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His fanbois do a good job of waxing lyrical about Bron every chance they get, there's no need for someone who is neutral to add anything further to the endless stream of gushing comments about him.
Who? Where? When?

Especially when everybody around him (fellow players, owner, gm, coach, etc...) is used as a scapegoat whenever his teams fail to win championships. ;)
Yep, everybody on this board totally gave LeBron a pass for 2011.

That attitude really irks me because his teammates over his career have done their absolute best to play how it suits LeBron, selflessly sacrificing their games to please him.
What, like how Kyrie took the most shots in the 2017 Finals? That's some sacrifice right there.

If LeBron along with his fanbois owned more of his defeats instead of trying to pass the buck,
Who? Where? When?

as well as incessantly trying to shove him down everybodies throat as the GOAT,
Don't believe I've seen anybody do that on this board even once, so links please.

then you would seldom see me make any 'negative' comments about him.
Who would you make negative comments about instead?
 

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Cavs situation reminds me of Ross Lyon's (contending) teams--all in now, little concern for the future. Of course they fall off a cliff once stars decline/move on. It's not really right or wrong, it's simply competing to win now.
Except he won Cleveland a ring.

THIS THIS THIS

Gilbert has gifted LeBron everything and then some for the past 3 seasons. Gilbert's allowed LeBron, against his better judgement I'm sure, to act as the de facto coach and General Manager. Every of LeBron's wishes (within reason) has been his command. And now that all of it is unraveling they go back to blaming a person who's forked out the highest payroll (most of it on role players who just happen to be represented by his agent buddy Rich Paul *face palm*) in the NBA. Goodness me some people just like to have tongues firmly stuck up celebrities backsides , that kind of blind dumb adoration I'll never get.


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And it paid off, Cleveland last 3 seasons sold out every game, They made 3 playoff finals, against one of the greatest teams ever, Lebron won them a ring. What was cleveland when Lebron left? a 33 win team, Lebron back? lost in the finals on the back of losing their second and third best player.

Gilbert gifted Lebron everything he wanted? Yeah, He also brought them a championship as de-facto GM, Whats horrific is Griffin firing Gilbert days before the off-season, Multiple reports of them thinking of trading either Love/Kyrie for someone else cheaper to lower payroll. Whinge about salary cap tax, The cavs were a winning team and made the owner money, You talk about blind dumb adoration you'll never get, we wonder about blind hatred which confuses us
 

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"Sources around the league have indicated that Cousins has megalomaniacal tendencies: He grows jealous when teammates receive credit for team success, or he reacts negatively if a teammate makes a mistake. It’s hard for players to follow along when the leader doesn’t practice what he preaches. You don’t have to look hard to find the stories. On Monday’s episode of The Lowe Post podcast, Zach Lowe told Brian Windhorst, “DeMarcus Cousins ruined Nik Stauskas … or almost did. The stories about DeMarcus Cousins berating Nik Stauskas, threatening to fight Nik Stauskas on the plane to China when they were going there for the preseason, two years ago or whenever that was … he ruined Nik Stauskas.” The rumblings are the same from people in drastically different circles."

Cousins ruined Nik Stauskas hey...hmmm
 

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Is it possible that if the Cavs get the right piece in return that Kyrie leaving might actually improve them?

It has always been a strange partnership with Kyrie being the point guard albeit without the ball because LeBron is playing point forward. It makes for a very stagnant offence at times.
 

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Is it possible that if the Cavs get the right piece in return that Kyrie leaving might actually improve them?
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Not after he's asked for a trade, Honestly Kyrie for PG would of made them better. You have two elite two way wings who are excellent play-makers, can score guard and play through from sg-pf. Bring in a PG who can guard and hit the 3 and it's just as good as the Cav's with Kyrie.

Is it possible that if the Cavs get the right piece in return that Kyrie leaving might actually improve them?

It has always been a strange partnership with Kyrie being the point guard albeit without the ball because LeBron is playing point forward. It makes for a very stagnant offence at times.
Kyrie is not a great playmaker. He's the most dynamic and offensive point guard in the league and can score 40 a night and has some insane body control, finishing skills, but he lacks a lot of playmaking skills that Curry/Wall have. Not saying he's worse then them. Cav's lacked another good playmaker, The system is drive/dish for the 3
 

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Kyrie is not a great playmaker. He's the most dynamic and offensive point guard in the league and can score 40 a night and has some insane body control, finishing skills, but he lacks a lot of playmaking skills that Curry/Wall have. Not saying he's worse then them. Cav's lacked another good playmaker, The system is drive/dish for the 3
Except he is worse than both of them. If Lillard or Conley swapped with Irving and played alongside Lebron they'd look leagues better than him.
 

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Except he is worse than both of them. If Lillard or Conley swapped with Irving and played alongside Lebron they'd look leagues better than him.
Agree with Conley. I think Lillard needs the ball in his lands like Kyrie to have morr of an impact
 

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Not after he's asked for a trade, Honestly Kyrie for PG would of made them better. You have two elite two way wings who are excellent play-makers, can score guard and play through from sg-pf. Bring in a PG who can guard and hit the 3 and it's just as good as the Cav's with Kyrie.


Kyrie is not a great playmaker. He's the most dynamic and offensive point guard in the league and can score 40 a night and has some insane body control, finishing skills, but he lacks a lot of playmaking skills that Curry/Wall have. Not saying he's worse then them. Cav's lacked another good playmaker, The system is drive/dish for the 3
Paul George was the perfect fit. Although I am not sure who does the clutch work without Kyrie.

Clutch work is one of the few knocks on LeBron but it is a legitimate one IMO
 
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