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Blazers threw that lead away, poor execution at the offensive end
 
Portland do this far too often. They didn't score for the last 4 and a half minutes of that last qtr:thumbsdown:
 

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Given Aldridge carried us in the first half, and has 29 and 14 he should have been an all star

Very disappointing we didnt win this game, was lost in the last 2 minutes of regulation when we bricked open 3s and couldnt react to the lakers doubling Aldridge
 
Westy Bogan said:
Hey man we need a SG and Matthews would be in the top 15 SG in the NBA and he is still young.

15 points a night is all we need from a SG.

I would love a top 10 SG but no chance.

BTW, he is playing very well against Kobe tonight. 20 Points so far.
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The thing is, I don't think Matthews would get enough shots with Rose, Boozer and Deng there to average 15 a game for the Bulls, and he doesn't do enough in other areas to provide value beyond that. Unless the existing players significantly alter their game to accomodate him (which would disrupt the entire team), I don't think he'd have the same value/effectiveness for Chicago as he'd have for Portland. You'll end up paying over the odds to get him due to his form this season, and he won't put you over the top for a championship this season, so it's not worth it IMO.

If it weren't for the fact that he'd be shot dead within five minutes of landing in Chicago, I'd say someone like Tony Allen would be a perfect fit for the Bulls. Doesn't require plays run for him to score occasionally, and can actually lock down a man on the wing. That being said, I still think Ronnie Brewer can fill that role, if the Bulls were willing to start him. Brewer this season:
  • Second only to Glen Davis for Defensive Win Shares among non-starters this season, and among league leaders for DWS Per 48
  • Equal first in the league (with Tony Allen) for Defensive Rating among all guards
  • Fourth in the league for steals per minute
  • Leads the league in steal-to-turnover ratio
  • Leads the league in steal-to-foul ratio
 
Damon_3388 said:
The thing is, I don't think Matthews would get enough shots with Rose, Boozer and Deng there to average 15 a game for the Bulls, and he doesn't do enough in other areas to provide value beyond that. Unless the existing players significantly alter their game to accomodate him (which would disrupt the entire team), I don't think he'd have the same value/effectiveness for Chicago as he'd have for Portland. You'll end up paying over the odds to get him due to his form this season, and he won't put you over the top for a championship this season, so it's not worth it IMO.
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lol... what other areas? Are you pretty much saying Matthews is just a spot up shooter? Fair to say for someone like JJones, but I don't think you've seen a lot of Matthews play this year, stats man..
 
smashh said:
lol... what other areas? Are you pretty much saying Matthews is just a spot up shooter? Fair to say for someone like JJones, but I don't think you've seen a lot of Matthews play this year, stats man..
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With the amount of ball that Rose, Boozer and Deng demand, he'd wouldn't get to be much more than a spot-up shooter/occasional scorer for the Bulls. Even as it is, Corey Maggette has a higher assist rate (assists per minute and assist %) than Matthews, and he's one of the biggest "black holes" in the league, so it's not like Matthews is regularly creating for his teammates at the moment either. He might get his points in different ways, and get to the line occasionally, but he doesn't provide much more than decent offense and reasonable defense, and isn't worth disrupting the Bulls' set-up to get or integrate into the system.
 

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Damon_3388 said:
The thing is, I don't think Matthews would get enough shots with Rose, Boozer and Deng there to average 15 a game for the Bulls, and he doesn't do enough in other areas to provide value beyond that. Unless the existing players significantly alter their game to accomodate him (which would disrupt the entire team), I don't think he'd have the same value/effectiveness for Chicago as he'd have for Portland. You'll end up paying over the odds to get him due to his form this season, and he won't put you over the top for a championship this season, so it's not worth it IMO.

If it weren't for the fact that he'd be shot dead within five minutes of landing in Chicago, I'd say someone like Tony Allen would be a perfect fit for the Bulls. Doesn't require plays run for him to score occasionally, and can actually lock down a man on the wing. That being said, I still think Ronnie Brewer can fill that role, if the Bulls were willing to start him. Brewer this season:
  • Second only to Glen Davis for Defensive Win Shares among non-starters this season
  • Equal first in the league (with Tony Allen) for Defensive Rating among all guards
  • Fourth in the league for steals per minute
  • Leads the league in steal-to-turnover ratio
  • Leads the league in steal-to-foul ratio
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Maybe we good direct Allens hitman onto Bogans so Brewer could start:D
 
Damon_3388 said:
The thing is, I don't think Matthews would get enough shots with Rose, Boozer and Deng there to average 15 a game for the Bulls, and he doesn't do enough in other areas to provide value beyond that. Unless the existing players significantly alter their game to accomodate him (which would disrupt the entire team), I don't think he'd have the same value/effectiveness for Chicago as he'd have for Portland. You'll end up paying over the odds to get him due to his form this season, and he won't put you over the top for a championship this season, so it's not worth it IMO.

If it weren't for the fact that he'd be shot dead within five minutes of landing in Chicago, I'd say someone like Tony Allen would be a perfect fit for the Bulls. Doesn't require plays run for him to score occasionally, and can actually lock down a man on the wing. That being said, I still think Ronnie Brewer can fill that role, if the Bulls were willing to start him. Brewer this season:
  • Second only to Glen Davis for Defensive Win Shares among non-starters this season, and among league leaders for DWS Per 48
  • Equal first in the league (with Tony Allen) for Defensive Rating among all guards
  • Fourth in the league for steals per minute
  • Leads the league in steal-to-turnover ratio
  • Leads the league in steal-to-foul ratio
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stick your stats up your ass seriously.

everyone can see that Mathews is a ****ing gun and would excel at the Bulls no doubt about that.

Joel Bowden used to take 20 marks and have 40 kicks. He still wasn't the best player on the ground.
 
Hey look, New Orleans won.

Anyhoo, reading some post-game stuff from today, saw how Brooks said he liked how his team stepped up after the Collison foul.

After that point it was a 12-2 Spurs run till half-time...how can a coach be happy with the response if that's the score from it?
 
ROSEMVP said:
Bloody Boozer. Utah please give take him back and give us millsap. Rose is f'n beast. We must get MAYO.
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Whats with all the Boozer hate? He is exactly what we knew we were getting, he has his flaws (defence) but he is our first legitimate inside scorer for years (since Curry for a year? Brand?)
 
Still another blockbuster on the cards!

Zaza Pachulia sat out tonight. Who is gonna become an instant contender?
 

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Rough_Edges said:
everyone can see that Mathews is a ****ing gun and would excel at the Bulls no doubt about that.
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He's not a "****ing gun" at all. He's a decent scorer, that's it.

Matthews is averaging 16 points per game (plus 3 rebounds and 2 assists) shooting .444% from the field and .396% from downtown as the clear second option in a mediocre offense. Morris Peterson once averaged 16, 4 and 2 shooting similar percentages as Matthews (2005-06 season), and look where he is now. Given less of the ball (as he would be in the Bulls' line-up, where he'd be the fourth option at best), he wouldn't be nearly as effective, and doesn't provide enough away from his scoring to be worth the fuss the Bulls would have to go to in order to acquire him/integrate him in a way that accentuate his strengths (which would detract from their existing set-up).
 
Damon_3388 said:
He's not a "****ing gun" at all. He's a decent scorer, that's it.

Matthews is averaging 16 points per game (plus 3 rebounds and 2 assists) shooting .444% from the field and .396% from downtown as the clear second option in a mediocre offense. Morris Peterson once averaged 16, 4 and 2 shooting similar percentages as Matthews (2005-06 season), and look where he is now. Given less of the ball (as he would be in the Bulls' line-up, where he'd be the fourth option at best), he wouldn't be nearly as effective, and doesn't provide enough away from his scoring to be worth the fuss the Bulls would have to go to in order to acquire him/integrate him in a way that accentuate his strengths (which would detract from their existing set-up).
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Damon do you agree Lawsome > Matthews?
 
Spriteftw3 said:
Damon do you agree Lawsome > Matthews?
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Yea, he's a bit better. Different sort of players though. Not sure if Lawson will ever see the minutes/starts in his career to break out of the 'sparkplug' role, so he may never really progress that much as a player from where he's at now.
 
Damon_3388 said:
Yea, he's a bit better. Different sort of players though. Not sure if Lawson will ever see the minutes/starts in his career to break out of the 'sparkplug' role, so he may never really progress that much as a player from where he's at now.
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Will be a starter from now on and had a good game to start new part of his career :thumbsu:
 
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