 an over.

Was 7th the season before from only 5 games.

His batting adds to his selectability. If those aren't good stats at state level, I don't know what is.

 

[Bradesmaen]

He took the second most amount of wickets in the Ryobi cup last year - 16 wickets in 7 matches at 23 conceding 4.9 an over.

Was 7th the season before from only 5 games.

His batting adds to his selectability. If those aren't good stats at state level, I don't know what is.

And the man above him isn't playing because he isn't as "special". Not too different from Hastings and he isn't getting a game, provides the same allround ability and is more proven. The problem is his 5 an over. If he isn't taking wickets, he provides nothing. And he doesn't take a lot of wickets.

 

[Clint Beastwood]

He should improve first in the local tournament first (when they used to have one). He hasn't proven to be a good player at state level, there are players out there better than him who have proven to be better, but aren't as "special". He's another Starc/Johnson really. Picked with rubbish results, producing rubbish and still getting picked.

His results are most certainly not rubbish. He's been in excellent form for the Scorchers and the Warriors which warrants his selection.

 

[Kyptastic]

5 an over is pretty good in one dayers these days - would take that every time.

Richardson was selected at the same time as NCN, but had trouble with his follow through, which is how Coulter-Nile went past him.

 

[Bradesmaen]

5 an over is pretty good in one dayers these days - would take that every time.

Richardson was selected at the same time as NCN, but had trouble with his follow through, which is how Coulter-Nile went past him.

By performing rubbish, but being a golden child of Aus cricket. Selection panel has no balls, needs to be gutted and put non-CA affiliated people in place.

 

[Hellgood]

He should improve first in the local tournament first (when they used to have one). He hasn't proven to be a good player at state level, there are players out there better than him who have proven to be better, but aren't as "special". He's another Starc/Johnson really. Picked with rubbish results, producing rubbish and still getting picked.

Hasn't proven to be a good player at state level? How can you back that statement up? His stats look fine to me and he's quick, aggressive with a terrific action. How about you start naming the names of who you think should be there? I'd be amazed if they had better ODI records than Johnson and Starc.

 

[Hellgood]

Hard for Coulter-Nile to have gone past Richardson when he's never been behind him.

 

[Doodlesweaver]

And the man above him isn't playing because he isn't as "special". Not too different from Hastings and he isn't getting a game, provides the same allround ability and is more proven. The problem is his 5 an over. If he isn't taking wickets, he provides nothing. And he doesn't take a lot of wickets.

Bradesmaen, how do you work out that Richardson is an example of someone hard done by (based on previous posts of yours) as he is one of the players who has come through the junior ranks and played for Aus at age level so he is one of the 'insiders'. Richardson is still pretty young, what is he 21/22? I'm sure he'll be back in the reckoning at some point.

Having said that, I'm not sure about NCN myself. Be interesting to see how he goes at ODI level if given a decent run.

 

[Zach Package]

By performing rubbish, but being a golden child of Aus cricket. Selection panel has no balls, needs to be gutted and put non-CA affiliated people in place.

Yeah let's bring in people who don't work in cricket, that'll end well....

Perhaps Kevin Sheedy, he's not doing much

 

[PTizzle]

By performing rubbish, but being a golden child of Aus cricket. Selection panel has no balls, needs to be gutted and put non-CA affiliated people in place.

Having played 2 ODIs and 3 T20Is by age 26 would hardly suggest he's a 'golden child'.

As for not taking wickets enough, his List A wicket strike rate is better than Johnson, Faulkner and McKay.

I don't really get the vendetta saying he's not good enough even at state level. He's been a good state player, thus he's been picked and will get an opportunity. If he fails he'll be moved on. You talk about him like he's Shaun Marsh or something.

 

[crows dude]

So Clarke saysJohnson and Pattinson both out. The 11 iis Warner, Watson,Finch,Clarke, Bailey, Haddin, Maxwell, faulkner, Coulter Nile, Mckay, Doherty.
Not sure about the bowling line up there. Patto should be in front of coulter nile and faulkner.

 

[eth-dog]

So Clarke saysJohnson and Pattinson both out. The 11 iis Warner, Watson,Finch,Clarke, Bailey, Haddin, Maxwell, faulkner, Coulter Nile, Mckay, Doherty.
Not sure about the bowling line up there. Patto should be in front of coulter nile and faulkner.

Have you seen Faulkner's ODD/ODI record?

 

[crows dude]

Have you seen Faulkner's ODD/ODI record?

Yes I have. That bowling line up though doesnt give me much confidence. Faulkner, Coulter-Nile and Maxwell are all players who can do a bit with both bat and and ball but not great at either. Our only bowlers are Mckay and Doherty. Then 3 bowling all rounders. 1 Batting all rounder in Watson. Too many all rounders for my liking. We will still beat England though.

 

[eth-dog]

Yes I have. That bowling line up though doesnt give me much confidence. Faulkner, Coulter-Nile and Maxwell are all players who can do a bit with both bat and and ball but not great at either. Our only bowlers are Mckay and Doherty. Then 3 bowling all rounders. 1 Batting all rounder in Watson. Too many all rounders for my liking. We will still beat England though.

Wow. Faulkner is a very good ODI bowler, regardess of his batting. Coulter-Nile is hardly an allrounder as well. Very handy with the bat, but would you classify Johnson as an allrounder? And Maxwell is definitely a batting allrounder

 

[TassieEagle]

I would prefer Patto over NCN but other than that very happy with the team, no doubt the quicks will be rotated in and out anyway.

 

[Yoda_]

The 11 iis Warner, Watson,Finch,Clarke, Bailey, Haddin, Maxwell, faulkner, Coulter Nile, Mckay, Doherty.

David Warner
Aaron Finch
Shane Watson
Michael Clarke
George Bailey
Glenn Maxwell
Brad Haddin
James Faulkner
Nathan Coulter - Nile
Clint McKay
Xavier Doherety

Seems that's the general consensus of our batting line up?

Yes I have. That bowling line up though doesnt give me much confidence. Faulkner, Coulter-Nile and Maxwell are all players who can do a bit with both bat and and ball but not great at either. Our only bowlers are Mckay and Doherty. Then 3 bowling all rounders. 1 Batting all rounder in Watson. Too many all rounders for my liking. We will still beat England though.

Our tail is fairly short, even X can hold his own with the bat, and McKay has shown he can hang around. Hopefully we don't even need to see Haddin, Faulkner, Coulter - Nile.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Happy with the team named. I hope we see Pattinson and Johnson unleashed at the Gabba next Friday.

 

[Yoda_]

Probably just taking a cautious approach with Pattinson after his injuries he has had recently. Only resumed in Premier Cricket just weeks ago.

 

[Freo Big Fella]

By performing rubbish, but being a golden child of Aus cricket. Selection panel has no balls, needs to be gutted and put non-CA affiliated people in place.

Yep - it's all a conspiracy. Nothing to do with him taking 20 more career wickets at a lower average from the same number of games.

 

[aussierulesrules]

Love our batting lineup. Don't think England would have lost too much sleep worrying about our bowling lineup though! Hopefully we'll put 350+ on the board and it won't matter.