Official Daniel Rich Whinge Thread

[hille2prismal]

i think it's pretty obvious we shoulda taken rich, however it makes me feel better that we took potentially the best kpd in the draft for the last few years, esp because the gold coast is gonna take all the kp players for the next couple of years, the stocks will be depleted but midfielders will still be a plenty.
still, we shoulda taken rich

 

[essendon2008]

i think it's pretty obvious we shoulda taken rich, however it makes me feel better that we took potentially the best kpd in the draft for the last few years, esp because the gold coast is gonna take all the kp players for the next couple of years, the stocks will be depleted but midfielders will still be a plenty.
still, we shoulda taken rich

Why is it pretty obvious we should have taken Rich? Because everyone on Big Footy says so?

 

[hille2prismal]

Why is it pretty obvious we should have taken Rich? Because everyone on Big Footy says so?

cause he's very very good , no matter what other people say, he's dominated so many games in midfield and is almost definite the rising star of 2009, essendon can't keep "rebuilding" and developing a solid "spine", at this stage they just need to take the best available. remember keplar bradley? LAWL don't forget essendon has been rebuilding since 2002, so 6 years later and we still dont have a good midfield. sad really. even more sad is that we wont make the top 8 in 2009 with our list (and i'd love to be proven wrong)

 

[Hollow Knight]

cause he's very very good , no matter what other people say, he's dominated so many games in midfield and is almost definite the rising star of 2009, essendon can't keep "rebuilding" and developing a solid "spine", at this stage they just need to take the best available. remember keplar bradley? LAWL don't forget essendon has been rebuilding since 2002, so 6 years later and we still dont have a good midfield. sad really. even more sad is that we wont make the top 8 in 2009 with our list (and i'd love to be proven wrong)

Big blokes take longer to mature. Getting your KPP players sorted first isn't a bad strategy at all. Then you can go for the cream midfield talent afterwards, and hopefully they all peak around the same time.

I think Knights is just quietly going about his business very smartly.

 

[yaco55]

EFC has decided to rebuild their spine as their first priority.

It may end up being the right or wrong strategy ( time will tell ) but at least the club has held firm to that strategy.

 

[hille2prismal]

EFC has decided to rebuild their spine as their first priority.

It may end up being the right or wrong strategy ( time will tell ) but at least the club has held firm to that strategy.

6 years not enough to rebuild their spine? surely it only takes 3, 4 years of bottom ladder finishes to draft the required players... it's been 6 years and we're still recruiting kpd over a ready made midfield superstar.
and according to browndog, "Then you can go for the cream midfield talent afterwards, and hopefully they all peak around the same time." if this is true, then essendon will start recruiting high pick midfielders for the next lets say 3 years (that's if the goldcoast doesn't take them all", and give them a minimum of 3 years to become quality so thats probably another 5 year wait until we are title challengers. i dunno about you but waiting 11 years to become contenders of a flag is a bit much? and also a long time to wait from a bomber supporters view
all i'm saying is someone has got it wrong big time and has put us back about 3 years in development

 

[bomberstomake8]

6 years not enough to rebuild their spine? surely it only takes 3, 4 years of bottom ladder finishes to draft the required players... it's been 6 years and we're still recruiting kpd over a ready made midfield superstar.
and according to browndog, "Then you can go for the cream midfield talent afterwards, and hopefully they all peak around the same time." if this is true, then essendon will start recruiting high pick midfielders for the next lets say 3 years (that's if the goldcoast doesn't take them all", and give them a minimum of 3 years to become quality so thats probably another 5 year wait until we are title challengers. i dunno about you but waiting 11 years to become contenders of a flag is a bit much? and also a long time to wait from a bomber supporters view
all i'm saying is someone has got it wrong big time and has put us back about 3 years in development

umm rebuilding since 2002?

in 2002 we finished 5th, and we made the finals in 2003 and 2004. 2005 was when we started to get bad
so its 2005-2008. not 6 years or whatever you said.

the club has got the strategy right, defenders take longer to mature so they should be picked first. then we will get into the midfeilders. although richwould have forced me to change the strategy

 

[ant555]

6 years not enough to rebuild their spine? surely it only takes 3, 4 years of bottom ladder finishes to draft the required players... it's been 6 years and we're still recruiting kpd over a ready made midfield superstar.
and according to browndog, "Then you can go for the cream midfield talent afterwards, and hopefully they all peak around the same time." if this is true, then essendon will start recruiting high pick midfielders for the next lets say 3 years (that's if the goldcoast doesn't take them all", and give them a minimum of 3 years to become quality so thats probably another 5 year wait until we are title challengers. i dunno about you but waiting 11 years to become contenders of a flag is a bit much? and also a long time to wait from a bomber supporters view
all i'm saying is someone has got it wrong big time and has put us back about 3 years in development

Ok so name the great spine we have rebuilt over the last few years and explain how we are going to replace our talls!
What you have to realise is that with Knights coming on board last year we pretty much started a partial rebuilding process again.
Personally i would have gone midfielder first and then drafted some talls but you can not argue that there was a compelling case to find some more KP players. If you look at it from the clubs point of view they will back the current young group of Houli , Reimers , Lonergan etc to get the job done in the future . If you compare the young midfield group to the defenders , the defenders certainly look a bit short in numbers.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

Plus, as someone else said, we can essentially draft all midfielders for the next few drafts, if we want to. If we are lacking in mids, in the club's opinion, we can take heaps of them, and they can, between them, take 1-3 spots in the team straight away.

 

[Hawkas_01]

I shudder to think how many goals Buddy and Roughy are going to kick on Ryder and Hurly in the next few years. I wonder whats the most goals combined by two forwards in a game, the hawks boys will give it a shake.


Bad Luck on missing out on Rich. Wrong decision

 

[Jono B]

In the next 3 years we are going to lose not only most of our spine but half our leadership group. Picking up mature heads in Myers, Hurley and Zaharakis appears to be smart thinking strategically.

 

[ant555]

I shudder to think how many goals Buddy and Roughy are going to kick on Ryder and Hurly in the next few years. I wonder whats the most goals combined by two forwards in a game, the hawks boys will give it a shake.


Bad Luck on missing out on Rich. Wrong decision

So Rich was going to stop Buddy was he ?
Looking forward to seeing the first game Rich plays against the Hawks. Im betting he wont be lining up in defence
Talk about a totally irrelevant argument for picking Rich in the draft

 

[Lance Uppercut]

I shudder to think how many goals Buddy and Roughy are going to kick on Ryder and Hurly in the next few years. I wonder whats the most goals combined by two forwards in a game, the hawks boys will give it a shake.

gonna be a bit ****ing hard what with Roughead playing with the GC, but good luck with that

Bad Luck on missing out on Rich. Wrong decision

Luck? How stupid can one person be? You're a bona fide moron. Forgive me for not rating your opinion, dumbo

 

[Mr Mosquito]

People are saying in here how Essendon should have focused on midfielders in this draft, I think you are forgetting that we have taken Brent Prismall and Zaharakis in this draft. Prismall's impact will be immediate and im confident that Zaha will develop into a quality mid also. So the statement that we are neglecting our midfield in favour of a good spine is not entirely true

 

[daffo]

I would of loved us to take Rich at 5. Ready made player that will have a huge impact next year.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Agreed, although at least it allows me to have a soft spot for the Lions and the Eagles as the two mids that I wanted went to those two sides. Hope Hurley doesn't backfire on us. But I am slowly warming to the selection, I am more annoyed at the pick 23 selestion, however at least he is thrilled to be picked by us and hopefully he can show he is worth a high pick. I do feel we overpaid for him though.

 

[Burzum]

Don't try and act like you didn't want Hurley earlier this year.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I have always said we needed A Grade elite midfielders over KPP players RIG

 

[Ben the Gooner]

In the next 3 years we are going to lose not only most of our spine but half our leadership group. Picking up mature heads in Myers, Hurley andZaharakis appears to be smart thinking strategically.

Great point. Spike and Hille would be behind Lloyd, Lucas and Fletch as leaders, and those two aren't hanging around for another 10 years. We're going to lose 5 genuine leaders, so replacing them with these guys is great stuff.

 

[Burzum]

I have always said we needed A Grade elite midfielders over KPP players RIG

Really?

Nick Suban or De Boer would suit us fine. I'd be temped to pick up Hurley if we have pick 4-5 though and worry about the midfielder with our 2nd and 3rd rounder.

Hartlett will be gone, and I'd rather Hurley over Ziebell or Sidebottom.

Do not want Sidebottom. If available we MUST get Hurley with pick 5, only one I'd consider at 5 would be Swift

I still want Hurley to be honest. The only midfielder I would want at 5 would be Swift as I do feel he could be the best out of the whole draft. He has Selwood written all over him. However I feel we will go Hurley and see if someone like Swift falls to our 2nd rounder OR perhaps try and get a pick 10-15 for Lovett and get Swift there.

No, I'd rather take Hurley and take a punt on a midfielder with our traded pick for Lovett or our 2nd rounder. Midfielders in this draft (apart from Rich) are all fairly similar from picks 4-30 really. A bloke like Tom Swift with our 2nd pick is perfect. Hurley is perfect for us, will help Ryder out a lot. Midfielders are found all around the draft, KPP backs are not (do not rate Lisle at all to be honest). We need to fix our spine up before we fix our midfielders. We still have Houli, Stanton, Watson,etc as mids so it is not as if we need a midfielder right now. If we can't get Daniel Rich, I want Hurley. The ONLY other one I'd consider would be Vickery but I doubt he will last past Port's pick.

I could go on and on...

 

[Ben the Gooner]

If I may, Spikey,

 

[loopy_cam]

Really?


I could go on and on...

That's at least the third time that quotes have been used to prove a point against bombersno1. Will it be the last?

Somehow, I don't think so.

 

[Spikey]

Epic pwn

 

[Colin D'Cops]

And RIG goes bang!

 

[AndyLesPaul]

Really?











I could go on and on...

LOL.

great read.
kudos for putting it all together . lolol