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Grima Officially Delisted

With the end of the trade week complete, can Geelong still promote Todd Grima by cutting loose some dead wood on the list? I think that there is room for Grima if the Cats could cut someone like The Natural, for example, who I believe is never going to make it at AFL level.
Is a senario like this possible or is Grima done and dusted at Geelong?
 

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Re: Is it the end for Grima at the Cats?

With the end of the trade week complete, can Geelong still promote Todd Grima by cutting loose some dead wood on the list? I think that there is room for Grima if the Cats could cut someone like The Natural, for example, who I believe is never going to make it at AFL level.
Is a senario like this possible or is Grima done and dusted at Geelong?
Geelong will cut Spencer but doesn't look Grima will get a go.
 

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U never know, Geelong might pick him up in the Draft.....
When do the delistings are anounced??
 

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I think rookie promotions need to be finalised by Oct 31.

The club has already agreed to promote Lonergan and Davenport, so would be a big call to promote Grima as well. We would have to delist three more players to do it. I think he's in trouble.

And if we don't promote him, we sure as hell won't then draft him.
 
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Once delistings have taken place Geelong will have a specific criteria for their remaining picks...as they usually do. That criteria may or may not be met. Given the less certain and unknown quantities of this particular draft however I believe Grima will be in the mix alot longer than people suspect.

He still might get elevated there's over 2 weeks to go.
 

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Re: Is it the end for Grima at the Cats?

we need to keep Spencer as a backup ruckman.West will not be able to ruck on his own,he is a bit too light yet,hoping to mucle up a bit this season.

If Spencer does not undergo the great circumcision I will be most surprised.

No! I will be damn right furious if we miss out on Grima (a player with good potential) because the list is cluttered with players who will never cut the mustard at AFL level.
 

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we need to keep Spencer as a backup ruckman.West will not be able to ruck on his own,he is a bit too light yet,hoping to mucle up a bit this season.
Official GFC stats listed West at 102kg this season. King was listed at 105kg. Blake at 100kg. Ottens, our heaviest player, was listed at 108kg. Are you trying to tell me that West is too light to ruck against King or Ottens? Keep in mind that aside from Sandilands, most ruckmen fall between these numbers.
 
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From my (ignorant) point of view, the club would be crazy NOT to promote Grima and give him two years on the senior list.

Sure he's raw and inconsistent, but he has room for improvement and those two years could give him that time.

Given Mooney might only have a few more years left in his prime, a future forward line consisting of KPPs Hawkins, NAblett and Grima could be a great one for the GFC for years to come.

But then again what would I know. If the powers that be at the club don't promote him then they obviously know or see something that we here on bigfooty don't.
 

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anyway, to re-rail this thread: Grima has shown plenty in his time on the rookie list, but unfortunately he is competing with either Mooney/Hawkins as a KPF, against Johnson as a tall crumbing forward, against mackie and milburn as a mobile half back and even Enright. I'd like to see him get a gig, but it would be fairer on him to look for another home. It seems that with the trading of Playfair and Gardiner (and not trading for players), we're not interested in keeping VFL depth, but rather to develop more kids.
 
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anyway, to re-rail this thread: Grima has shown plenty in his time on the rookie list, but unfortunately he is competing with either Mooney/Hawkins as a KPF, against Johnson as a tall crumbing forward, against mackie and milburn as a mobile half back and even Enright. I'd like to see him get a gig, but it would be fairer on him to look for another home. It seems that with the trading of Playfair and Gardiner (and not trading for players), we're not interested in keeping VFL depth, but rather to develop more kids.
Well if he was to be promoted, he might only be an injury or two away from getting a shot. Another reason to elevate him.
 

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Surely we'll promote him. He came 2nd in the VFL goalkicking, didn't he? He's got great potential. He plays like Mooney - a posessed CHF that crashes through packs, takes strong marks and kicks bags of goals. Why draft another unknown youngster?

The only reason I can think they haven't elevated him yet, is that he may have asked to be delisted.

The ideal situation would be to delist Owen and place him on the rookie list and elevate Grima. But it is worrying that nothing has been done yet, I don't want to lose this guy.
 
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Surely we'll promote him. He came 2nd in the VFL goalkicking, didn't he? He's got great potential. He plays like Mooney - a posessed CHF that crashes through packs, takes strong marks and kicks bags of goals. Why draft another unknown youngster?

The only reason I can think they haven't elevated him yet, is that he may have asked to be delisted.

The ideal situation would be to delist Owen and place him on the rookie list and elevate Grima. But it is worrying that nothing has been done yet, I don't want to lose this guy.
I agree with you completely. If he has to bide his time then any improvement or maturity that comes with him waiting for his chance can only be good for him in the long term.
 

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Maybe Grima is just out of luck.
Although tried down back , I dont think ever looked as home down there as a kid like Thompson. Nothing wrong with that , he is a forward and fine one. Its just I'm not sure our list need fits what he can offer right now

With Nablett and TH , we have forward talls that should be able to play for years yet and they probably will only ever be forwards. Lonergan , for a long time I thought was a waste of space has shown enough to think he will be a flexable tall capable of covering forward and back. Sure Mooney will go sooner than anyone else but he is only 28 , as a power forward he could still play for another 4 years.

The fact is one can not hold players on your list for very long without them being serious best22 options. Even if we listed him , do we really think he will be able to break into our side in the next two years? If not , we would probably only grooming a kid for another side to take with a Steven King useless Pick. It would also mean we wouldn't be starting again with a fresh kid that may be ready for that Mooney position in 4 years time.

He is stiff and one would thought a club lacking young forwards would jump at him , especially if he is still there late. He has probably shown more than Gardiner yet the strength of our list means he will struggle fro the same chance.
 

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Maybe Grima is just out of luck.
Although tried down back , I dont think ever looked as home down there as a kid like Thompson. Nothing wrong with that , he is a forward and fine one. Its just I'm not sure our list need fits what he can offer right now

With Nablett and TH , we have forward talls that should be able to play for years yet and they probably will only ever be forwards. Lonergan , for a long time I thought was a waste of space has shown enough to think he will be a flexable tall capable of covering forward and back. Sure Mooney will go sooner than anyone else but he is only 28 , as a power forward he could still play for another 4 years.

The fact is one can not hold players on your list for very long without them being serious best22 options. Even if we listed him , do we really think he will be able to break into our side in the next two years? If not , we would probably only grooming a kid for another side to take with a Steven King useless Pick. It would also mean we wouldn't be starting again with a fresh kid that may be ready for that Mooney position in 4 years time.

He is stiff and one would thought a club lacking young forwards would jump at him , especially if he is still there late. He has probably shown more than Gardiner yet the strength of our list means he will struggle fro the same chance.
Good summary of the position the club and the kid himself find themselves in.Not big enough to try to turn into a KPB and not quick enough for a flank.
I think the club will be trying to bolster that area as well as Ruckman.
 
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From memory, the club said it was a toss-up between picking him or Owen 2 years ago. So I can't see why the club wouldn't rectify their decision by putting Owen to the rookie list and Grima to the senior one.
 
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Say we delist Owen, Spencer and Sam Hunt.

We've then got 7 spots on our list (with H, King, Gardiner and Callan gone too).

We're promoting Lonergan and Davenport which leaves 5.

Our last pick is Donohue, so that's our 5th pick - 62.

That makes it virtually a choice between Grima and our second last pick - our 4th pick - 50.

Wells et al will make the call on whether we are likely to get something better than Grima with pick 50.

I have my doubts on whether 50 is likely to be better than Grima, but I put my full faith in Wells and the team.
 

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Say we delist Owen, Spencer and Sam Hunt.

We've then got 7 spots on our list (with H, King, Gardiner and Callan gone too).

We're promoting Lonergan and Davenport which leaves 5.

Our last pick is Donohue, so that's our 5th pick - 62.

That makes it virtually a choice between Grima and our second last pick - our 4th pick - 50.

Wells et al will make the call on whether we are likely to get something better than Grima with pick 50.

I have my doubts on whether 50 is likely to be better than Grima, but I put my full faith in Wells and the team.
Thats excatly right, Dont worry at all, his got a GOOD chance of getting picked up with us in the draft..:thumbsu:
 

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But then again what would I know. If the powers that be at the club don't promote him then they obviously know or see something that we here on bigfooty don't.
Good point, they've not really made a single mistake to date, I have faith that they'll make the right call here.
 

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You guys keeping mentioning youngster...

Grima is 20. Hardly and old fella. Say Mooney has 4 years in him, Grima would be a ripe age of 24. Hardly ancient.

Lonergan is 23. Davenport is 22

I would hate to have options as a GFC fan of players of players who could play tough and mean as both a KPP and a tall forward like Grima.

Get rid of the natural and promote Grima. For the love of the Gods!
 
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