ODI Squad

[tazzietiger]

It's probably already been posted somewhere but I thought I would post it here anyways. Crowd's might be down for ODI's but tv ratings these days could play a key role in the survival of the format and the tv ratings seems to be holding up well.

Following the conclusion of the five Ashes tests, won 5-0 by Australia, cricket keeps delivering for Nine with the first One Day International between Australia and England yesterday.
Nine's coverage of Australia's easy six-wicket victory had a national peak audience of more than three million viewers and an average audience of 2.450 million
The second session had an average metro audience of 1.635 million viewers - the fifth-highest England v Australia one-dayer since OzTam ratings began in 2001 - while the first session averaged 1.246 million.
The cricket was the top-rating program of Sunday night, with Nine News averaging 1.505 million viewers in the five metro markets.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/med...-out-of-the-park/story-e6frg996-1226800520390

 

[KissKiss]

Its another topic but I still don't really get how they calculate the ratings these days.

 

[Ducky Tie]

Smith has been called up as cover for Bailey.

In unrelated news, Adam Voges has ran over John Inverarity's dog.

 

[The_Reaper]

Smith has been called up as cover for Bailey.

In unrelated news, Adam Voges has ran over John Inverarity's dog.

Voges did well but Smith really has to be in the squad.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Smith has been called up as cover for Bailey.

In unrelated news, Adam Voges has ran over John Inverarity's dog.

Voges isn't in THAT good form though recently. Smith is belting runs in test matches, T20's...ODD.

 

[Ducky Tie]

Voges did well but Smith really has to be in the squad.

Why? Voges has been outstanding for the last 12 months in ODIs. Averaging around 45. Smith is a good OD player but Voges is better at this stage.

Voges isn't in THAT good form though recently. Smith is belting runs in test matches, T20's...ODD.

He's been in great ODI form for a long period of time. I couldn't care less how he's gone in the BBL when it comes to ODIs. They are completely different formats. Smith had a great ryobi which is the only OD form he can be judged on, test and t20 cricket is irrelevant, but that doesn't equate to 12 months of international success.

Voges has been one of our best batsman over the last 12 months in this form. He deserves first crack at the open spot.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Why? Voges has been outstanding for the last 12 months in ODIs. Averaging around 45. Smith is a good OD player but Voges is better at this stage.
He's been in great ODI form for a long period of time. I couldn't care less how he's gone in the BBL when it comes to ODIs. They are completely different formats. Smith had a great ryobi which is the only OD form he can be judged on, test and t20 cricket is irrelevant, but that doesn't equate to 12 months of international success.

Voges has been one of our best batsman over the last 12 months in this form. He deserves first crack at the open spot.

Voges is okay but I don't see why we need Clarke AND Voges they are practically the same player. Smith is something different as an elite player of spin. Also rate Smith late in an innings more than Voges. I rate Voges at 3-5...I worry about him as a 6 or 7 coming in with 6 overs left.

 

[Zach Package]

Why? Voges has been outstanding for the last 12 months in ODIs. Averaging around 45. Smith is a good OD player but Voges is better at this stage.
He's been in great ODI form for a long period of time. I couldn't care less how he's gone in the BBL when it comes to ODIs. They are completely different formats. Smith had a great ryobi which is the only OD form he can be judged on, test and t20 cricket is irrelevant, but that doesn't equate to 12 months of international success.

Voges has been one of our best batsman over the last 12 months in this form. He deserves first crack at the open spot.

Voges is in his thirties, Smith is the future.

Neither are in our best set up to be perfectly honest (imo our best set up is the current top 6), so it's basically a coin flip, and Smitty has more cricket behind him, plus Voges has that dicky shoulder.

 

[Ducky Tie]

Voges is okay but I don't see why we need Clarke AND Voges they are practically the same player. Smith is something different as an elite player of spin. Also rate Smith late in an innings more than Voges. I rate Voges at 3-5...I worry about him as a 6 or 7 coming in with 6 overs left.

You don't want Voges because he's too much like Clarke? I'd love another player like Clarke in the side. Clarke is a great ODI player. That's not to say that I agree with the comparison, Voges is far more aggressive than Clarke, shown by his strike rate of 87 compared to Clarke's 78. The World Cup is in Australia and NZ in 12 months, making runs is more important than being an elite player of spin. The spot we're talking about is number 5, cover for Bailey. You don't have to rate him at 6 or 7.

 

[Ducky Tie]

Voges is in his thirties, Smith is the future.

Neither are in our best set up to be perfectly honest (imo our best set up is the current top 6), so it's basically a coin flip, and Smitty has more cricket behind him, plus Voges has that dicky shoulder.

I agree that Voges isn't in our best side, Clarke and Bailey are immovable at four and five. I'm talking about who should replace Bailey should his injury keep him out.

The World Cup is in 12 months, age is irrelevant.

 

[Yoda_]

Voges is in his thirties, Smith is the future.

Neither are in our best set up to be perfectly honest (imo our best set up is the current top 6), so it's basically a coin flip, and Smitty has more cricket behind him, plus Voges has that dicky shoulder.

To be fair Jack Package, you have to agree with tomsimpkin31?

As good a form as Smith is in, Voges has runs on the board in ODI cricket.

Voges has performed for Australia (averages 45 with 1/3 of his innings not outs to boost it I guess) whilst Smith has not made a 50 let alone an ODI century.

I'd be going with Adam Voges with an eye to the world cup. Steve Smith will get his chance.

 

[Howard Littlejohn]

Voges is in his thirties, Smith is the future.

Who cares. Selection now is about the 2015 World Cup, not the 2019 one. Voges will presumably still be around in 13 months time, so age is utterly irrelevant.
That said, provided both get a go between now and the WC squad being named I'm fairly happy if Smith is picked at this point.

 

[Yoda_]

Hoping they don't go with Nathan Coulter - Nile.

Not a huge fan of him and his stats so far have been very underwhelming.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

You don't want Voges because he's too much like Clarke? I'd love another player like Clarke in the side. Clarke is a great ODI player. That's not to say that I agree with the comparison, Voges is far more aggressive than Clarke, shown by his strike rate of 87 compared to Clarke's 78. The World Cup is in Australia and NZ in 12 months, making runs is more important than being an elite player of spin. The spot we're talking about is number 5, cover for Bailey. You don't have to rate him at 6 or 7.

Voges is just another nurdler. He just picks up singles...which is fine BUT you need to have guys striking 95+ at the end. I still would rather have a Dan Christian in the squad over both for instance. Genuine power hitter late in the innings. They are vital!

 

[Ducky Tie]

Voges is just another nurdler. He just picks up singles...which is fine BUT you need to have guys striking 95+ at the end. I still would rather have a Dan Christian in the squad over both for instance. Genuine power hitter late in the innings. They are vital!

You do realise we're talking about number 5 in the batting order?

 

[Yoda_]

Voges is just another nurdler. He just picks up singles...which is fine BUT you need to have guys striking 95+ at the end. I still would rather have a Dan Christian in the squad over both for instance. Genuine power hitter late in the innings. They are vital!

I would have thought that Australia is lucky in that our middle - lower order are able to strike big late in the innings which allows guys like Voges, Clarke and even Haddin to go when they want. The power stuff can still be done by the lower order like Faulkner, Johnson and even NCN (if in)

 

[brisbane13]

Y no M Marsh?

Simple
M.Marsh from WA
D,Christian originally from NSW now playing for vic.
He had even been dropped from the vic shield &ryobi cup teams at times through out last year

 

[Phone]

Simple
M.Marsh from WA
D,Christian originally from NSW now playing for vic.
He had even been dropped from the vic shield &ryobi cup teams at times through out last year

you are aware that the direct result of Christian being picked is that New South Wales all-rounder M. Henriques was not picked, and New South Wales batsman S. Smith was not picked, right? Grow up and get some proper analysis buddy

better reasoning: Lehmann has signed Christian for the Heat and his IPL team. He probably would have tried to sign Christian for QLD too. When Christian was justly dropped from the SA team last season, Lehmann retweeted

He likes Christian. Christian had decent enough form behind and Australia rested their all-rounder. Christian was picked. Lehmann is not the first coach to 'believe' in a player that others don't believe in. It happens.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Mitch Marsh isn't in the greatest form either.

 

[The_Reaper]

I personally wouldn't have picked Marsh just yet. Having seen him recently he needs to gain a bit more fitness and confidence in his body so he can bowl at the same pace he used to.

He's a great future prospect but not ready just yet.

 

[brisbane13]

you are aware that the direct result of Christian being picked is that New South Wales all-rounder M. Henriques was not picked, and New South Wales batsman S. Smith was not picked, right? Grow up and get some proper analysis buddy

better reasoning: Lehmann has signed Christian for the Heat and his IPL team. He probably would have tried to sign Christian for QLD too. When Christian was justly dropped from the SA team last season, Lehmann retweeted

He likes Christian. Christian had decent enough form behind and Australia rested their all-rounder. Christian was picked. Lehmann is not the first coach to 'believe' in a player that others don't believe in. It happens.

Henriques is the most over rated spud in Australisn Cricket, seven years in the system & dont almost nothing but commentators like Slater & M Waugh think he is the greatest thing going around.
its bemusing why S Smith hasn't been selected, as much as i try to like him, i cant stand him. but he has the runs on the board, & is a brilliant fielder. but vodges cant get a spot in the ODI side either. but who do you replace Bailey or Clarke in the middle order?

 

[Yoda_]

Henriques is the most over rated spud in Australisn Cricket, seven years in the system & dont almost nothing but commentators like Slater & M Waugh think he is the greatest thing going around.
its bemusing why S Smith hasn't been selected, as much as i try to like him, i cant stand him. but he has the runs on the board, & is a brilliant fielder. but vodges cant get a spot in the ODI side either. but who do you replace Bailey or Clarke in the middle order?

You must be talking about a different Steven Smith.

The australian cricketer averages 21, has never hit an ODI half century let alone a century and is rightly so not selected in the ODI squad.

 

[Torz]

You must be talking about a different Steven Smith.

The australian cricketer averages 21, has never hit an ODI half century let alone a century and is rightly so not selected in the ODI squad.

You can't judge Smith's ODI record. He's a completely different player now, both in role and ability.

 

[Phone]

no-one is saying steve smith should be picked because of a proven record in ODI cricket. you're judging steve smith during a period where he bowled more often than he batted. (32 matches, 21 batted in, 26 bowled in). it would like saying jobe watson should not be considered as one of the best players in the comp because he was bad in 2005.

 

[The_Reaper]

You must be talking about a different Steven Smith.

The australian cricketer averages 21, has never hit an ODI half century let alone a century and is rightly so not selected in the ODI squad.

By that logic we shouldn't have brought Smith back into the test team.