News Off-season list management changes - summary only, no chat

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Latest news (most recent at the top):


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Easton Wood
:trophy: has announced his retirement despite having a year left on his contract.


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Ben Cavarra
and Will Hayes have been delisted.


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Mitch Wallis has signed a one year contract extension.


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Roarke Smith has signed for another two years.


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Patrick Lipinski has been traded to Collingwood for pick 43


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Jordon Sweet has re-signed for another two years - until 2023


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Lewis Young (22, 24 games) has been traded to Carlton in a three-way deal involving West Coast, effectively in return for pick 52.



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Tim O'Brien (27, 193cm, 90kg, 97 games) has joined the WB from Hawthorn as an unrestricted free agent.


  • WB have completed a four-way trade of picks acquiring picks 23, 44 and 45 (1524 points) in exchange for picks 17 and 75 (1025 points)
  • Lewis Young (22) has requested a trade to Carlton
  • Paddy Lipinski (23) has requested a trade to Collingwood


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Lin Jong (28) has retired.

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OP:
I don't know if people actually read all the posts in the trades thread, the draft thread and the various other trade-season discussion threads. If you do you deserve a medal. Or may be a kick up the arse for not doing anything productive with your time.

Anyway, as in other years, here's a thread for 2021 Western Bulldog trade, draft and other list management news so you can check in once or twice a day and get a quick synopsis all in the one place.

No discussion in this thread please.

Acceptable:
  • WB players officially requesting a trade to another club
  • Players officially requesting a trade to the Bulldogs
  • Execution of any such trade (lodged with AFL)
  • Completed trades for draft picks (lodged with AFL)
  • Officially nominated or completed free agent moves involving the Bulldogs
  • Players officially nominating us as their preferred destination under Father/Son and NGA rules (also any expected FS/NGA nomination of us that doesn't eventuate by the deadline)
  • WB player confirmed delistings and retirements
  • Draft selections (but if we have a whole separate thread for draft night that's OK instead)
  • Club-announced contract renewals
  • An official list of off-season dates and deadlines (eg when various trade periods start/end)
Take it elsewhere:
  • Vague rumours, including those hot tips you got from a mate or some other board
  • Random media speculation including social media
  • Fake news
  • Discussion of any particular player, trade, list hole, draftee, draft points issue, etc
  • Coaching changes (there's a separate thread for that)
  • Repetition of something already posted
  • News of list changes at other clubs that don't involve current or soon-to-be WB players (not even if they are WB past players)
  • Anything else that distracts from a neat summary of the news
 
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Lin Jong has officially retired
 

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WB have completed a complex 4-way trade of picks:

TRADE SUMMARY

Melbourne
In:
17, 37, 49
Out: Future first, 33, 45


Western Bulldogs
In:
23, 44, 45
Out: 17, 75


Adelaide
In:
Future first (Melbourne), 33, 75
Out: 23, 37, 44, 62, 66, future fourth


St Kilda
In:
62, 66, future fourth (Adelaide)
Out: 49

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Here's what it means in points for us:
In: 815+362+347 = 1524
Out: 1025+0

Net points gained = 499

1524 points will cover us for a bid on Sam Darcy from pick 5 onward (pick 5 = 1878, less 20% discount = 1503).
Any higher bid (1-4) will require supplementary points and/or carrying a points deficit into 2022.
 

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Tim O'Brien (193cm and 90kg+) joins the WB as an unrestricted free agent, after 97 games and 73 goals with Hawthorn. He was pick 28 in the 2012 draft.
 
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Draft points update:
The acquisition of pick 52 now gives us 1770 points which is comfortably enough to match a draft bid at pick 4 for Sam Darcy and only 22 points short of enough for a bid at pick 3.
 

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Draft points update:
The acquisition of pick 52 now gives us 1770 points which is comfortably enough to match a draft bid at pick 4 for Sam Darcy and only 22 points short of enough for a bid at pick 3.
Sorry dogwatch, not discussion and not trying to be smart, but what is pick 2 value with the relevant discount? (Feel free to delete post if you'd prefer to update your post.)
Edit: just thought it might be releavnt given the mooted bid by GWS.
 

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Sorry dogwatch, not discussion and not trying to be smart, but what is pick 2 value with the relevant discount? (Feel free to delete post if you'd prefer to update your post.)
Edit: just thought it might be releavnt given the mooted bid by GWS.
No problem as a one-off.
Pick 2 (2517) with a 20% discount is 2014 points, so we'd need another 244 points (equal to say pick 51 ... since we already have pick 52).
And before you ask, pick 1 is 3000 which comes down to 2400 pts with the discount, so we'd need another 630 pts (about pick 30).

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Patrick Lipinski traded to Collingwood for pick 43
 

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The acquisition of pick 43 (for Lipinski) gives us an extra 378 draft points.
This means with picks 23, 43, 44, 45 and 52 (and also pick 93 which has no points value) we now have 2148 points. With the 20% discount it means we can match any bid for Sam Darcy up to and including pick #2 and get a late pick back with the loose change.

It's a complex business because of the way picks get shuffled up and down when bids are matched, but if our draft hand doesn't change before draft night this is how I think we'd shape up for any top 10 bid on Sam Darcy. Happy to be corrected if I've got it wrong.

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A deficit of 252 points carried forward to 2022 would shuffle our first pick down anywhere from one place (pick 1 down to pick 2) to four places (pick 9 down to 13) to eight places (pick 18 :trophy::) down to pick 26).
 
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Roarke Smith has signed for another two years.
 

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Easton Wood announces his retirement.
 

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